So Much (for) Electricity

[u/rowan_damisch]

[u/VibeCheckingJumboJet]

That's:

-I'm Like a Lawyer With The Way I'm Always Trying To Get You Off

-"The Take Over, The Break's Over"

-I've Got All This Ringing In My Ears and None On My Fingers

-Champagne For My Real Friends, Real Pain For My Sham Friends

-Get Busy Living or Get Busy Dying (Do Your Part to Save The Scene and Stop Going to Shows)

These are all real song titles

[u/AnxiousTuxedoBird → u/VibeCheckingJumboJet]

As I said on the post on tumblr, they could have added a fake one and no one would have noticed

[u/Much_Conclusion8233 → u/AnxiousTuxedoBird]

You haven't heard of "slapping my balls to make the beat slap (my lawyer advised me to not slap my balls on stage)"?

[u/parentheticalboys → u/Much_Conclusion8233]

You might be intentionally making this joke but if you aren’t they actually have a song called “Our Laywer Made Us Change The Name of This Song So We Wouldn’t Get Sued”

[u/Much_Conclusion8233 → u/parentheticalboys]

It was inspired by that. I'm also a big fan of "I slept with someone in fall out boy and all I got was this stupid song written about me"

[u/parentheticalboys → u/Much_Conclusion8233]

It’s such a good album lol I listened to cork tree while I got an MRI last year

[u/yoyo5113 → u/parentheticalboys]

Oooh I'm getting an MRI soon. I'll check that out

[u/parentheticalboys → u/yoyo5113]

ask for an eye mask!!!!!!!!

[u/perton → u/yoyo5113]

I’m gonna try to get an MRI just so I can listen to it!

[u/Much_Conclusion8233 → u/parentheticalboys]

I love that album

[u/aepocalypsa → u/parentheticalboys]

banger song, too

[u/somehowrelevantuser → u/aepocalypsa]

unironically probably my favorite from that album highly recommended

[u/jancl0 → u/VibeCheckingJumboJet]

That champagne one is the kind of pun that you immediately recognise is horrifyingly cringe, but the moment you think of something like that you know that you need to put it somewhere

A thought that should never be voiced, but shouldn't die with you either

[u/Anonymus828 → u/jancl0]

A true cognitohazard

[u/jancl0 → u/Anonymus828]

The rokos basilisk of wordplay. The only correct move was to have never thought of it in the first place

[u/kakuna → u/jancl0]

Hmm, Roko's basilisk is an interesting if not flawed thought experiment. Thanks for bringing it up, nifty little wiki read.

Edit: flawed is an understatement 

[u/Anonymus828 → u/kakuna]

Rokos basilisk is so funny to me. Like yeah, the thing with nigh-omnipotent power is gonna be a little bitch about who helped make it and who didn't. Truly made in our own image.

[u/kakuna → u/Anonymus828]

Thought that was funny, too. The premise assumes AI will have an emotional response, that it will have negative emotions, and will apply it's vindictive streak to people's actions and inaction before its own 'identity' even came into existence.

It's a whole grab bag of silliness. Kinda fun. Functionally useless. Would make for a decent black mirror style episode or short story, though 

[u/Kirk_Kerman → u/kakuna]

Also assumes that your simulated self is exactly the same as your real self such that you effectively are reincarnated into simulated hell.

[u/Tsuki_no_Mai → u/Kirk_Kerman]

It's less of a reincarnation I think and more of "as an individual you can't tell if you're an original or a simulation that is going to be tortured and tortured infinitely, so you better act as if it's the worst case scenario" which is a pretty flawed idea in and of itself.

[u/jancl0 → u/kakuna]

I mean (I hate that I'm about to defend this thing but I can't help myself) I don't think it necessitates that the basilisk needs to be emotional. There are two factors that I think are the strongest argument. First, the paperclip maximiser problem, where if we give an ai a goal, it doesn't really need to have emotions in order to do some absolutely insane things to achieve it. The second is the fact that if we made it, it would be trained on human data, so even if it isn't emotional, it would learn to act emotionally, because that's how we act. In fact you can argue that the fact that we have the concept of rokos basilisk means that it will also be in its training data, so that's literally an idea that we directly feed it

Theres actually another interesting topic called instrumental convergence. Basically that in order to achieve any goal, there are a set number of other goals that would be achieved along the way, and they stay the same no matter what the main goal is. So like, no matter what you want to achieve in life, it would involve making sure you eat every day

