r/PoursTea • u/political-snark • 5h ago
Storm In A Teacup đ” The evolution of the presidency
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u/Ok_Star_4136 Royal Watcher 5h ago
Vote for a potential 5k from the U.S. government, and there will literally be no recovery from that. Every future election will be "won" in the same way until the treasury is emptied. I mean, assuming you weren't already alarmed by Trump's blatant attempt to buy voters, this should still alarm you. There is literally only one way you can vote for the future of our country. The alternative is not a vote for our future at all because there will be no future.
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u/Full-District- 5h ago
What do you call $40 Trillion in debt other than an empty Treasury?
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u/my_little_throwny 5h ago
Theres always a new rock bottom...
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u/carlnepa 5h ago
Class speaks for itself, TrumpStein speaks for himself and MAGA and his Repugnicant enablers. All heads must roll this November 3rd.
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u/Ok_Star_4136 Royal Watcher 5h ago
I suppose there is no point to saying that we're already fucked other than to say, let's not be more fucked than we're already fucked. What else can I say? Hope is the last thing to die.
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u/still-waiting2233 5h ago
When you owe the bank 100k it is your problem⊠when you owe them 100 million itâs their problem
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u/Casingdacat 2h ago
I call it being perilously close to defaulting on the debt because we canât even afford to pay the interest on it.
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u/Totorotextbook 5h ago
There will never be a 5K and anyone who actually believes that needs to stop huffing Trumpâs diaper.
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u/No-Letter341 4h ago
I almost want them to win so they have to be held accountable for the 5k payout and watch the excuses they make to avoid it
Of course though, when they lose thats gonna be a talking point "oh well we would've gave you $5k but clearly the democrats hate you so much that they dont want you to have $5k"
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u/Just_Cartographer258 5h ago
It blow inflation out the roof.. derp derp MAGA will pay that 5 grand ten times over..
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u/Ill-Description3096 23m ago
"Buying" votes is nothing new. Whether it is directly or indirectly it's just how things work. "Vote for me and I will do X for you" is pretty much the baseline at this point.
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u/TheDownvoter85 5h ago
Or the illegals will just take it with fraud schemes.
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u/Hatshepsut99 5h ago
lol or Trump was lying, just like he does about everything. Spoiler alert: Trump and his merry band of morons cost taxpayers a hell of a lot more than illegals.
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u/Ok-Cardiologist-6707 4h ago
Did some podcaster trying to get views tell you that story? Meanwhile, Trump has pardoned dozens of actual giant fraudsters who paid him off with a donation, scamming millions of people out of hundreds of millions of dollars. Still no evidence or arrests coming out of all those stories of immigrant fraudsters Nick Shirley invented, however. Because theyâre telling you want you want to hear, not reality.
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u/thehorrorcontinues13 5h ago
Kennedy, despite his faults, had class. Trump has no class and is all faults.
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u/Substantial_Pace_739 5h ago
He really couldnât be more of a pos if he tried.
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u/RVtech101 5h ago
lol, he could be a rapist, have a porn star mistress and 34 criminal felony convictions. Oh, wait, trumps a pos without trying.
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u/T4TrhavrKhcFt 5h ago
"America isn't the way it is because he's president. He's president because of the way America is." - David Cochran - Canadian Journalist
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u/Low-Essay-113 Tea Queen đ 5h ago
The single most divisive president in the history of the us.
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u/TheLastHotstepper 5h ago
/s yeah
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u/Low-Essay-113 Tea Queen đ 5h ago
/s no
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u/TheLastHotstepper 5h ago
Abraham Lincoln or Donald Trump are easily ahead of him, considering one caused a civil war and the other one wants to destroy america and half the country is against it.
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u/Low-Essay-113 Tea Queen đ 5h ago edited 4h ago
First off Iâm talking about Trump. And Please please pick up a history book.
After Abraham Lincoln won the presidential election, his opposition to the expansion of slavery prompted several Southern states to secede and form the Confederate States of America. The war officially began when Confederate forces opened fire on the federal garrison at Fort Sumter in Charleston, South Carolina, on April 12, 1861. Confederates started the civil war because they didnât want to have to follow the new law of not being allowed to own slaves.
