The dog isn’t allowed to be around a toddler because he growls at her. I don’t get it. A family dog is supposed to get along with the whole family. Why are the parents concerned about why the dog “doesn’t like her”? What about the child’s safety?
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My parent's ignored that our 'family dog' growled at me often and would stare me down, chase me atop things, etc. Then one day, with no growling or warning, he attacked me and I ended up in the hospital. Don't play with this kinda stuff. And then the dog had to be put down. We were both failed.
Edit: Wow, I didn't expect this comment to blow up. To answer some questions. We raised the dog from a puppy, he was about 2 years old. I was 8. He was a German Shepard. I still love dogs and do not blame him for it or have any leftover trauma. He was very well trained, just disliked little kids. The injury was to the top and back of my head, healed up great. He was held to see if he had rabies then put down. We never had another aggressive dog.
Yeah, they had plenty of warning and just didn't react to it. We never had an aggressive dog again so it never came up again. But crazy they took that chance.
That's really a shame. Sometimes you can train the aggression towards children out of them. Sometimes you can't. It depends on the dog. But a good owner is always training their dog, especially if they're big enough to rip an arm off. You don't want to spoil big dogs and let them live freely as they please. If you want to do that with those little ankle biters, sure. But no one should even buy a dog like this unless they're prepared for extensive training. Even without kids.
I agree, the problem is he just didn't like little kids. I don't think he could be trained to, because he was raised right alongside us and a very trained dog. We owned a farm and all of our dogs were highly trained. We never stopped working with any dog we had. He had perfect recall, could round up animals, did all your basic tricks, stayed on property without a fense, walked leash well. This was a dog who could "do it all". Sometimes the dog just isn't a good fit and is beyond anything you can train.
I explained it in another comment, but I think the reason I had no warning is because he started to get in trouble for growling at me. Which was a bad dog training move on their part. But they taught him he would get in trouble for growling so he stopped warning me to get away. And I was a kid so I thought that met he was okay with me.
My kids’ grandmother on their dad’s side ended up with a large dog that was usually fine but snapped at my daughter unexpectedly. I told her that the dog cannot be around my kids and she tried explaining to me that he might have just became territorial because she was near his food. I was like lady I don’t give two goddamns why you think it happened but it’s your job to make 100% sure it never happens again. She took that as a challenge and after another close call the dog now wears a muzzle when my kids are over.
I knew a family that took in a pair of very large dogs that were given up because they had been abused, neglected, and were known to have behavioral problems. 10 yr old boy went to pet the dog while it was sleeping and the thing bit his face and nearly took his lip off, lots of stitches.
My cousin adopted an aggressive dog once, and worked hard to rehabilitate the dog. The dog was never aggressive with her and she lived alone. Progress was not linear. The dog was doing really well for a while then out of the blue bit my arm when my cousin opened the door when I was visiting. It was winter so the dog didn't do any damage, but after that, she put the dog up and quit trying to make it work with company.
It took me way too long to figure out why winter made a difference. Thankfully I finally crossed the finish line 😂.
It is so unfortunate that sometimes you get a dog that just can't cope with other people. Training that aggression out is so hard and requires multiple people to take a chance on a dog that may do long term damage to them.
I thankfully had the opposite situation while doing pest control. A German Shepard on my route absolutely tried to shred anyone that wasn't family. She was barely a year old, and had tried to get the gardeners, mail carriers, pretty much anyone. She got out while I was there knocking on the door. I didn't know she was aggressive.
I sat down because she seemed a bit scared and just didn't make eye contact. Held still and spoke in a soft, but excited voice indicating I was excited to meet the dog. Owner came whipping out of the house worried I was being assaulted, but by then I was petting the dog. Ever since then that dog had to come out and say hi or she would lose it following me around to every door and window whining.
I got damn lucky that day, but I had a good track record with most dogs on my route. It was the little ones that were the most problematic. Got attacked by 2 chihuahuas and a tiny little terrier. The terrier couldn't get past my boot. I just stuck my toes in the air and pivoted my foot on my heel. It was honestly hilarious.
On the flip side, we had a pure bred chow when growing up. Perfectly friendly unless you were being aggressive, then it matched that energy.
But Chows have very poor eyesight. We told all my friends to never sneak up behind him. It was an oft repeated rule. Even then we kept the dog separated from guests during parties to avoid stressing the dog out, and he kept near my parents (he was definitely a momma’s dog, rarely left her side) otherwise.
What did one ‘friend’ do at a party? Went into the (finished) basement and literally tip-toed behind the dog and grab it’s haunches yelling ‘BOO!’. My dog whirled around and bit him in the face. We were forced to put down our dog because of the threatened lawsuit, despite the stupidity of the kid.