For ai, in order to do something to the best of your ability, you probably need to enslave the human race at some point, because the more resources you have, the more efficiently you can achieve that goal. So rokos basilisk could end up being the result of any ai we make with a sufficient level of intelligence, we just don't know if that's an instrumental goal or not. If it is, that's universal, it's just a fact of logic, and there's nothing we can do to change that

The real stupid thing about rokos basilisk is that it doesn't account for the fact that most humans today just wouldn't care. So there's a digital clone of me somewhere that is suffering in a way that I will never understand, and I'll never interact with it? Sounds like I'll be fine then, so I don't care lol, at least not enough to contribute to the basilisk. This is how most people will feel. So even just thinking this immediately becomes an anti-basilisk where now it has no reason to torture this clone of you, you've logicked yourself out of the situation

[u/open_formation → u/jancl0]

I'm not sure what the original definition of this actually is, but I suspect it's produced via a reverse of the same process of transmission by which advanced AI was already translated into religious terms:

If advanced AI that uploads you is like going to heaven, can we conceive of a version of Pascals wager which translates the fear of hell back into the same domain.

What you do by saying "I don't care about a future copy of myself, that's not me" is to break the connective nerve tissue that allows religious intuitions to be translated to AI.

If Roko's basilisk can't send you to hell, advanced AI can't send you to heaven either, the world of potential simulated humans is a separate existence that does not have the same moral weight as you in the present, and isn't something you treat as yourself.

Another similar technique is to embrace the Religion <-> AI mapping and just get heretical, in the same manner as people have been trolling religious people over the years, and talk about atheist deities who will send people to hell for believing in hell, for example.

That might even have more connection to real AI stuff actually; if instrumental convergence and AI safety concerns are real, then we could conclude that the existence of a super-intelligence willing to torture anyone would already be a failure state, and so any future AI that you would want would not want to torture people, and any future AI you do want would not want people like you to have power if you are willing to support an AI who tortures.

Thus you could infer that either we should not be making AI's of sufficient ability that we start thinking of them as gods at all, or the play of such an AI would be to give a place in afterlife only to people who are not motivated by the threat of torture and do not assist those who are, as they are willing to support creating AI that unilaterally increase the amount of suffering in the world in order to make good on inferences made in the far past, when they could just be giving people pleasure and happiness.

[u/PurpleHooloovoo → u/jancl0]

So this must be the inspiration for Severance. So, so interesting.

[u/Obscu → u/jancl0]

Roko's basilisk is literally just Pascal's Wager. Tech bros really thought they invented the concept of wondering whether god is real and whether it's worth acting like it just in case.

[u/jancl0 → u/Obscu]

It is, but it's also more flawed as a result of the fact that creation is the justification for the eternal damnation in this case. With God, he already exists, so his ability to create hell isn't based on whether or not you go. With the basilisk, it needs you to grant it the power to do things like create hell, which is why it's making hell in the first place

This fundamentally changes the game theory of the situation. God sends you to hell for not being moral, the basilisk sends you to hell for not making the basilisk. The latter is utilitarian

So it actually simplifies things. There are 3 possibilities presented in rokos basilisk. 1, the idea never occurred to you, so it's no one's fault that you never thought to help create it, and the basilisk doesn't have the power to change that. You are spared. 2, you thought of the basilisk, found it a compelling motivator, and contributed to creating it. You did what the basilisk wanted, so you are spared

The third one is the touchy one. You thought of the basilisk, you did not find it a compelling motivator, abs you did not contribute. Well, it's the only motivator that the basilisk has, and it used it, and it didn't work. So this is actually just the first case again. The basilisk does not have the power to motivate you, so what it does doesn't matter, you would be spared

This doesn't work for pascals wager because the wager does not define what the purpose of hell is, just what causes you to go there. It's existence doesn't hinge on your belief, only whether or not it gets applied to you. So the idea of "threatening hell didn't work on you so I never had the power to convince you otherwise anyway" isn't relevant, maybe that has nothing to do with why you go to hell, the only condition assumed is belief itself

[u/Flaydowsk → u/Obscu]

Caveat: I'd say is the antithesis of Pascal's Wager bc the wager's conclussion is "be good (Well, follow the doctrine, which SHOULD MEAN to be god), even if there is no God, there is more to lose by not doing it" whereas Roko's Basilisk is "Help to create Satan bc it's better to be an accomplice in hell than a rebel in turbohell"

[u/jancl0 → u/kakuna]

You should also know that it's been widely adopted by techno fascists and it's a big reason we have the ai issue we have right now. It's the tech philosophy equivalent to a song that sounds nice as long as you don't look up anything about the guys who wrote it

[u/AngriestPacifist → u/jancl0]

We should also note that it might be the single dumbest thing on the entire internet. It's philosophy for people that thought philosophy 101 was too hard, and they're stoned.