Divisive things Trump has said
Trump published social media posts labeling Democrats and specific leaders like Chuck Schumer as "human garbage"
Trump called domestic political opponents and Democrats "the enemy from within" (it really does not get more on the nose divisive than that)
Trump asserted that Democrats "hate the country" and are actively "destroying our country" through their policies
Trump on Jan.6 told the crowd to âfight like hell because if you donât you wonât have a country anymoreâ moments before they marched onto the capitol building and attempted to violently halt the democratic process. (Again really canât get more on the nose divisive)
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u/Full-District- 5h ago
I blame Newt Gingrich and the conservative media machine.
It's destroyed any semblance of critical thinking the average voter may have had at one point. All they know is "Me - Good, You - Evil".
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u/EdlynnTB 5h ago
De-evolution
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u/npacilio 5h ago
For both sides
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u/Hatshepsut99 5h ago
um, no democratic president or even any democratic politician has ever been as dumb or corrupt as Trump, so not sure where youâre getting this both sides bs.
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u/npacilio 4h ago
Jimmy Carter was a terrible president
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u/psilocin72 3h ago
Did he ever say he was going to shove anything up anyoneâs ass? Or any of the crude, crass, coarse, callous shit Trump has said?
No. He was a decent man. Unlike this current president.
You could want your son to grow up and be like Carter. Anyone who wants their kid to be like trump should not be a parent.
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u/npacilio 2h ago
Want my son to be like Carter? Didnât he get punked by Iran the whole time he was in office?
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u/Silent-Obligation-49 5h ago
The US is the laughing stock of the world.
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u/TheDownvoter85 5h ago
yet they would all chose to live here if they could.
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u/Hatshepsut99 5h ago
lol spoken like so one whoâs never left their shitty hometown. Ive traveled all over the world for work and vacation, visited every continent besides Antarctica, and I promise you, the overwhelmingLu. ast majority of people in the world do not want to live here right now.
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u/psilocin72 3h ago
Yeah they watch their propaganda ânewsâ networks and believe everything that is said because it makes them feel better about themselves.
Please believe that the majority Americans donât think like that. We see that the world is repulsed by what they see in America right now.
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u/Sir_Chaddeus 4h ago
Lol no, you smooth-brain. I'm perfectly fine where I am.
If I had to move to another country, America would be near the bottom of the list.
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u/Senor_Federigo 5h ago
I'd sooner choose to live in Black Plague era Europe than your crass, imperialist cesspool of a country.
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u/Redbeardthe1st 4h ago
JFK was partly right and partly wrong. You should ask what you can do for your country, but you should also ask what your country can do for you. There needs to be a balance between Individualism and Collectivism. Too much Individualism hurts the rest of society, and too much Collectivism lets people fall through the cracks.
A healthy society needs everyone contributing to the common good, but Society needs to take care of everyone so they can continue to contribute.
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u/rt590 5h ago
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Use your state link as a reference but lookup your specific county for a potentially closer polling location
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u/Current-Square-4557 5h ago
JFK wanted to show how the U.S. treats its allies so he said âIch bin ein Berliner.â
DJT wanted to show how the U.S. treats its allies so he said, âwe could quickly win a war with Alaska and make it a state.â
Both sides are NOT the same.
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u/amalgaman 5h ago
You donât even have to go back that far. Literally just look at Joe, Obama, or even W.
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u/Leaislala 4h ago
Did he really say that? I mean I shouldnât be surprised but why does he have to be so vulgar. Itâs just so base
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u/psilocin72 3h ago
Thatâs what his supporters want. Someone just as crude and disgusting as they are. So they can feel better about themselves.
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u/enditorbuyacoffee 4h ago
As someone watching and voting in the last 40 years of US politics I don't like either of those quotes.
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u/Some-Tear3499 4h ago
Sometimes things get posted about Trump for which there is no legit source to back it up.
But here it is.
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u/King_Fisher99 1h ago
"Show me a man that gets rich by being a politician, and l'll show you a crook."
-Harry S. Truman
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u/rflulling 5h ago
Some ask for unity as a country. Loyalty only to the country.
Some demand division and unity from the party. Demand loyalty over country.
