It turns out you cannot eat pure political rhetoric when the trade war bill comes due.
Nothing screams rugged, independent free-market capitalism quite like begging the government for a multibillion-dollar bailout because your own preferred trade policies vaporized your customer base.
You voted to burn down the global grain market and are now stunned to discover you actually have to live inside the ashes. Broad tariff regimes inevitably trigger direct retaliatory duties on domestic agricultural exports, converting thriving family operations into federally dependent welfare cases overnight. Handing out billions in taxpayer-funded stopgap relief does not recover structural export market share; it simply forces the public to subsidize avoidable self-inflicted losses while multi-generational farms fold under the debt.
"he fucked us the first term, but i had no idea that would be any indication whatsoever how he'd govern his second term! i'll still vote for him a fourth time, though! he's still figurin things out and i aint votin for no dumb o crat"
*He kind of fucked them the first term. It got bad, and he bailed them out--after allowing his shitty corporate goons to buy up a percentage of those farms (I remember he let something like 20 percent fail and be bought, but he bailed out the majority of farmers) These guys are ones who were likely bailed out before.
I just want to be clear--he is fucking them. These guys saw some of their neighbors lose everything, but they got bailed out, and they voted for him again. I find that worse in a lot of ways.
they really don't see the play they're being conned into do they?
I remember one lady talking about selling her farm b/c she was losing money on it. Mentioned "selling it to JD" and didn't seem to connect those dots for even a moment.
The fear of transgender people whom he will never meet, and nonexistent furries flying nonexistent planes, will forever guarantee this gigantic boob will always vote for the party that guarantees maximum harm to society.
Nailed it. My dad was like this. Rather than learn a new thing or have his beliefs challenged, he would say "I ain't nothing but an old country boy" then carry on doing the same dumb thing as before.
Because despite what the big Ag corpos want you to believe, farming is not that pastoral, idyllic thing they paint in advertisements. Farming is not people bending down on one knee to gently fondle the first shoots of a crop growing.
Its highly industrialized, heavily automated, and extremely machine reliant at every single possible point to save the most money. The most they do is sit in a tractor cab, drinking soda and eating cookies and chips.
The actual physically intensive parts of farming that cannot be done with machinery is accomplished by undocumented migrants labor being underpaid.
Yes. Anyone who waddles when they walk like that, surely can't efficaciously "work their fields". I realize they aren't handling a horse and plow but they still have to retain their abilities to perfuse, respire, and move.
They had me at “they’d rather work their fields, than rely on tax payers money.” I honestly can’t picture any of these guys doing an hour’s worth of labor on a field, much less mow my lawn :/
No. In the Country of monopolies are great..one of the Big Ag corporations will gobble them up by buying the debt they can’t afford to payoff. Pretty standard ploy through out every industry in this Country.
You know he’s going to talk about the border. All these maga morons are racist. I don’t appreciate that either. It will take us decades to repair our image
Yeah I can’t help but think about his last line wondering if he broke what started in 1800. Yrs. Yes you did. You voted against your own interest when literally everyone left of maga was telling you not to.
It just makes me think how privileged these dudes actually are. Their ancestors stole land, used slave labour, and gifted them generation wealth. I’m sure some of them worked very hard. But this dude was born and given a functional business and is now crying that he fucked it up.
If you voted for trump, yes. You are the one that broke your families legacy. People warned you. Over and over and over again. You didn't want to listen.
Lol that one gets me every the time. They want us to empathize with them. To see them as victims of circumstance... Yet they refuse to even consider that they, themselves, had some control over their own fate
Hell trump even told them directly to their faces he didn't care about them. Has decades of evidence of showing exactly the kind of person he is and what he thinks of the poorly educated or at least he thinks of as uneducated.
This is what’s so frustrating to me. I got into arguments with my FIL about Project 2025 before the election and he kept calling it “fake news,” he said he’s done a lot of research (he only watches Fox News for research) and had not heard about it, he said it sounds like a bunch of Liberal fear mongering.