[u/kakuna → u/jancl0]

Interesting. I don't keep up much on the techno fascists because I feel like that might cause some damage to my own well-being if I follow them too closely, but this feels flimsy enough that it feels like more of a pretense for technofascists than something they would actually believe. 

Then again, technofascists are not that tech savvy, it turns out, so I don't know. Maybe they're drinking their own kool-aid

[u/Kirk_Kerman → u/kakuna]

It's one component of a much larger decentralized cult called TESCREAL by researchers. A fuckton of the ultra wealthy buy into one or more aspects of this ideological spaghetti that exists to self-justify extreme wealth gathering and depersoning anyone less wealthy.

[u/firestorm713 → u/kakuna]

It's just Pascal's Wager for techbros

[u/Gizogin → u/kakuna]

It’s literally a restatement of Pascal’s Wager, thought up by AI bros who think they’re too smart for Pascal’s Wager.

[u/Obscu → u/Gizogin]

Who've never heard of Pascal's Wager because they've never read a fucking book in their lives so they earnestly believe they invented Pascal's Wager

[u/Obscu → u/kakuna]

Roko's basilisk is literally just Pascal's Wager. Tech bros really thought they invented the concept of wondering whether god is real and whether it's worth acting like it just in case.

[u/Kirk_Kerman → u/kakuna]

It's Pascal's Wager, devised by the dumbest motherfuckers to ever live, who've never read more than the blurbs on the backs of philosophy texts - or even less than that, the pop culture quotes wrongly attributes to Nietzsche.

[u/Cyberguardian173 → u/jancl0]

It's actually an old toast that people would say in bars and taverns. It's been around probably hundreds of years

[u/ironic69 → u/jancl0]

It ain't original. Shampoo for my real friends real poo for my sham friends.

[u/JustStraightUpTired → u/jancl0]

Sometimes you find puns exactly like that, where it's so bad that the context it was in starts to feel like it was created for that one pun alone.

One that I can't prove, but I'm almost certain of is in the Ninja Sex Party song "Road Trip" which is a "list song" where they list places they've visited and some sexual rhyme for what they did there. e.g "I banged 'em silly in Philly", "I had 'em screaming for Baltimore", "I slapped my groin on Des Moines." Etc.

But the one I'm certain the whole song was written for is simply "I banged-ladesh!!" A pun so bad I'd absolutely write a 4 minute song to justify using if I was a musician.

[u/GenerallySpecified → u/JustStraightUpTired]

But there's only one way to keep things fresh 'cause -

I CONQUERED EARTH, IT IS TIME TO MOOOOVE ON!

[u/jpterodactyl → u/jancl0]

I mean, this genre is all about embracing what many would call cringe. Have you seen how we dressed back then?

[u/JP147 → u/jancl0]

Relevant XKCD: 1645

[u/pandachef_reads → u/jancl0]

That last bit is absolutely a Panic! At the Disco song. Or maybe an album title

[u/bwaredapenguin → u/jancl0]

That would have been an AIM away message back in 2002 if I had thought of it.

[u/Sachayoj → u/VibeCheckingJumboJet]

Patrick kept opening up a book, throwing down a slice of Swiss cheese, and then made song titles out of whatever words he saw.

[u/Mushroomer → u/Sachayoj]

Fake fan alert, Pete's the lyricist.

[u/radicalelation → u/Mushroomer]

As much as I loved Patrick's solo album that he did almost all his own, his lyrics were weak...

[u/catboogers → u/radicalelation]

Perhaps, but the music video for Oh Nostalgia will always make me happy, just shining a light on people doing their thing.

[u/PrizeStrawberryOil → u/Mushroomer]

But Patrick made all the titles.

[u/m4teri4lgirl → u/Mushroomer]

Poseurs ruining the scene

[u/PulimV → u/Sachayoj]

By Panic! At the Disco

[u/bentreflection → u/Sachayoj]

which album was that title from?