One need only look at the 70s to see how history is right this moment repeating. New men, same messages.
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u/Separate-Pickle9963 5h ago
Yeah. JFK did erode the presidency by setting the precedent of a highly polished playboy presidency where image was elevated to the status of substance in a way even exceeding what former presidents had done. We ARE still paying for that.
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u/Sir_Chaddeus 4h ago
Big mouth, humongous ego, not an ounce of class.
He truly represents his average supporter.
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u/mournthologist 3h ago
Ask not what you can do for your country, but what your country is doing for you!(after all they are being paid to do this with our tax dollars). Always hated the original quote.
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u/ericsonofbruce 2h ago
I love jfk, but my country has to do something for me to compel me to do something for it.
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u/Casingdacat 2h ago
How can my fellow Christians even support this guy? How many cheered when he said this?
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u/fladivebum 1h ago
Politics at the presidential level (while not always being civil), have usually made strides for bipartisan agreements for the general (although special interest groups still purchased a lot of the winning parties support), however, to be that kind of megalomaniac, you've either got no intelligence or lack of humanity. Either way:
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u/stx06 5h ago edited 3h ago
One is more polite than the other, but is there really a difference in the message?
A country is supposed to function on behalf of the people, if "your country is not doing actions for you," what the heck is the point?!
Edit: Sorry for any confusion, this was in regard to how I have seen JFK's quote used today, which has citizens doing all the work for the country to not give anything back, as opposed to the original context, which would have placed it in direct to opposition to what is going on today.
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u/Lejandario_IN 5h ago
You can't be serious. You're saying you can't see the difference between "ask yourself what you can do for the betterment of everyone" vs "vote for me and my team, we're gonna be the winners and shove it in those losers faces"?
No wonder that idiot won if some people are willfully blind and deaf to what he's saying
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u/stx06 5h ago
With the way the quote gets used in isolation? Sure, I can!
That is the one bit I always see quoted, no use of:
"We dare not forget today that we are the heirs of that first revolution. Let the word go forth from this time and place, to friend and foe alike, that the torch has been passed to a new generation of Americans â born in this century, tempered by war, disciplined by a hard and bitter peace, proud of our ancient heritage â and unwilling to witness or permit the slow undoing of those human rights to which this Nation has always been committed, and to which we are committed today at home and around the world."
It has taken on an unfortunate connotation, where the average person is stuck in an all give, but not take relationship with the government, where people get mad that their taxes are used to better anyone in the country, even themselves, but bombing the oblivion out of other people is treated as normal business.
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u/psilocin72 3h ago
I wonder if some right wing news guy said thisâ that both are the sameâ because Iâve seen 3 comments now saying thereâs no difference.
In reality thereâs virtually no similarity.
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u/dietitianmama 5h ago
Kennedy gave that speech at his presidential inauguration. It wasnât a campaign speech.
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u/Appropriate_Will_154 5h ago
âYou ainât black if you donât vote Democrat.â
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u/psilocin72 3h ago
Have nothing but distractions and finger pointing. Never a solid defense of your guy.
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u/Appropriate_Will_154 3h ago
Not a defense. Just keeping it relative. Youâre upset at a guy telling his base to partake in the democratic process and then end it with a crass line. Really nothing wrong with that. Yet youâre âvote blue no matter whoâ is a white guy essentially taking away POC agency by telling them how to vote
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u/psilocin72 3h ago
No. Iâm not. Iâm not a democrat. I can just see how disgusting and low this is.
If you canât see why that language shouldnât be used by a president, thatâs a problem.
And Iâm not thinking about Biden. That was a long time ago. Trump is president now.
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u/Apprehensive_Ad4457 5h ago
Kennedy was shot and Trump was winged.
gotta say, it's hard to say which was better.
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u/Agent847 5h ago
The irony here is that todayâs Democrat party is the literal inversion of Kennedyâs speech. Itâs all about what the government is going to do for you: free education, paid off student loans, free healthcare, affordable housing, price fixing, and punishing people they donât like.