We failed our dog because we couldn’t afford the lawsuit. The kid’s parents failed the kid because they let the kid be an absolute dumbass. (Side note, that kid became my bully throughout middle and high school, then shot himself 3 days before graduation because he was playing russian roulette)
Chows are great. I could never handle them just because of the amount of slobber but they are also very fierce dogs. People often mistake big and fluffy for mild manner. Were the parents also at the party?
Yeah, it would have been a very hard lawsuit for you to win either way. Even if the parents failed by allowing their son to be a menace, your parents would have been held responsible if the party was taking place at your house and the dog was not restricted somewhere (in a closed room) where guests couldn't aggro it. No court would blame the child for the "BOO" or the child's parents even if they were there.
The amount of people I've seen lose dog cases is insane. A friend is still paying super high premiums to this day because someone sued her home owners insurance after being bit in an almost similar situation to yours. And the person bit was an adult. It's never worth it to have a dog that responds with aggression around people you can't trust not trigger it knowingly or unknowingly, especially children. Children are stupid and do stupid things but it will still be your fault.
Parents were there. Kid snuck off into the closed basement to provoke the dog. Only reason we know exactly what happened was another adult saw it through the sliding glass door to the lower part of the back yard.
The dog did back off immediately after the bite as well, it was entirely reflexive, and we’d had no incidents before this for the 5 years we’d had him.
That is upsetting, the poor dog. I feel like you can do everything in your power to protect your pet and stuff still goes wrong. That is a wild series of events though.
I do think all parents really need to teach their kids not to antagonize dogs or animals in general. Animals will defend themselves if spooked or threatened.
One day, when he has consumed enough blood of the innocent, he'll form an unholy cocoon and emerge in his final form. No longer will he need blood to sustain him, he will consume their terror. The blood, will merely be for fun.
My neighbours had a dog like this in the early 2000's. They coudn't trust the dog around their toddler and lived in fear. One day they were throwing the ball and it went over the fence and into my yard where I was playing. They opened the gate and let the dog into my yard. It bit me to the bone and now I am disfigured for life. They put the dog to sleep but that won't fix my damaged tendons. If I could go back in time I would have some very, very ugly words for those dog owners. I wish them nothing but papercuts and stubbed toes till the end of their days.
ETA: this did not happen in the USA, there was no reason to sue. The dog was an Aussie cattle dog. I am angrier now than I was at the time now I'm an adult and I've been living with this shit for nearly 25 years. The injury makes it challenging for me to drive a car. I whinge about it on reddit because there's nothing else that can be done, and maybe hopefully someone will read my story and think twice about keeping dogs who have a bite history.
I know it’s too late but your family could’ve 100% sued them for that. they let their aggressive dog into your yard where you were and let you get attacked. they would’ve served time for that
Grew up in a time before everyone had cameras in their pockets, and having CCTV of your property wasn't the norm for anyone with a house worth less than 1mil.
The neighbor at my best friend's house had a pit that he just came home with one day, full grown dog that had 0 training or proper socialization. He'd let it out unattended in the fenced-in backyard, and if we were out in the back at the same time, it would alternate between just laying in the shade on his porch watching us with total fixation, or charging the fence to bark at us, at which point we'd quickly get back to the house.
One day we were on the swing set in the backyard when it went NUTS, charged off the porch like it had decided 'today is the day', and after chomping at the chainlink for a moment, starting climbing that motherfucker like a koopa. Neither of us had ever seen a dog climbing a chain link fence before, and we both - survival instincts of a sack of potatoes between us - froze on the swings in horror, as it shakily made progress paw over paw, snarling and growling the entire time. As it started to make its way over the top, my friend's dog - a husky - came bolting out to the yard, having thrown himself through the sliding screen door, and parkour'ed off a wood-splitting stump and pile of wood that was beside the fence on our side, and over into the other yard. Came barreling up and slammed into the pit like a missile, taking it to the ground. Terrifying dog sounds and ball of violence ensued as we ran into the house screaming for my friend's mom.
By the time she had gotten out there to see what was going on, it was over - the pit was dragging itself back to its porch, and the husky was waiting patiently by the fence. Wounded, bloodied, but wagging and very proud of himself.
The neighbor called the police. We gave our testimony. The husky had been protecting us. The pitbull had been trying to get to us, and had multiple months of being aggressive towards us to the point we usually went inside if we saw it because we felt unsafe in the yard with it around.
Didn't matter. There was no record of that. All there was a record of was their dog going over into another yard, and wounding a dog so bad it needed to be put down. Neighbor sued. Court ruled in his favor based on the evidence on record, which apparently didn't include the account of two six and seven year old kids. We hadn't actually been injured, after all, so we weren't important to consider. Friend's mom had the option of re-homing, or euthanizing her dog - but he couldn't live there anymore, and if she didn't get rid of him by a certain date, it was going to be an outrageous fine paid to the neighbor. Like... half a year of mortgage payments sort of cost, for a single mom with two boys.
She tapped her network and was able to find someone who would adopt him short notice, but it was on the other side of the state, and visits just wouldn't be possible. We never saw him again.