[u/snagez → u/VibeCheckingJumboJet]

oop is a larper, the first song's abbreviation should be ilalwtwiattgyo (m+y), they forgot the parentheses

[u/alanpugh → u/[deleted]]

If you believe that, you need to listen to their song Pretty in Punk, from before all of these. As much as I love the band, it could be the incel national anthem.

[u/fadedbluejeans13 → u/alanpugh]

Sure but it’s catchy as hell so we can ignore that

[u/Heckyll_Jive → u/[deleted]]

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Bot comment. 3 month old account that just started posting, post history is all karmafarming subs, wording lines up with known bots.

[u/SpambotWatchdog → u/Heckyll_Jive]

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[u/Fancy_Echo_5425 → u/[deleted]]

Bot?

[u/West-Reflection2197 → u/Fancy_Echo_5425]

just started posting in the last hour, so yea.

[u/TheWrongTypeOfUnique → u/West-Reflection2197]

When this happens Are the accounts actually 3 months old? were they just sitting there for a couple months, or is there a way to fake it?

[u/Heckyll_Jive → u/TheWrongTypeOfUnique]

A little from column A and a little from Column B, if I had to guess. I've definitely seen trends suggesting that whoever runs these circles of bot accounts will just make a bunch of them and let them sit for a while. I've also seen old, pre-existing accounts get repurposed as bots, likely through hacking or being sold.

[u/Lombard333 → u/VibeCheckingJumboJet]

I could sing all these songs word for word and still had no idea what the initialisms were.

[u/jupiterLILY → u/Lombard333]

Yeah, my brain got stuck computing because I know fall out boy and could not think what any of these were.

[u/biglyorbigleague → u/VibeCheckingJumboJet]

Everyone thinks they’re Jim Steinman

[u/windexsorbet → u/VibeCheckingJumboJet]

This made me realize a Tumblr post I saw more than a decade ago must have been a reference to one of these songs. It said "Shampoo for my real friends, real poo for my sham friends"

[u/wingedcoyote → u/windexsorbet]

The champagne pun is almost two hundred years old. Shampoo variation is clever, I hadn't seen that one before.

[u/carrythenine → u/windexsorbet]

Tumbleweeds for my real friends, real weed for my Tumblr friends

[u/FEED_ME_YOUR_EYES → u/windexsorbet]

In case anyone wants more of these:

https://xkcd.com/1645/

[u/vanetti → u/FEED_ME_YOUR_EYES]

There is always a relevant XKCD

[u/OldTimeyStrongman → u/vanetti]

Except for when there isn’t, but we don’t talk about those times.

[u/huntwhales23 → u/FEED_ME_YOUR_EYES]

holy shit i forgot about realplayer

[u/Assleanx → u/windexsorbet]

That’s reminded me of a deeply strange show my friends and I stumbled into at Edinburgh Fringe about ten years ago. All I remember was a guy squeezing shampoo into a mop head he’d been using as a wig while going “sham… poo…” in a very high pitched voice. It’s completely unrelated to your point but this thing lurks in my memories

[u/SeventhAlkali → u/VibeCheckingJumboJet]

C-Tier isekai titles

[u/Thromnomnomok → u/SeventhAlkali]

titles

I definitely didn't read right at first

[u/Birbo7 → u/VibeCheckingJumboJet]

firs title I've seen with more words than mr. capgras encounters a secondhand vanity: tulpamancer's prosopagnosia/pareidolia (as direct result of trauma to the fusiform gyrus)

[u/Purple_Midnight_Yak → u/Birbo7]

Will Wood?

[u/Birbo7 → u/Purple_Midnight_Yak]

yes!! will wood and the tapeworms.

[u/JamesLiptonIcedTea → u/Birbo7]

"When You're a Ant and You Wake Up in an Awesome Mood, About to Drive Your Son to School, Only to Discover That You Left the Lights on in the Car Last Night So Your Battery Is Drained", André 3000 - 7 Piano Sketches

[u/Saxton_Hale32 → u/VibeCheckingJumboJet]

The fourth one really tickles me

[u/OfficialSandwichMan → u/VibeCheckingJumboJet]

What I want to know is why they feel the need to spell out every song title instead of calling it the first few words, like "I'm a lawyer", "the take over", "ringing", "champagne" or whatever

[u/kashiichan → u/OfficialSandwichMan]

It's funnier this way.