Now as it’s happening and he’s getting impacted, he says it’s a small price to pay to keep nuclear weapons out of Irans hands.
We can’t talk politics because he refuses to think and when things happen, he moves the goal posts.
Genuine question, I'm not trying to be rude when I ask this. I've seen videos with these farmers. I've been to state fairs where they travel to show off their prized live stock. Why are all of them so unimaginably unhealthy and obese? Their kids are also excessively overweight. I don't care if someone is overweight, it's none of my business. But farming is supposed to be hard work, right? They're all red and cherub faced, though.
Grew up and worked as an adult on our moderate-sized family farm. They're morons. That's it.
You see, farming doesn't require an education, or a 'deep sensitivity to Nature'; farmers aren't "stewards of the environment" - that's a bullshit marketing. Modern farming isn't a "healthy lifestyle"; instead, it's 14-16 hours in a tractor drinking Mountain Dew and eating cookies and chips. For efficiency, everything on the farm is very heavy and machines are required - farmers are mostly highly skilled tractor and equipment operators running half-million dollar equipment like combines, corn planters, various harvesters. Animal farms have to control, process, and dispose of tens of millions of gallons of manure every year. Maintaining and repairing all that equipment is also inevitable.
Farming requires the ability to work 14-16 hours a day, 7 days a week, in all weather - that's it. No time for PPE, no tag-out--lock-out, no breaks for a healthy farm-fresh meal, no 'pure and natural', no clean water - and constant exposure to toxic fertilizers, herbicides, aerosolized bleach and ammonia (in the milking parlor). Hell, I'd get a 36 hour headache after 5 minutes in the milking area...
Usually, as was the case on our farm, Mexican, Guatemalan workers, (I hear that some farms have Puerto Rican workers) did the hard physical work like milking cows, feeding calves, etc.
This is a major state of the Americans diet overall. It’s sad, and it was hard for me to break.
Soda is addictive, little Debbie’s is addictive, etc… I lost nearly 30lbs from just cutting those things out, they where blasting my daily calorie intake almost 500 above my recommended, it adds up over time, and one day you just realize you’re fat, and you blame everything but what should be obvious in front of you.
I’ve kept the weight off for nearly 8 years now, but I still think about soda all the time, and crave the savory taste of a Twinkie, but I want to live as long as I can.
A lot of it was ignorance, but it was also about comfort and convenience from working 80 hrs a week.
I was wondering if they are some of the last people to believe hard work and having a business is all you need for American dream and being isolated has made them slow to feel effects of American oligarch nightmare
They are heavily subsidized - bribed. They're socialists, but 100% refuse to see that. They wouldn't be in business if not propped up by the USDA grants and all kinds of federal and state programs. That's why Dump wants to get checks to them - a bribe.
I think they just don't pay any attention to anything but working. "I do whut muh daddy done, and his daddy done before that." That goes for farming or voting conservative - it's reflexive. They are convinced Democrats are c0mm1es, f*@ *g*s, gender swappers, big tax boogeymen - whatever.
Sure you can find exceptions, but IMO this is more true than exaggerated.
They literally grow food so its abundant to them. The hard work is done by the illegal migrants that they effectively voted out so now they have no one to work their farms for cheap and they physically can't do it either.
Because the word "farmer" doesn't mean what you think it means. These guys aren't mom 'n' pop one man shows doing the physical labor required to cultivate crops, they're basically medieval landlords. They own the land (which they inherited) and pay other, more competent people to do the work for them while they sit on their fat fucking asses sucking up millions in government subsidies and whine about how the government doesn't give hard-working self-made people like them enough money and adulation.
They don't do any of the work, they hire people for that(always immigrants, always paying incredibly low wages) and they sit on their ass drinking a gallon of sweet tea that has a whole pound of sugar in it.
My cousin still runs the family farm and gradually bought out all the shares from my grandparents generation when the ownership was formally divided up between all the kids. He’s a very lean guy. Like marathon runner build. Never had a gf so maybe that’s a factor but I think
more importantly he actually goes out and does the work, drives the equipment, and walks the fields. I think most of these fat asses just drive their truck around to monitor the hired help and then sit at Waffle House all day.