Lesson learned for the rest of my life - if you have an aggressive dog in the area, report it. Record it. Make a record. Document everything, dates, times, exactly what happened. Because if worse comes to worst and you end up having to do something 'practical' about that aggressive dog in a life-or-death situation, and you got there before life-changing damage was done, the authorities aren't going to care at all about anything other than what the documentation says happened. If all the documentation that exists is "there is a dead dog, and you were involved", if everyone is 'okay', the owner has a better chance than you might think of suing YOU for damages.
That is infuriating. The neighbors must have known what kind of temperament their pitbull had and seen the warning signs firsthand in their own home. What total assholes. I hope that husky knew he was a good boy and lived a good life 💔
I’m so sorry that happened to you. Everything about that situation is terrible and preventable from their end. Like why the fuck would they let the dog in your yard?!
Along with papercuts and stubbed toes I hope their floor is constantly littered with legos and 4-sided dice and they can’t wear socks.
Seriously though- I’m appalled. I’m so sorry and wish you the best.
I was 3 too, Christmas eve and bitten on the cheek by a Rottweiler. My dad wouldn't let me sit in the cab because of the blood. I had to sit in the truck bed with my mom on the way to get stitches. One of my earliest memories.
My dog is not deaf, but also does nothing. If he does something, it is leave the room. And I get it. I don't want to sit in the same room as screaming children and my ears aren't half as good as his.
Well my cats are easily scared. They don’t do it when they can see the child crying or screaming. In that case they will approach the kid and try to calm them down (they do it to adults too). Only when the child is outside and screams, they get uneasy and typically have an alerted behavior. They’re tiny and I absolutely get why they get scared at noise they can’t understand.
Whenever I did catch them growling or hissing, I could easily interfere and they never bite or scratch humans. I can literally pick them up and they bury their faces in my sweater and hiss / growl quietly haha. It’s actually adorable because they’re literally tiny creatures fearing everything lol
I have one of the rare cats that does get aggressive when he hears high-pitched shrieking. His previous owners had a baby and he was returned to the shelter for that reason.
And you know what? That was a damn good reason lol. I’m sure they loved him but they made the best decision for their (human) baby. And they did this for a pet with far less destruction potential than the one in this video.
I think we as a society have become too lenient with certain behaviors over the past few decades, especially with dogs. Some people will watch this video and their takeaway will be that dogs with child aggression can be rehabilitated with the correct support. That’s not a risk I’d ever be willing to take.
My older sister had to rehome one of her dogs because her 3rd son had severe allergies. The way people would act like she did something WRONG was infuriating. She searched for a good home for that dog for MONTHS. She vetted the couple who eventually took the dog. The dog got to live with a retired couple who had a quiet life, and had a very happy life until she passed of old age. But the way some people went on, you'd think she dropped her off on the side of the highway because she just got sick of it.
When I was a toddler, I lived in a home that had a dog that couldn't be in the same room as me for long, and never unsupervised. I was 3 when I squealed in excitement because my brother was getting back from school and that dog mauled me for it.
I have extensive scarring, and an enduring anxiety around dogs. A plastic surgeon had to put my face and scalp back together, and he was surprised seven years later when he saw I healed well enough that my face looked normal. (It is slightly crooked in the upper right side around my eye, but I'll take a weird eyebrow that is half paralyzed over the risk of losing said eye.) On top of that, years later I met the animal control officer who had to retrieve the dog for euthanasia and testing for rabies(he thankfully didn't have it), and she remembered the site of the attack because she had never seen that much blood from one where the person survived, let alone a 3 year old.
They need to either rehome the dog in the vid with someone who fully understands the risks, or put it down. All it will take is a moment of carelessness for that kid to be dead or severely traumatized.
God, I’m so sorry that happened to you. My response to this post was something along the lines of “I’ve heard too many stories of dogs eating children’s faces off, hell no.”
Was not expecting to see one near the top comments. Fuck.
I'm alright nowadays, enough that I don't judge dogs too harshly based on breed; I stay aware of the purpose of each breed, and learned a lot about dog behavior and body language so I can make accurate threat assessments.
It may have been a rottweiler that got me, but the other rottweiler in the house did her best to fight him off, she was just smaller and older so she couldn't overpower him. His name was Bruiser, and her Sugar; Sugar was very protective of me for the rest of her life, and between her a fantastic rottie by the name of Ms. Wiggles, I learned that it's the dog, not the breed that is violent.
Honestly, it boggles my mind when people don't consider the purpose of each breed. Bulldogs were bred for bull baiting, yorkies for hunting rats, dachaunds for hunting badgers in their dens, those kinds of things. Hell, golden retrievers are hunting dogs. It's not a surprise when some dogs develop aggression issues because they aren't trained with their original purposes in mind, even if it's just to mitigate unwanted behavior. Of course a dog that's hard-wired and bred for certain things is going to need consistent and full training, they need to learn self-control and proper socialization.