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u/Hatshepsut99 5h ago
the government is us, genius. We just want the taxes we already pay (and pay more of than loser red states, fyi) to pay for things that will actually make our lives better instead of throwing a trillion dollars at the military so they can murder more little Iranian schoolgirls. Not having to sell your house to lay for cancer treatment is not a big ask anywhere else in the world.
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u/Agent847 4h ago
The fact that you think the government is YOU is the problem. Itâs not. And for the entirety of human history, it never has been. Power doesnât give two flying shits about you. So keep hoping it will do things for you.
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u/psilocin72 3h ago
No you are the problem. Just because people take over and abuse a system, that doesnât mean give up and hand it over to them. In America, we really can take it back.
But so many people like you are so quick to just say everything is hopeless.
The money we pay runs the government. We have every right to expect it to work for us. Or the alternative is to just say nothing is worth trying for.
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u/psilocin72 3h ago
Nah. No one is talking about âfreeâ anything except republicans misrepresenting the left.
People know that nothing is free. We want our tax money to work for common people. I donât think thatâs too much to ask.
We are already paying the money. We want it used for things that help us. Why would you not want that?
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u/discordianofslack 1h ago
Yea imagine getting something for your tax dollars other than enriching some conman.
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u/Grelueen 4h ago
I think both presidents shown represent the US population perfectly at the time they were in office. The population has simply changed over the last 60 years.
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u/psilocin72 3h ago
Trump doesnât represent me or the people I know and respect.
Yeah lots of people share his depravity. But absolutely not representative of the American population.
A sizable minority are as low as he is, but to say he ârepresents the population perfectlyâ is not correct
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u/No-Longer_Me 2h ago
Posting a ruthless philanderer, next to a ruthless philanderer, doesnât really make the point youâre trying to make.
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u/mars_soup 5h ago
Didnât JFKâs VP go around the White House whipping his dick out to show the staff and reporters?
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u/TheLastHotstepper 5h ago
Unknown: "She used to be great, she's still very beautiful."
Trump: "I moved on her actually. You know she was down on Palm Beach. I moved on her, and I failed. I'll admit it. I did try and fuck her, she was married."
Unknown: "That's huge news there."
Trump: "No, no, Nancy. No this was [inaudible] and I moved on her very heavily in fact I took her out furniture shopping. She wanted to get some furniture. I said I'll show you where they have some nice furniture. I moved on her like a bitch. I couldn't get there and she was married. Then all-of-a-sudden I see her, she's now got the big phony tits and everything. She's totally changed her look."
Bush: "Your girl's hot as shit. In the purple."
Multiple voices: "Whoah. Yes. Whoah."
Bush: "Yes. The Donald has scored. Whoah my man."
Trump: "Look at you. You are a pussy."
Bush: "You gotta get the thumbs up."
Trump: "Maybe it's a different one."
Bush: "It better not be the publicist. No, it's, it's her."
Trump: "Yeah that's her with the gold. I better use some Tic Tacs just in case I start kissing her. You know I'm automatically attracted to beautiful... I just start kissing them. It's like a magnet. Just kiss. I don't even wait. And when you're a star they let you do it. You can do anything."
Bush: "Whatever you want."
Trump: "Grab them by the pussy. You can do anything."
Bush: "Yeah those legs. All I can see is the legs."
Trump: "It looks good."
Bush: "Come on shorty."
Trump: "Oh nice legs huh."
Bush: "Get out of the way honey. Oh that's good legs. Go ahead."
Trump: "It's always good if you don't fall out of the bus. Like Ford, Gerald Ford, remember?"
[As Mr Trump attempts to leave the vehicle he struggles with the door]
Bush: "Down below, pull the handle."
[Mr Trump exits the bus and greets actress Arianne Zucker]
Trump: "Hello, how are you? Hi."
Zucker: "Hi Mr Trump. How are you?"
Trump: "Nice seeing you. Terrific. Terrific. You know Billy Bush?"
Bush: "Hello nice to see you. How are you doing Arianne?"
Zucker: "I'm doing very well thank you. [Addressing Trump] Are you ready to be a soap star?"
Trump: "We're ready. Let's go. Make me a soap star."
Bush: "How about a little hug for the Donald, he's just off the bus?"
Zucker: "Would you like a little hug darling?"