[u/AtticusIsOkay → u/VibeCheckingJumboJet]

I'm sorry but the choruses for The Take Over and Champagne fucking SLAP

[u/biggestofbears → u/VibeCheckingJumboJet]

And all of those songs are fuckin bangers

[u/Psychotic_Ambition → u/VibeCheckingJumboJet]

okay now that i can actually decipher this, it’s true. a lot of infinity on high songs are pretty underwhelming when you get to the chorus. Get busy living or get busy dying as a song has always underwhelming to me in general and the only skip i have on From Under the Cork Tree, not just the chorus, but i think Champagne is still the best on this list.

[u/CRowlands1989 → u/VibeCheckingJumboJet]

Fallout Boy really are Isekai Light Novels of song naming.

[u/SocranX → u/VibeCheckingJumboJet]

Okay, but what about "srar"?

[u/warumwhy → u/SocranX]

Save Rock and Roll - 2013 album that marked their shift to their modern style

[u/X-Himy → u/VibeCheckingJumboJet]

Panic at the Disco songs are like the titles of isekais.

[u/JJlaser1 → u/VibeCheckingJumboJet]

I now understand the “everything is a Fall Out Boy song title” joke.

… by Fall Out Boy

[u/1415- → u/VibeCheckingJumboJet]

Thank you omg

[u/BaronAleksei → u/VibeCheckingJumboJet]

Yeah, but have you thanked God for Esteban today?

[u/ClockworkTyrant → u/VibeCheckingJumboJet]

The take over, the breaks over is one of my favorite songs! Been listening to this band for over 15 years lmao

Their song titles are all like this basically

[u/Hugebigfan → u/VibeCheckingJumboJet]

No those are noises you make when struck by an electric fence.

[u/No-Consequence-1863 → u/VibeCheckingJumboJet]

Fallout boy used to write novels on the back of their CDs

[u/Pharthrax → u/VibeCheckingJumboJet]

Much obliged 💀

[u/fgcem13 → u/VibeCheckingJumboJet]

And they are all excellent songs.

[u/Not_the_banana → u/VibeCheckingJumboJet]

Sounds like modern isekai titles

[u/Bobboy5 → u/VibeCheckingJumboJet]

These Are All Real Song Titles, by Fall Out Boy

[u/welshyboy123]

My favourite thing about Fall Out Boy song names is that among all of the long emo as fuck song names, there is one simply called XO.

[u/AnxiousTuxedoBird → u/welshyboy123]

Or when they got told to shorten a song name and we got the wonderful Thnks Fr Th Mmrs

[u/Longjumping_Ad2677 → u/welshyboy123]

Which is also a pretty good Elliot Smith album.

[u/FakeTakiInoue → u/Longjumping_Ad2677]

Independence Day my beloved

[u/1000scarstare → u/Longjumping_Ad2677]

one of my claims to fame is that i was in the top 1% listeners of elliot smith one year on spotify. after that i just downloaded the albums onto my phone so spotify didn't know when i was listening and looked into getting therapy.

[u/isuckatnames60 → u/Longjumping_Ad2677]

As well as a wonderful song by EDEN

[u/marcher138 → u/welshyboy123]

Which I think works well, since it's at the end of an album that's mostly long song titles (excluding the first two singles). And it helps that it's one of the best songs from that album

[u/StrykerGryphus → u/welshyboy123]

And that one actually happens to be my favorite one. I guess I just have a thing for long choruses that could be split up into two distinct parts.

[u/CrrackTheSkye]

What does pre-srar mean?

Edit: nvm i used google, Save Rock and Roll, an album

[u/ATN-Antronach → u/CrrackTheSkye]

You needed that explained but not the isisnxifnfidkskksjfnf me?

[u/CrrackTheSkye → u/ATN-Antronach]

Yeah, I used to listen to fall out boy a lot when I was a teenager, which was untill like 2008

[u/ATN-Antronach → u/CrrackTheSkye]

oh, so the keyboard kitty came naturally

[u/CrrackTheSkye → u/ATN-Antronach]

Sure? Not following I think.

[u/tairar → u/CrrackTheSkye]

Ttatstwrltks (they're talking about the song titles which read like Tumblr key smashes)

tllacraykb (they look like a cat ran across your key board)

[u/JamesLiptonIcedTea → u/ATN-Antronach]

dog, I thought you meant >:3

which absolutely tracks for the time

[u/batmansleftnut → u/ATN-Antronach]

I assumed that was an attempt at transcribing the lyrics.