Even pitbulls need careful socialization and training to be the best they can, both with all variety of people and pets. They aren't a beginner dog; it's the novices that think they're all cuddly babies as a baseline and bad people who encourage aggression and poor socialization that give the breed a bad rap.
It is too horrible imagining a three year old suffering this attack and aftermath. I am so sorry. And fantastic to hear that your surgeon was able to help you so effectively. I wonder if anyone could do a documentary/informational video where people like you share their stories that could be used to educate parents to be more realistic about their dangerous dogs.
I believe that all dog owners should have in-depth knowledge of their dog's breed purpose and how to train them fully with that in mind. It would save people a lot of heartache and pain, as well as cut back on the number of 'vicious' small dogs.
No, your Yorkie is not supposed to be an untrained, yappy mess. They're bred for hunting rats with tenacity, and require plenty of exercise and training. Of course golden doodles are high strung and prone to social issues, they're a mix of two hunting breeds with extreme demand for exercise and training to handle it(I won't get into the semantics of how no ethical breeder would sell a pure, well-bred poodle or golden to make high-priced mutts, that's a whole secondary issue of health and behavior defects). Bulldogs are assumed to be family dogs when the core purpose they were bred for was bull baiting, where they'd bite onto a bull's nose and hold on until it drowned in it's own blood. That's why their faces are like that, so the blood would run off their snout without drowning them, too.
Any dog can be dangerous without proper understanding of their breed behavior and socialization, unfortunately. I still remember hearing almost a decade ago about a woman who was mauled to death by dachaunds(bred for hunting badgers in their dens), which many people think are just sweet lap dogs.
I have a friend that just had to rehome their large dog because it started acting aggressive towards their new baby and my toddler. They have other school age children that he's good with but for whatever reason he doesn't like babies and toddlers. They were upset about rehoming him but found a good home for him. It just wasn't worth risking the children's safety.
Children are unpredictable. That's why. Their energy is all over the place, scattered, loud. There's no telling what they'll do. The smaller they are, the worse it is.
My dog is reactive (though less and less so, through lots of work) and triggered by things that are moving fast, sudden, and are shaped in a way she doesn't understand (people on skeelers, tractors, that stuff). These things scare her, so she wants them away from her: hence the barking and jumping. If I'd let her off leash, she'd try to chase it away. And while I don't think she'd do anything but bark, I don't want to traumatize anyone. A scared dog is an unpredictable dog.
Little kids on little bikes? I avoid them like the plague. She's never in a room with kids. She is never close to little kids. This may not solve the problem (I hope we can find a safe way to train, but I'd need a professional to help) but it keeps everyone safe.
I had to do something similar and felt God awful. But my dog was over 100 lbs and highly reactive to infants and toddlers. Perfect with school age children. A trainer told us they could work it out with him and quoted us a ton of time and money while we were trying to plan for a newborn. It just wasn't financially feasible and even then, neither me nor my spouse felt safe having him around a newborn if he decided to snap. New family has no kids and tons of livestock that he loves chasing around, so it all worked out. But people will make you feel like an absolute asshole for doing the best you can for you and your pets.
You made the right choice, for you and your dog. This stuff is really hard, in part because there's instincts involved, and (as the owner of a similar dog) I firmly believe that when a dog has that inclination, 100% success is never guaranteed.
A dog that size and weight could easily tear that flimsy door down if it got it in it's mind. These are dogs that can tear cars to pieces trying to get at rats.
We had a German shepherd who was such a cool buddy, and when my daughter was born he started acting sketchy and would growl at her if she made noises, so we didn't have him after that... The people who he went to had older kids and he got along and had a great life with them. Definitely not even worth stressing a dog out or risking a person being hurt, if a dog is acting like that around the house, it is upset and may take that out in anyone.
You make a really good point in that keeping a dog in a home where it's acting like this is just contributing to the dog's stress unnecessarily. Finding a better suited home for the dog is THE best option for every person + animal involved.
Look. I hate the idea of euthanasia as much as anybody, and I would certainly try to find any avenue to avoid that. But at the end of the day you have to remember that this has always been the bargain between dogs and humans. For 30,000+ years of domestication. We keep the docile ones and the aggressive ones have to be destroyed. That’s always been the deal. It’s how we even have dogs to begin with.
This is such a huge issue in rescue. I spent 6 months as the animal care manager at a dog rescue and we had to euthanize a dog for behavior. Our on staff behaviorists and outside behavior consultants spent MONTHS trying to get this dog safe to adopt out, but there was no amount of training that would make this dog safe. When the decision was made, 70% of our staff quit in protest. This was not a “oh this dog growled at someone once” and was euthanized. There were months of work invested and of course no one wanted to see this dog die, but what do you do with a dog that is aggressive towards most people, all men, children, and all other animals? People love to think “there’s a home for every dog” but the reality is there are very few people willing to take an aggressive dog and it’s a HUGE liability for a rescue to risk their reputation if the dog does attack someone. We would much rather make room in our facility for a dog that can actually be saved than indefinitely hold a dog that is a danger to all our staff and volunteers. BE is always a last resort but it does have its place, I wish more people in rescue understood that.