Trump: "Absolutely. Melania said this was okay."
Bush: "How about a little hug for the Bushy, I just got off the bus? Here we go, here we go. Excellent."
[Mr Bush gesticulates towards Ms Zucker as he turns to Mr Trump]
Bush: "Well you've got a good co-star here."
Trump: "Good. After you. Come on Billy, don't be shy."
Bush: "Soon as a beautiful woman shows up he just, he takes off. This always happens."
Trump: "Get over here, Billy."
Zucker: "I'm sorry, come here."
Bush: "Let the little guy in there. Come on."
Zucker: "Yeah, let the little guy in. How you feel now, better? I should actually be in the middle."
Bush: "It's hard to walk next to a guy like this."
Zucker: "Wait. Hold on."
[Ms Zucker changes position and walks between the two men]
Bush: "Yeah you get in the middle. There we go."
Trump: "Good. That's better."
Zucker: "This is much better."
Trump: "That's better."
Bush: "Now if you had to choose, honestly, between one of us. Me or the Donald, who would it be?"
Trump: "I don't know, that's tough competition."
Zucker: "That's some pressure right there."
Bush: "Seriously, you had to take one of us as a date."
Zucker: "I have to take the Fifth [Amendment of the US Constitution] on that one."
Bush: "Really?"
Zucker: "Yep. I'll take both."
[They reach the end of the corridor]
Trump: "Which way?"
Zucker: "Make a right. Here we go."
Bush: "Here he goes. I'm gonna leave you here. Give me my microphone."
Trump: "Okay. Okay. Oh, you're finished?"
Bush: "You're my man. Yeah."
Trump: "Oh. Good."
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u/mars_soup 4h ago
Didnât read all of that, but was it a âyes, he whipped his dick outâ, or ânoâ?
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u/TheLastHotstepper 4h ago
It highlights your faux outrage. If its only a problem when the "other side" do it, then its clearly not an actual problem to you.
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u/mars_soup 4h ago
Who said anything about sides? Am I right?
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u/TheLastHotstepper 4h ago
It highlights your faux outrage. If its only a problem when the "other side" do it, then its clearly not an actual problem to you.
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u/SeniorHope841 5h ago
He wasnât facing a midterm election he was covering for a foiled Cuban invasion. It was a good written speech. Itâs a shame the Dems took him out as well.
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u/FrontMaleficent6788 5h ago
Yeah nobody does anything anymore lazy kids need everything given to them
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u/jfkrfk123 5h ago
JFK had a couple dings on his file
And he didnât write that speech. ;)
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u/psilocin72 3h ago
Anything to avoid thinking about Trump. Thereâs literally no defense for that crude, disgusting guy
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u/jfkrfk123 3h ago
I hear ya but Reddit is not the place to go if youâre truly trying to avoid thinking about that guy..
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u/psilocin72 2h ago
I usually do alright because I mute anything that promotes him or draws me into the hate of him. Then this comes up and I let myself fall inâŠ
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u/jfkrfk123 2h ago
I read once that the Kennedy campaigns skirted campaign finance rules by giving the Catholic Church 1,000,000 dollars of which the church would return to the family 900,000$ to be used under the radar to help Jack get elected.. probably common practice in politicsâŠ. Then and now. Potentially
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u/GrampaDoohickey 5h ago
Same message, different dialect
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u/psilocin72 3h ago
Howâs it the same message? I donât get it.
Ask what you can do for your country vs ⊠shove it up their ass. Thatâs not the same.
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u/GrampaDoohickey 3h ago
Voting steers the country. It impacts our future. That's the same result Kennedy was steering towards. Shoving it up the Democrats ass is just icing on the cake.
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u/psilocin72 3h ago
Ok so the message isnât the same. The goal is. The message used to try to reach that goal is very different because the people who are persuaded to vote for each of these guys are very different.
One group wants uplifting language about a unified country. The other wants to shove things up peoples asses.
Disgusting
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u/GrampaDoohickey 2h ago
When Democrats are embracing socialism/communism diplomacy and genteel grammar are out the window. It's bare knuckle boxing moving forward
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u/B1GD8A 5h ago
that's after trump said to cheat like hell at another rally too.