[u/jancl0]

I don't really know fallout boy, but I was into panic at the disco, and I immediately understood what was going on. I guess there was a mid-late 2000s trend of songs with names that were just entire shower thoughts, and I didn't notice until now

We have iwsnt, litmfagchwthco, todbmasipc, lbsamwbm, famitmotc, tagrttanhyjhtoiy, and more

[u/byronmiller → u/jancl0]

Electric fence strikes again

[u/ImmortalMoron3 → u/byronmiller]

This shit reminds me of when you wander into a subreddit you've never been to before and they have all their own acronyms so you have no idea what anyone is saying to each other.

A lot of the relationship-y subs are like that. You'll read a comment thats like "My BTF was ODJ and I wasn't sure what to do so I MPOK and now I think we're gonna have to GJRWSH".

[u/byronmiller → u/ImmortalMoron3]

100%, also half of discourse on twitter back before it, yknow, became a fascist shit hole

[u/Nixavee → u/ImmortalMoron3]

My Boy-Type Friend was On Da Jury and I wasn't sure what to do so I Met Prostitutes On Kik and now I think we're gonna have to Get Jury Ready With Some Ho

[u/IceWellDo → u/byronmiller]

Nobody expects the electric fence!

[u/b3n_ja_m1n → u/jancl0]

Panic at the Disco's long song titles are mostly quotes from books and films. Fall Out Boy's are often jokes or play on words

[u/BaronAleksei → u/b3n_ja_m1n]

Lying and it’s better are two halves of the same quote

[u/Skoalmintpouches → u/b3n_ja_m1n]

Tell that Mick he just made my list of things to do today is a quote from Rushmore

[u/plannedobso → u/Skoalmintpouches]

So is “Sic Transit Gloria” (which is a Brand New song but still)

[u/WhapXI → u/jancl0]

Off the top of my head.

I Write Sins Not Tragedies

Lying Is The Most Fun A Girl Can Have Without Taking Her Clothes Off

The Only Difference Between Martyrdom and Suicide is Press Coverage

London Beckoned Songs About Money Written By Machines

From a Mountain in the Middle of the Cabins

There’s a Good Reason These Tables Are Numbered Honey, You Just Haven’t Thought Of It Yet(?)

I thought that last one ended “Figured It Out Yet” but I may be wrong

[u/mrharoharo → u/jancl0]

Perfect AIM status message length song titles.

[u/huntwhales23 → u/jancl0]

how about: The Black Hawk War, or, How to Demolish an Entire Civilization and Still Feel Good About Yourself in the Morning, or, We Apologize for the Inconvenience but You're Going to Have to Leave Now, or, 'I Have Fought the Big Knives and Will Continue to Fight Them Until They Are Off Our Lands!'

[u/m_ttl_ng → u/jancl0]

Brand New had some similar emo naming styles on Deja Entendu like "Okay I believe you, but my tommy gun don't" (OIBYBMTGD), or "Good to Know That If I Ever Need Attention All I Have to Do Is Die" (GTKTIIENAAIHTDID)

[u/cohonka → u/jancl0]

One of my favorite bands of the time, iwabo, I wrestled a bear once

[u/Yoshichu25]

I’m struggling to type this comment because the post made me laugh so much. This is without a doubt the funniest thing I’ve seen all month so far.

[u/nasjo → u/Yoshichu25]

me too friend, me too

EDIT: and I came across this while thinking to myself that reddit sucks and has nothing to give me anymore

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[u/RangisDangis]

Poor thing walked straight into wales 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[u/HereLiesLies → u/RangisDangis]

As a Welshman, this made me laugh

[u/Worried-Language-407]

Unfortunately these are all real FoB songs. Also unfortunately OOP is very much onto something which I hadn't really considered before.

I'm Like a Lawyer With The Way I'm Always Trying to Get You Off

"The Take Over, The Breaks Over"

I've Got All This Ringing in My Ears and None on My Fingers

Champagne for My Real Friends, Real Pain for My Sham Friends

Get Busy Living or Get Busy Dying (Do Your Part to Save the Scene and Stop Going to Shows)

I think these songs are all characterised by having interesting verse riffs but fairly bland chorus riffs. This sort of develops from the basic philosophy of verse-chorus music, which is that the chorus should have the highest energy of the whole song. In the 2000s this was broadly interpreted as being louder, or at least having more noise. For FoB, I think this is most obvious on ttotbo, where the chorus is definitely louder, there is an obvious sonic shift, but it actually gets less engaging.