They all had other animals or other people in their homes, so they couldn’t. But they did expect the rescue to keep investing time and money into the dog waiting for some miracle adopter.
Also in a lot of cases behavioral euthanasia is kindest to the dog too! Like what kind of quality of life does a dog have when it can’t be outside the home at all and is so fearful/anxious it has to turn to aggression?
My very first dog unfortunately was like this. I was a kid, he was my baby but he was so aggressive and honestly? I don’t think he ever had fun his entire life. Every situation, every human, every other dog besides me made him tense and snarling. We tried EVERYTHING. Eventually after he bit my cousin we had to have him BE’d. My grandma put it best “He’s not a happy dog. He doesn’t enjoy life.”
Compared to my current dog who loves Everyone and wants to be best friends with every dog he meets and I just know every day is a good day for him. I
We had to make a client (in family-carehome-facility) to give up his dog (Rottweiler) after it attacked both of his children (aged 12 and 2), attacked one of our workers and ran off to bite a feral cat to death. We finally managed client to give up the dog so animal shelter took it but when they tried to unload the dog from a car, it attempted to attack everyone. In the end, the animal shelter put it down because they couldn't safely get the dog out of that car.
Dog owner was devastated as he believed that the dog was going to have a new permanent home. But like for real... there was no home that beast could've entered.
I used to work as a vet assistant and there’s a large, well respected rescue that never behaviorally check their dogs and have fought back against any time any behaviorist or vet recommended euthanasia due to behavior. I will never adopt from this rescue and have outright told family not to when they look for a dog because of the amount of horrific situations this rescue has put people and dogs in.
They had a dog that showed up to my work every 3-4 months because it was incredibly aggressive doodle they couldn’t go near as he actively went for everyone. They would overdose on sedatives to shave and then throw at us to save. It would’ve been a kindness to euthanize. He ended up dying after one of these sedated shaves.
Then there was an aussie mix they adopted that snapped without warning or an indication. Dog was doing it constantly and the owners were trying to work with us cause they felt awful for her. Couple of days before their appointment with the behaviorist, she attacked a random person walking past on a walk and was ordered by the county immediately to euthanize because of the extent of the damage. Police that showed up to confirm the dog was euthanized told us it was going to be a long time before the victim would be able to walk again as the dog apparently went for their knees.
Then we had a client with a bully breed that was showing increasing levels of aggression and ultimately diagnosed with rage syndrome. She adopted from the rescue when he was as a puppy, so she reached out to them to warn them since he came from a litter. They threatened legal action when she said she was going to proceed with euthanasia and they used their contract to force her to return the dog as she didn’t want to be stuck in court. Then they placed the dog up for adoption with a small sentence on how he can’t go to a house with children, a dog that was clearly dangerous.
People are quick to judge on behavior euthanasia, but there are plenty of times where it’s appropriate. This is not even just for safety, but the dog as well because aggression is not a sign of a happy dog. I always get so frustrated went people are shitty cause they thing behavioral euthanasias shouldn’t be a thing.
I'm a dog trainer. I wouldn't touch that case with any length of barge pole. The owners are dumb enough to not immediately take action. What's the chances they're dumb enough to misinterpret an instruction I've given and let the dog in at the wrong time when I'm not around?
I won't even work with toy breeds doing stuff like this with kids around.
In my opinion there absolutely is a line, yeah. Also, you never quite get the full story. Whether that's simply because the owners don't see certain behaviours as significant or they mislead you so you aren't "scared off".
The former is understandable as if everyone intuitively understood each and every behaviour a dog did and why, we wouldn't need dog trainers. The latter is dangerous and sometimes indicitive of multiple canine professionals working with them in the past for good or ill.
I am a plumber with employees and we go into customers houses everyday. We get a lot of customers that say “don’t worry he is friendly” or “she doesn’t bite” “they just want to say hello”. I have been bitten by at least 6 dogs that just want to say hello. I have been bitten and the homeowner does nothing about it. Doesn’t even put the animal up.
I have two dogs and I am 95% sure they won’t bite someone but I treat them like I am 95% sure they will.
I am willing to take a risk with a dog but I will not ask my employees to. Please pet owners put your dogs away when you have a technician at your home. If they want to meet your dog they will ask.
Straight to the humane society. That dog needs a child free home that it never leaves. I love animals, spent a decade professionally caring for them but a child's life is worth so much more.
We’ve just had a baby killed by a dog in NZ, so this is timely.