It's not that they don't eat vegetables, it's that everything is covered in butter, lard, and sugar. Farming was a high calorie, but the last two generations saw it reverse due to machinery and a lot of the families didn't change their eating habits.
These may be the fellas that, despite anti-immigrant voting stance, hire illegals to do the actual work. It's wild how many of these idiots will break their own kneecap.
They don't do any physical work like the skinny farmers of years ago instead they ride tractors all day. Farmers years ago ate big meals for breakfast, lunch, and dinner and worked off the calories doing hard labor.
Yes, there was a Redditor who earlier this year posted a story about his American father - a farmer - coming to visit him in Europe; the father was thin, and just looked so different from the farmers in these types of videos.
No one "rolled the dice." All of the evidence was laid out clear as day and y'all still voted for him. I liked what that other farmer said: You can own the libs, or you can own your farm, but you can't own both.
"We didn't have a better option" Yes little buddy, you could have voted for that black woman, but you didn't want to vote for a woman, much less a black one, so keep getting fisted by Trump, since it's your only option.
Farmers have been getting bail outs for decades. They are just too stupid to realize that subsidy is just welfare by another name. Sucks to lose the family farm but have the day you voted for.
Wait so farmers are getting a bailout? What a bunch of communist snowflakes. What happened to good ol fashion capitalism? Back in my day you use to pull yourself up towards Jesus by nothing but your bootstraps. Damn magats always asking for a handout.
I realize it's never good to relish in someone else's pain (schadenfreude) but this has always been difficult for me to hear their plights and not think this is exactly what they deserve.
Being incapable of seeing that Donald Trump was a fraud before the first election, deciding to still vote for him (because fuck women), seeing how poorly that turned out (covid and more), supporting a cause that he was robbed of the second election (election fraud and raiding of our capital), then turning around for the 3rd and voting still (absolutely idiocy).
It's like they saw the bloody scrawl on the wall, read it, and said, (edit: wow, this "quote" started out as like 3 sentences, but it's crazy how I can just keep going and none of it feels incorrect based on current circumstances)
"Who are these warnings for? Not for me, that's for sure! I am white and DT sounds like the best bet for my future, OUR future as Americans! He's finally going to smite all the illegal brown people in our nation! Any opposition, even my fellow white Americans and that's amazing! I can't wait to see my fellow Americans (and immigrants) be falsely imprisoned, held hostage, kidnapped, deprived of their liberties, or deported without cause.
Hell, we should have a force of mentally unstable vigilantes that arrest people without cause, murder them in the streets, and more! We should continue to support our police force that answers distress with violence, misunderstanding with murder, and more! They don't need proper education on the law, proper training for crisis, standards that uphold the constitution or bill of rights. Heck, we'd love it if they started using illegal means to monitor people they had suspicion over or wanted to follow for fun. Those pesky ex-girlfriends deserve to be stalked! Cameras should be used for mass surveillance. I love knowing that big brother has an eye on all those filthy illegals.
Brown people? DT supports that we fuck them over! I love that. I hate Muslims! I hate everything that is different than my vision of righteous Christianity in my country. Have I read the bible? No! Will I read the bible? No! Will I follow the teachings of the bible? No! The word of God is one that smites anyone who identities differently, anyone who isn't an idealized white nationalist holy figure! It's within Trump's rights to depict himself as a savior, because that IS what he is. He is our version of Jesus, living in the modern world! White people should dictate the lives of others. We are the best country in the world! Nothing is ever going to bring us down. The white folk will always come out on top and I sure hate taxpayer money going to social causes, but fuck if I won't take it under another name."