[u/Psychotic_Ambition → u/Worried-Language-407]

listening to a good portion of infinity on high honestly makes me feel drowsy because of this. i have no idea how folie a deux got all the flack for years over this

[u/jakinatorctc]

Kind of funny I knew the song titles but I had to look up what album SRAR is referring to

[u/JOBThatsMe]

"Our Lawyers Made Us Change the Name Of This Song So We Wouldn't Get Sued" era

[u/Leftieswillrule]

Fall out boy predated shitty light novel culture of making the title an entire sentence.

[u/Strider794]

r/recontext

[u/LordZeus2008]

"the the start of the song"

[u/jhguitarfreak]

I have this problem with a lot of metal bands.

They'll have a really groovy thing going and/or some cool riffs then immediately stop the song cold for some music theory basics chord progression of a chorus. Like they couldn't come up with anything decent to fill it out so they took the cookie cutter approach.

Slipknot's Psychosocial comes immediately to mind.

[u/millionwordsofcrap]

Overuse of acronyms in fandom posts are my #1 pet peeve. Fully spell out the title the first time, then use the acronym from the second time onward.

Start doing this or I am personally coming to your house to shit on your doormat

[u/letmesleep]

The best thing about Fall Out Boy is you can always pretend their last recording came out in 2004.

[u/VoidStareBack → u/letmesleep]

TIL people apparently hate post-2004 fall out boy lol.

[u/BulbusDumbledork → u/VoidStareBack]

cork tree is just bangers

infinity on high has absolute hits

folie a duex has some of their best work

save rock and roll has strong moments

american beauty/american psycho

(so they had a strong showing for almost a decade more)

[u/AtticusIsOkay → u/BulbusDumbledork]

So Much (For) Stardust was a pretty solid comeback, at least. Heartbreak Feels So Good and The Kintsugi Kid are right up there with their best songs imo

[u/Blakers37 → u/AtticusIsOkay]

Yeah MANIA was fine, definitely a 6-7/10 imo, but So Much For Stardust is fantastic.

[u/devotfeige → u/Blakers37]

I regularly listen to their entire discography and I'm convinced that MANIA was necessary for So Much (For) Stardust to even exist the way it does. I don't know jack shit about music theory but there are some sounds in Stardust that I can feel in my bones evolved straight from MANIA, I just don't know how to articulate it.

SMfS is objectively a fucking banger of an album and anyone who says otherwise is just flat out lying to themselves.

[u/Redleadsinker → u/AtticusIsOkay]

I don't even go here (I was too much of a hipster to be into fallout boy when I was a teenager), but I happened to hear Love From the Other Side on the radio, had to look it up, and ended up falling in love with the whole album.

[u/Toiun → u/BulbusDumbledork]

They lost me with srar because it sounded like theatre rock not punk rock

[u/notevenkiddin → u/letmesleep]

Engrave on my tombstone, "The first two Fallout Boy albums were actually really good."

Underneath that, "Loving husband and father."

[u/astelda → u/notevenkiddin]

I think you mean: TFTFBAWARG,LHAF

[u/GuitarOrdinary3041 → u/notevenkiddin]

FIRST THREE

[u/Complete-Worker3242 → u/GuitarOrdinary3041]

So Much For Stardust, their most recent album, is also pretty good.

[u/Psychotic_Ambition → u/notevenkiddin]

three, thank you

[u/DakotaTheFolfyBoi → u/letmesleep]

Skipping over their two best albums lmao IOH and FAD are the best things they ever did

[u/letmesleep → u/DakotaTheFolfyBoi]

I realize people have other opinions. Mine is personally that I will listen to Take This to Your Grave and My Heart Will Always Be The B-Side. Plus Pax Am Days is cool but thats like a decade later.

[u/buffaloguy1991 → u/letmesleep]

Must have been some fallout to cause that statement boy

[u/ShepPawnch → u/letmesleep]

I would love to go see them in concert, as long as they didn’t play anything released after that date.

[u/AdvancedSandwiches → u/ShepPawnch]

Unfortunately, having seen them live, it's basically all the dance-y pop hits from later.

But Cork Tree was 2005, and it was wall to wall quality, so if they want to do a 22nd anniversary play through next year, I'm down. 