I love my pets (dogs and cats), but I’d be so worried with a baby/toddler around a pet behaving this way; also it can’t be good for the dog to be in this stressful state all the time either right? Not fair to anyone and feels like a preventable tragedy waiting to happen.
I’m also in NZ and was so angry and saddened when I heard that report. But I’m not actually surprised. There’s no reason for child mauling and deaths to be happening. It’s willful ignorance and totally preventable. The dog attack statistics are out of control here right now due to lax policies and poor enforcement. Ultimately it’s owners who are the problem, mostly because they can’t see that some dogs actually don’t have a place in society.
It’s obviously due to social media, and I’m SO sick of it. Apparently it’s never the dog’s fault, all dogs are “innocent”, and they should have the same rights as humans. There is never any acknowledgment that some animals just don’t need to exist. They don’t enjoy their lives, they are dangerous to anything that breathes, and they are almost always owned by people who aren’t clever enough to recognise or manage any of this. I’m not saying we should send out death squads for people’s pets, but I really think we need to be cracking down a thousand times harder than we currently are. Yes, some dogs are dangerous because their owners have fucked up. But some of them are just born dangerous.
Watching this video above makes my skin crawl for the baby.
A couple of my neighbors didn't really get that "my dog is really friendly with me" doesn't translate to "my dog will be really friendly when i just let them wander the neighborhood" and several of them were really aggressive
Absolutely not to the humane society. People need to stop passing the buck on aggressive dogs. If this dog ended up at the humane center, it would be posted on an adoption page wearing a flower crown within a week.
There are too many good dogs being killed for space reasons and other lack of resources to keep this one. We dont need to save every dog. We dont need to find the perfect bubble for a dog like this. Euthanasia is not the worst thing that can happen to a dog.
There are too many undeserving dogs being put down specifically cause self centered pitbull owners fill no kill shelters with unadoptable dogs cause they don't want to nut up and accept the consequences of their actions.
Pits are also much more unlikely to be neutered and spayed than other dogs. Their owners love keeping them intact and breed the hell out of them which then fills our shelters. They then say adopt don’t shop when in reality a dog that is bought from a reputable breeder is much less likely to end up in a shelter. In the Netherlands most people purchase their dogs. They also have some of the lowest number of stray dogs and shelter dogs in the world.
I hate that it’s also a culture thing. Many things are a culture thing. Stupid things are instilled in your mind as a child to think what other losers think are “cool”. One of those being the pit bulls. Kids and teens are impressionable and even some dumb adults. They get influenced into thinking that’s the dog to have bc they’re so BaDaSS!!! It’s such an ignorant mentality and I cannot stand the type of people to hype up that breed. I know this family that has a couple of those dogs and some giant scooby doo type dogs around little kids. They want the dogs aggressive and muscular. Alr let’s see how that goes
giant scooby doo type dogs are okay sometimes. My sister-in-law had a great dane that watched the kids and stopped one from falling off the table once and they got two more after she died, the male ended up having mental issues and they got rid of him but he ran at one of the kids one day the female got infront of the kid and shielded it.
They need to go straight to euthanization. There are too many aggressive pitbulls in shelters that will never be adopted, taking up space that adoptable animals could be taking.
Case in point if someone like my friend for instance had a boston terrier living next door to two very determined and unsocialized rottweilers. They burst through the fence and tore that little pup to bits.
I worked in rescue for a few years and I just can’t anymore. If it was up to me, half the dogs would have been euthanized for aggression. The owner just hopes for unicorn adopters; no other animals, no kids, and a fenced in yard. It made me sick, I didn’t feel safe around some of the dogs and I can’t fathom allowing them out into society. The experience really opened my eyes on pit bulls. They should be illegal to own unfixed and they should be illegal to breed.
And just like you said, other breeds get adopted out so quickly! Why waste the space when deserving pups that aren’t a threat to society exist.
The fact this idiot person who owns the dog posted a video like that and asked people for their thoughts is so stupid. They shouldn’t even be a parent.
As ignorant as the parents hypothetically are in this scenario, asking questions is better than just carrying on like everything is normal. The parents are getting responses and that will give them a better chance at finding the help for this situation.
No other dog breed has fanatical cult like defenders like pit bulls do. They’re hideous terrible dogs who maul toddlers all the time but for some reason these people have hitched their wagon to this breed and will die on this hill no matter how many people are maimed and killed. I cant even walk around my neighborhood anymore because my neighbor has two pits unleashed just standing in his front yard at all times. It’s fucking psychopathic how pit owners love to terrorize people and would sacrifice their own children before they admit these dogs are not suitable for civilized society.
