r/SipsTea • • 9h ago

SMH Thoughts on this?

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u/djfishfingers 9h ago

If you're buying cars that die at 70k miles, you're either buying the wrong cars or don't take care of them. With the modern technology in engines, they don't die that fast anymore.

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u/sherzer7 9h ago

GM is having massive engine failures on the 6.2. Even the replacement engines are failing. Modern engines can be terribly designed

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u/djfishfingers 8h ago

Is that the normal though? I'm not saying 0 cars don't have engine failure by 70k miles. But it's absolutely not the expected life of a modern engine.

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u/Minute-Pomelo9302 8h ago

Plot twist: it is

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u/djfishfingers 8h ago

You just saying so doesn't making it true.

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u/16BitGenocide 4h ago

GM's 6.2L L87 is notoriously failure-prone. There's literally a recall covering potential catastrophic engine failure that affected almost 600k vehicles.

Sources-

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a73497654/nhtsa-investigation-general-motors-v8-failures/

https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/rcl/2025/RCRIT-25V274-6343.pdf

https://carbuzz.com/gm-l87-v8-engine-failure-nhtsa-investigation-august-2026/

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u/djfishfingers 4h ago

Sure. 600k vehicles. But one, it's a recall so you get your engine fixed/replaced FOR FREE. That means your car still lasts longer than 70k miles. Secondly, that's 600k out of millions of cars produced every year.

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u/16BitGenocide 4h ago

Didn't know those goalpost had recalled engines in them, that's neat.

Theseus's Silverado has entered the chat.

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u/djfishfingers 4h ago

It's not moving goalposts to say a car doesn't die at 70k miles because the company FIXES the issue that might cause it to fail.

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u/16BitGenocide 4h ago

Yeah, you are.

You're also saying that an engine that is known to catastrophically fail, but gets replaced under warranty somehow negates that initial catastrophic failure (I'm not 100% sure you understand what that phrase means).

You're confusing repairability with reliability. Nobody wants their fucking 90-125k SUV recalled. Losing your primary driver or family vehicle for several days to a week or more is a pretty big issue for most families. It's not an oil change, it's not an oopsy I scratched the paint, it's a fucking engine swap (and a post production engine swap at that). I've actually been through this before, and it took FOURTEEN service appointments to make it right.

Just because the cost is nothing, doesn't mean there isn't any inconvenience. If you're paying that much money for a top trim SUV, I don't think 'not wanting any recalls' is a high bar.

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u/Minute-Pomelo9302 4h ago

Except the dealer service is pretty dogshit. And Stellantis product is no better.

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u/djfishfingers 4h ago

Every recall I've ever done with a GM detail has been perfectly adequate. YMMV.

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u/jereezy 6h ago

GM and Ford are both hot garbage. Chrysler DaimlerChrysler Stellantis is a total shitshow.

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u/thatsthey1 8h ago

Definitely an outlier situation. An engine dying under warranty just doesn’t happen on the regular these days

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u/sherzer7 8h ago

I’ll give some more examples, Cummins switched the push rod design in 2019 and it’s still a massive issue because of the poor design. Toyotas newest V6 has issues with the oil paths clogging because they are so small.

Theres a big change in the auto industry with engine design in the past 6 years. Thinner oils are blamed for bad engineering. This is happening to keep up with the latest CARB requirements. Auto industry isn’t going to make separate cars just to sell in CA so they all are held to their standards

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u/thatsthey1 7h ago

You are probably talking about 1% of all engines created during that period and two manufacturers GM and Toyota. Cars are more reliable and last longer than they ever have.

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u/sherzer7 6h ago

You can check NHTSA, there were a few bad years across the board for all manufacturers in the last 20 years but the last 5 have been really bad. 1% failure rate is terrible in manufacturing. GM 6.2 has a 3% which is extremely uncommon. A 1 in 33 chance to have an engine grenade it’s self off the lot is insane. Ford the past few years is notorious for updates bricking trucks. This was not an issue 10 years ago

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u/cleverkid 9h ago

There are plenty of late model engines that grenade. Plenty 

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u/M4ybeMay 9h ago

The entire post uses hyperbolic language throughout. Reading comprehension is dead

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u/thebipeds 8h ago

I can’t tell if they are trying to be ironic or not.

I just want ac, Bluetooth, backup camera… the basics. And the comments have other add ons.

My 40yo truck doesn’t have any of these. It does drive though.

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u/SuccessfulNinja3550 8h ago

Not even remotely true. 100k used to be a lot of miles on a car. Tons are going over 200k now. If you think cars are shit now, you’re just buying shit cars

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u/dannyheskett 8h ago

It's just not true. Cars built in 2025 are on average expected to stay on the road until 160,000 miles, a new record. This number has been steadily rising for two decades.

At same time, cars are safer and more efficient then ever. The average new car sold in the US has a 50k mile warranty, and will hold some residual value for 12-13 years.

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u/djfishfingers 8h ago

The average car, or it's engine, does not die put by 70k miles. I will gladly change my opinion if you can provide solid evidence.

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u/vulpinefever 7h ago edited 7h ago

Not pictured: the 75%+ of the same year make and model sitting in junkyards.

They made hundreds of thousands of these things every year. You have one of them. The rest didn't survive.

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u/vulpinefever 6h ago

Not doing much to escape the Mercedes owner stereotype there, bud.

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u/vulpinefever 6h ago

I hate to break it to you but you're also a Redditor. If you haven't noticed.

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u/Kingsayz 8h ago

If you buy 2.0l with 8 turbos because you like the horsepower number then sure, they are shit but anything sensible is absolutely reliable. I've seen 1.0 TSI putting up 700k+ km numbers, just dont abuse them and maintain your fucking cars

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u/951frisky_dingo 9h ago

Or still buying GM. I work in construction so we put about 20000 miles on our trucks a year. Guess which guys always have their trucks right away in the shop.

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u/djfishfingers 8h ago

I drove my Chevy Cruze for 160k miles before a major repair. I buy chevy and I have never regretted it.

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u/RelevantCockroach791 7h ago

That is just so wrong. The emissions standards are killing modern engines, especially diesel engines.

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u/Doggoneshame 7h ago

Nor rust out like they used to.

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u/Channel_Huge 4h ago

Nissans are notorious for transmission problems around 70k miles. Some are better now like the Pathfinder, but many have they shitty CVT…

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u/djfishfingers 4h ago

Again, you're buying the wrong car or not taking care of them. If you want to take a chance on a Nissan with notoriously bad transmission problems...that's a you problem.

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u/Channel_Huge 4h ago

Oh, I’m happy with my vehicles. I had a Nissan Rogue in the past and the trans blew. No fault of mine, it was just a crappy vehicle. Recall came out shortly after it happened.

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u/TapeDaddy 8h ago

I was happy with a naturally aspirated 1.8 liter shitbox that would go for 200,000 miles as long as there was oil in it.

I don’t want an extra 4 MPG if I have to buy a turbocharged go-kart that’s going to explode at 50k with normal use.

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u/djfishfingers 8h ago

Show me the evidence that "go karts" do that

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u/TapeDaddy 8h ago

You ever heard of the Ford 1.6

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u/RedditJumpedTheShart 3h ago

There were far more bad engine designs in the past.

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u/Minute-Pomelo9302 8h ago

Have you been sleeping under a rock?

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u/djfishfingers 8h ago

Why is no one bringing evidence?