[u/Psychotic_Ambition → u/AdvancedSandwiches]

only one skip on that album and it’s mentioned in the post

[u/notevenkiddin → u/ShepPawnch]

I did see them in concert, right around that time, when they were still hardcore adjacent, at a club called Uncle Doctor's in NC. Great show, he climbed up the lights during Saturday and sang that whole screamy part at the end hanging upside down by his knees from the rafters.

[u/Itstoobrightinhere4r]

I am cackling in the middle of a packed gym

[u/DakotaTheFolfyBoi]

All those songs OOP listed are wonderful and I disagree with their opinion vehemently

[u/Ecsta-C3PO]

hangman.

[u/ztreHdrahciR]

Welsh version

[u/altcoopx]

As a diehard FOB fan I have to show everyone I love this post because it’s a perfect encapsulation of who I am. Thank you.

[u/ineedahugnow]

I used to think fallout boy was a solo artist who was just the Fallout Boy. But I also thought his tour bus exploded so he died, but thankfully they’re a band and they’re all alive so good for them 😊

[u/Psychotic_Ambition → u/ineedahugnow]

what?

[u/calvinman4]

Instantly iconic phrase. Every time one of my coworkers accidentally touches their yubikey and it sends like a 32 character string of gibberish, I hit em with the electric fence comment.

[u/BextoMooseYT]

And I thought acronyms for taylor swift songs were confusing. Definitely checks out tho, they be naming their songs shit like "Knock Knock, Who's There, Orange, Orange Who, My World Is Burning And The Sky Is Orange"

[u/Ill_Radio8160]

I recognized every single one instantly. Shit hit me like a winter soldier activation.

[u/reanocivn]

i thought this was gonna be a joke about how you can never figure out what words patrick stump is singing

[u/rowan_damisch → u/reanocivn]

I'm pretty sure he's doing that on purpose so no one can use it against him when he gets the lyrics wrong during concerts

[u/CrusaderReynaulder]

“Sure I could just type “I’m like a lawyer,” and people’ll have some clue of the song I’m talking about…Nah, I have to take the time learn to type out some incomprehensible code just to still type it slower.”

[u/BoggyDectiard]

Good joke, but electric fences send pulses. 90% of the time you can touch them without receiving a shock, and the shock only lasts a fraction of a second.

Anyway, still a good joke. I just also want people to understand what electric fences do.

[u/Castriff]

It was a language barrier.

[u/ADepressedthr0waway]

To shreds you say?

[u/Secret-Spray-2228]

Fall Out Boy is one of my favourite bands ever, but I get what they mean. I have the same issue with Paramore songs.

[u/ChampinionCuliao]

takes so bad they make me forget pete wentz is a creep

[u/Psychotic_Ambition → u/ChampinionCuliao]

takes so GREAT they make me forget pete wentz is a creep

[u/awfuckimgay]

I fucking hate myself for being able to parse these, some with a bit of thought, but,,,, that was unpleasantly quick

[u/HappyyValleyy]

Reminds me of when people try to abreviate song names on the will wood sub. No one knows what MTYFTDBINYTL means just call it the Marsha song or something

[u/sharnkazz]

pspspspsps

[u/BandicootCool6277]

i think if you have an album like SRAR in your discography, maybe it’s possible that the choruses in your other albums don’t shine as much, because that album is notoriously loaded with poppy hooks. but, in my opinion, Folie a Deux is just as good in that category, if not better, because of the superior writing and musicality.

[u/Psychotic_Ambition → u/BandicootCool6277]

that’s why no Folie a Deux songs were mentioned

[u/marfacza]

Anyone else play this game?

[u/GoodGoneGeek]

Aw, I’m Like a Lawyer is one of my favorites off Infinity

[u/IIPotatoMasterII]

Does anyone else like taoctgtcpyemiyelwyaoasodntitgsotftsapdgctintftotswcptotfoaitlasoaiimtiattibacowysoluywitapiykwsyolgptotlpewiocdyhamlydwrwhosotrwtgykwnifwgdiakttstwscaiicshte?

[u/Electronic-Tooth5405]

not liking the I'm like a lawyer chorus is a fucking total skill issue lmao

[u/Sonuva_Gun]

i was already having a hard time figuring out srar...

[u/an_agreeing_dothraki]

Fallout Boy in a nutshell: "This actually seems alright I don't know why they're-" listens to lyrics "oh"

[u/jk1rbs → u/an_agreeing_dothraki]

https://www.xkcd.com/97/