Pit bull owners are weird, I was walking along the street the other day and there was a guy coming towards me with a pit bull straining on his leash, when I crossed the street the guy looked at me and smirked. Why is a 6’4” guy getting a kick out of making a 5’5” woman nervous🤷♀️
Oh my god I have the same problem in my neighborhood! We are super vigilant whenever we walk by this one house to make sure their pits aren't off leash in their front yard but one day we were caught off guard and one of their pits charged us and my dog. It got a grip on my dog's face but I was able to make a shit ton of noise and sort of wedged myself between them before the pit could do any damage. I was fucking furious. My dog has been recovering from a $10,000 hip replacement and these shit heads almost took my dog and his new mobility from me. The bitch of an owner even had the audacity to tell me to "calm down, it's not that big of a deal" and that "he's never done this before". I called animal control and filed a bite report on them literally as soon as I got home. I went out and bought pepper spray, bear spray, and a noise maker and I still feel like I'm not prepared enough if it happens again.
Like I've been having nightmares of my dog getting attacked on a walk and I'm not able to do anything and he is injured to the point of death :( it's really fucked with my psyche because I felt so helpless in that moment. He's still activity restricted right now, he can't run, jump, or play and he doesn't have the strength to defend himself like that either. Everytime we go on a walk I'm so anxious and on extreme alert. I can't stand pitbulls or their shit head owners anymore. I really can't.
I’m sorry this happened to you, sadly know exactly how you feel. Neighbors pitbull finally got loose and attacked my husband and our dog. Pit went straight for my dogs face, wouldn’t let go, husband ended up on the ground between them. Luckily, the pit was hyper focused on our dog and didn’t try to bite hubby, giving me time to run out in my freaking pjs and chase him off. I’ll never forget the screams my poor boy made.
We’ve been stressed for months since it happened. The neighbors are pissed at us for calling the cops after they ignored the situation and just put their dog in the house and bailed. Just went to court last week and the judge was not having any of my neighbors BS. She tried arguing that he wasn’t a dangerous dog and that he didn’t actually bite hubby, his injuries were “just road rash”.
Man, if looks could kill. Judge just glared at the neighbor and asked her if hubs would have gotten the road rash if her dog wasn’t loose and attacking….no answer.
These people get dogs they can’t control, refuse to do anything like proper training, and cry that it’s unfair that their dog is punished for a “simple mistake” that leaves others maimed or dead.
I hope your boy makes a full recovery and you regain some sense of peace on your walks again.
Buying pepper spray isn't enough when you can take them to small claims court and make it too expensive for them to keep ignoring their responsibilities as dog owners.
It's almost cult-like, the obsession with defending these dogs. They can be deadly and it's simply not worth the risk. The pro-pit lobby has resulted in countless injuries and deaths from often well-meaning people who have been sadly misled and brainwashed.
They’re hideous terrible dogs who maul toddlers all the time but for some reason these people have hitched their wagon to this breed and will die on this hill no matter how many people are maimed and killed.
It's always the same "They're great dogs, so sweet and loyal", then you hear a story of them gleefully ripping a baby apart the next day. "Oh boy he never did this before, I don't understand what happened"
These people are idiots for keeping their child around that dog.
I used to do breed rescue with Rottweilers. I evaluated dogs that were in shelters to see if they could be saved.
One time we brought our kids, who were about 7-10(they stayed far, far away and dog was on a serious leash). We evaluated a big male Rottie and I watched the dog stare at the kids so intensely - I knew he would have bitten them.
Needless to say we passed on that dog, but that experience confirmed my belief that if a dog does not like kids, they essentially cannot be trusted. And no, there's no magical farm or owner where they won't be around kids. Pitties, Rotties and other large breeds can kill/damage children and small dogs - harsh but true.
As much as I love dogs, you are correct. We had a dog that hated my 6 month old son, and we gave him away. Didn’t abandon him, didn’t take him to the shelter, gave him to friend with no children. There is no reason for them to take a chance with their daughter’s life.
If they keep that dog I hope they go to prison for life if absolutely anything happens to that poor child. I can’t stand people that are more attached to their animals than to their own children’s wellbeing.
My roommate back in 2006 was a girl who had one arm. What happened? Oh, the neighbor's pit bull escaped the yard and chewed her arm off. She was 3 years old.
But yeah, I really hate the whole pit/bully scene that seems to flood that area. And this is outright heinous. That dog would be out of my house in 30 seconds. Nothings comes before the kids.
This reminds me of people who are like “let me smear peanut butter on my toddlers head so I can record the baby bear, licking it off!”
If you’re too stupid to raise your kids safely and you’re gonna fucking let Darwin get them ?! please don’t expose the rest of us to it … some of us actually give a fuck about your kids ! Yea more than you do … I mean…evidently?! tf?! And it just makes us feel collectively, helpless because what the fuck can we do?
If you’re too stupid, let me stress this… ifyou’re too stupid to raise children, please DON’T!
That girl is literally going to be dinner for princess if the owners aren't careful. That velvet hippo is aiming to decimate that little girl holy hell
I worked with rescue dogs and that family is putting their child in danger!!!! I pray they have found that dog a child free home. I had two dogs for over a decade that could not be anywhere near children. It takes a very responsible dog owner to own a dog like that. I understood their nature and knew I couldn't change it.