While this video shows one individual that understands its a bandaid, he fails to mention (maybe he recognizes it, but it isn't touched on in this clip) that he is still be swindled with this tariff relief bailout. It's your money you paid for tariffs, it's just a small portion you're getting back. This isn't a boon, WE were being robbed right from underneath OUR noses and now Trump is giving you a tiny bit back to placate you into voting for representatives that will continue to feed into this disarray just to make it easier to cover up decades of sexual abuse, allow him and others close to him to cash in on any financial gains he can, and disrupt the very foundation of our country. He's most likely even going to try running for office again in 2028, and who's to stop him? We keep letting him shit all over our values, laws, constitution and rights. What (or rather who) is going to stand up to him and stop him? We can barely do anything to stop anything he does already.
Edit: I realize the "quote" above is a super long paragraph, sorry about that. I honestly could keep writing because there are just so many examples of hypocrisy and lunacy within that spectrum of people.
The bar for being competent can be high sometimes. A competent business stays open (if it wants to).
Competency means adequately navigating your circumstances. It means finding the right people: employees, customers, suppliers, and yes political representatives. It can be very hard.
And it doesn’t matter how loud you sing the anthem, how hard you work, how white you are, or how long the farm has been in the family.
If you are incompetent, Capitalism will choose you for Bankruptcy.
The concept of the small town farm is not economically viable , and that's why these people have become accustomed to government subsidies to keep it going.
See what people don't understand is these farmers don't put up their own money. They're given very low interest , short term loans to get by until they sell their crop or herd , and then they repay that loan.
The problem they're having is because of inflation and rising resource costs like fertilizer and gasoline , they will run a negative when they sell their product and therefore will not be able to pay back the loans.
Their profit margin has always been very thin , and now they're gonna run in the negative.
Now , I certainly sympathize with anybody who's just trying to make a living and things beyond that control hinder that..
But any farmer or rancher , who has been in this business for a long time , will tell you that the business has highs and lows , and some years you're gonna lose money and some years you're gonna make money , just like every other marketable product. That's why smart businesses build reserves over the years to get by when business is bad. Instead , these people buy pickup trucks and kansas city cheifs season tickets.
But i'm sure that the ones that consider themselves republicans should look themselves in the face and wonder why they back a political system that says that if you fail , then you fail that the government and the people have no obligation to help you if you run a small business.
Especially considering their livelihood depends on the opposite.
I mean , these guys should be familiar with this phrase..
What we have right now is the result of people that don't understand complex economic systems voting to preserve social structures that benefit them at the cost of others living with the consequences of their poorly thought out choices. In short "I just didn't want gay people around my kids, Mexican people getting food stamps, and I liked the way he pissed off the libs. I didn't know he was going to bee so incompetent at running the country. It's almost like the things I liked about him were of no value. I feel betrayed by my own stupidity."
He knew that Liberals were against every promise that Trump lied about. He made the conscious decision to never look into it. He had his chance to try to avoid this, and he didn't take it.
Also, I love how nearly (or actually) every farmer we've seen, have been growing cashcrops that are for export only. Lmfao! You think we care about a cashcrop farmer? You wanna threaten the rest of America's food chain, when you're barely even a part of it? Okay buddy.
The ranchers have more of a stump to lean on, which still ain't enough.
That's the thing that gets me, you will never hate a Republican as much as they hate you. It's literally why we aren't allowed to have nice things, such as universal income or Medicare for all type deal. These people hate so much, and then wonder why we aren't surprised when they lose their livelihood to the people they voted for, simply because they said they'd hurt "the other".
You will never hate Republicans as much as they hate you
They don’t realize this isn’t a bug but a feature.
Project 2025 wants those farmers as cheap labor for the corporations who will come in and buy their now worthless bankrupt farms for pennies on the dollar. Once they have all of the peasants under their thumbs they will remove the tariffs and control agriculture.
Yes you broke the chain. Your generation decided it was more important that we didn't have trans athletes playing sports, or immigrants working our fields. You don't care about peace in the world, until it affects your gas prices and thus your livelihood?
I want to dunk on the people I see in these videos so badly. But I’m from rural KY and grew up on a farm.
I wish these people would understand that every bad policy that has hurt them was done by the people they support. And continuing to support these people means prolonging their suffering.