I just had a son and it was a cryptic pregnancy so I found out 3 days before he was born. I also have two cats and one is aggressive but I love her and have put up with it for her 4 years and tried to tame the behavior. She immediately left the house when my baby came home. Surrendering your pet is not wrong. The kid comes first.
Worked on an ambulance. Dog vs Child calls were always some of the worst. Kids ripped up and scarred for life, not to mention life long fear and ptsd around dogs. Family was always running around screaming that the dog never bit anyone etc. etc. Fact is that when a dog is the same size as a kid, they're usually looking at 'em eye to eye, which causes stress and anger for many breeds.
I will die on the hill that pit bulls should not be a house breed whatsoever. They’re literally bred for aggression. I don’t care how sweet or friendly they seem, all it takes is one accident for a life to be permanently altered.
I had to break up a dog fight a few years back. Pitbull attacked a bulldog. When the cops showed up he told me he responded to a call a few months prior to a pitbull that killed a 6 year old in my neighborhood.
Pitbulls should require a license and insurance. A walking thinking weapon
omg -- I personally collect these. I love it when people ask about their mean ass fish and then you look at the fish's face, his mugshot, and he looks just like a mean ass too. those brows. black eyes. that frown. this one is defo a bastard.
I've had large breed dogs for 15+ years, mostly pits. Zero hesitation to get rid of one of them if they show any signs of aggression towards people, especially children. I've only ever had one that we had to get rid of and it was a Rottweiler that had anxiety and fear based issues since it was a puppy. Eventually as an adult it turned to reclusive and aggressive behavior. I understand their hesitation, yes they're family, but at the end of the day they're animals capable of inflicting severe permanent damage and death. You have to respect that. You cannot take any chances, and that dog should be taken far away from that kid and probably any kids
Same here, I love my labrador/berner senn mix. If he ever attacked a human, it would be instant re-homing or euthanasia. It would break my heart, absolutely, but I don't see any other way.
When I was in high school I had a friend who's family member had a pit bull. He was staying with this family member, so when I would go over to hang out I'd see the dog roaming around while his baby cousin crawled around the house. I expressed concern about this and the cousin who owned the dog would just say "He knows better. He knows I'll fuck him up if he tries something." This did not ease my concern at-fucking-all. I called CPS anonymously because that felt like right thing to do. They didn't do shit about it.
One day the dog snapped, bit down on the toddlers head and would NOT. LET. GO. Eventually it did but there was a lot of damage done by the time they were able to pry it off of the baby.
The baby survived but had a looooooong stay in the hospital. I remember visiting her and she had all sorts of tubing coming out of her. Really sad shit.
They tied the dog up to a tree in the backyard, beat it to death and used the body for target practice. I stopped going over there after that.
I've never been able to tell this story before now. Insane shit.
Any dog that's clearly aggressive towards children should be put down. Even if you can find a childless home, why would you allow for that risk to exist in society.
I have 3 dogs (1 large, 1 medium, 1 small) that are the bestest boys and girl ever. They are so sweet and loving and gentle.
BUT!
There’s a guy on reddit who was attacked by his dog during a seizure and he’s had like 15 surgeries to fix his face. He often posts updates and such of his journey.
I also have seizures. And now it often crosses my mind how my dogs will react if they ever see me having one. Will they attack me? They’re animals, so that possibility is always there.
If any of them EVER acted this aggressive towards me or anyone, we would immediately have to rehome. It’s too dangerous.
Edit: to note, only 1 of the 3 has pit, and it’s less than 10% American pit bull terrier
wow you're doing great work. have you posted this to whatever epilepsy community reddit has? the dogs are way too common.
in the autism subreddit a doctor was talking about pitbulls causing the worst trauma injuries they see (other than house fires.) pitbulls eating kids scalps, mauling off a little boys scrotum/buttocks, adults limbs, biting off feet. I feel traumatized by the surgeons and never want to let my daughter near a pitbull again. I can't imagine the stuff they see, I knew how dangerous pits were but never imagined how graphic and messy it gets prior to them killing people.
I tend to agree. There are breeds for every purpose, and a powerful breed isn’t suited for these conditions unless someone who is experienced and capable to control the dog is there with you at all times.
Get any other dog breed. A golden would be at your side wanting to help if you had a seizure. Get a breed not made for fighting and boom problem solved
"can you work with a dog with a behavior issue toward children?"
No. No you can't. I'm sorry but WE don't even train ourselves to not openly despise a coworker. You think we can train dogs to not want to snack on a child like wild game?
Holy shit, the dog is ready to take out the small, rag doll-little girl. This is never going to get better. Probably a good thing to rehome the fella. ☹️😳
This parent is nuts! That dog woulda been gone! Even backing up to record like the two year old won’t mess with the door handle! Every single day I’m reminded that common sense isn’t that common
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