I just feel that after losing their money, their farm, their identity that they still wouldn’t change their views. And that makes me incredibly sad.
I grew up in the Deep South surrounded by people like this.
I grew up in the same shit they did and didn’t use it as an excuse to be a hateful bigoted loser.
So I’ll dunk on them every day. I’ll remind them to their faces. I’ll mock them and insult them.
They won’t listen to facts or reason or logic so I’ll remind them that they are failures. That their ancestors would be ashamed of them for losing the farm.
Something that would shock the founding fathers (everything trump does would shock them), is Trump's ability to give people billions of dollars without Congressional approval.
If the president has the power of the purse then checks and balances mean nothing.
They would also be shocked by how the supreme court has decided that they can literally make laws, bypassing the other two branches.
I keep wondering if trump is going to pull a last minute buy their vote. Not that he would need to do something dramatic at this point to retain their vote.
Remember how you told us, you wanted us to cry? Remember when you said fuck our feelings?
Remember when you said you wanted us to hate you??
Well congratulations, you got that out of us.. BUT now YOU want to cry to us about your sorrows, your worries and your 'remorse'... You want US to care, you want US to forgive and help, YOU WANT US TO GIVE A DAMN NOW??.
Dude is crying about losing his farm and being on 4 different blood pressure medicines. Good thing he voted to tear down the ACA too. I want to have compassion but guy slamming his own dick in the screen door then asking why he can't piss straight.
That being said, I'm still gonna support universal healthcare, even if it helps idiots like him.
“What do you think about when you go to bed at night?”
The honest answer is “I’d do it all again to own the libs. And all the trans athletes in college sports. Stopping all 10 of them are worth my generational farm.”
These folks have 0 remorse for their vote and STILL don’t understand why everyone in the country isn’t just falling over themselves to help the farming community. F them all. Let them be forced to sell their farms and then work it for minimum wage just like they want to do.
13 billion dollars to correct his mistakes..... at the heels of multiple other billions of dollars back to corporations for illegal tariffs, and all paid for by US citizens. Is any of this making America great again? Or are we in the middle of another failed Republican presidency?
God dammit why is 60 Minutes putting a camera in face of these jackasses and treating their hardship as if it's not self-inflicted? I'm already fucked financially, why do I give a fuck if they are fucked too? It's not going to change their voting habits. Why do we give grace to these self harming idiots?
There's hate and/or prideful ignorance behind every Trump voter. I'm a good person, but it's hard for me to feel empathy when they get a taste of what they willfully unleashed unto others
So…. What do they propose is the stitch? Because all my life I’ve heard this same story over and over. Remember farm aid? I had/have 3 family members farming in Central KY and relied on dairy and tobacco prices. When those fell, so did the farm.
This is where idiots fall for the bullshit. The court found the tariffs illegals and order the government to reimburse, so how do you pay farmers of you are reimbursing corporations. What a scheme.
All of these farmers have something’s in common. They all watched Fox News which is basically the National Enquirer over the air and they believed all the lies they Trump and them Republican politicians spewed on a daily basis. Now they are paying the price for being so divisive, hateful and ignorant. They want others to suffer so they could benefit but the con-man and grifter they chose to worship and follow had other plans. Like enriching himself and his family.
Yeah, we know how it feels. We've been feeling it for decades every time Republicans are running the show. We need the basics so we can get to work living and earning, too, but people like you keep voting to starve us out.
Pro-tip: Most Democrats are centrist, which means if you vote for a Democrat, you'll still get center-right economic policy, but that's executed competently and shores up the economy as a whole with safety net programs—which, by the way, benefit you, too.
So spare us your existential distress. You vote it onto the rest of us every chance you get.
Do they understand yet that what they voted for made everything more expensive for the rest of us and took food out of the mouths of children that got SNAP benefits and from the USAID program ending?.It's impossible to feel sad for the farmers. They may be mad at Trump but they'll still vote for Republicans because, you know, Trans and furries.
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u/uberneuman_part2 13h ago
Well, Farmer Chud, quit voting to put yourself up on the rope.