r/news • u/Canadian-Man-infj • 1d ago
U.S. Coast Guard searching for missing Hamilton-based air ambulance with 6 passengers
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hamilton/hamilton-air-ambulance-missing-us-coast-guard-search-9.7368182807
u/SocialWinker 1d ago
Jesus, another crash this week?
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u/No-Definition1474 1d ago
I think the algos are all looking for air disasters because people have been reading about air disasters.
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u/SocialWinker 1d ago
It’s also just becoming a more common issue in medical transport in recent years.
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u/whatshamilton 1d ago
Where are the stats on that? I’d be curious about the data you’re seeing
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u/charliemom3 1d ago
did you see OverTheCandleStick's link?
https://www.annemergmed.com/article/S0196-0644(26)00096-X/fulltext00096-X/fulltext)145
u/Age_Correct 1d ago
It has? I work in aviation and almost every year forward there are less and less crashes including part 135 L.
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u/whatugonnadowhenthey 1d ago
People love to fear monger over aviation these days.
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u/Ares__ 1d ago
I would say the algorithms love to fear monger. These algorithms know that fear like this gets clicks and engagement so they just keep ramping it up. Its unsustainable.
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u/EndPsychological890 1d ago
It’s perfectly sustainable. It puts people in smaller and more alarmed little bubbles they afraid to leave so they only engage with society online. Its worked like an absolute charm.
Hell, many of my coworkers are terrified to go into the city they live outside of for fear of instant death, rape and robbery by African immigrants despite all the data showing they’re going to be fine. They work alongside people who actually live in the city but they don’t hear anything but what their algorithm tells them. People don’t even trust the people they trust more than they trust what a company like Meta or Bytedance or whatever tells them.
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u/AreWeNotDoinPhrasing 1d ago
Unsustainable? It’s working better and better every year. I’m curious to hear your perspective on how it’s going to crash or start being less effective or what have you.
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u/Age_Correct 1d ago
Yep its sad because you got people like captain Steve posting theory videos online before the bodies are even cold.
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u/Competitive-Fee6160 1d ago
one of the absolute worst youtubers. plenty of well deserved hate for him on r / aviation
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u/BenDover198o9 1d ago edited 1d ago
Exactly. Especially when they try to play political. It’s actually insane that people spread bs when the NTSB literally publishes the information. EDIT I love when my phone autocorrects the ntsb to brave so Poole don’t understand what I mean
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u/SocialWinker 1d ago
It seems to be a bit of recency bias, and my general orbit being a paramedic. The aeromed crashes get amplified a lot, and there was another one a few days ago, so it's extra fresh.
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u/RandomGirlName 1d ago
So you should delete that comment instead of letting people think it is accurate, right? Or at least edit in a correction.
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u/OverTheCandleStick 1d ago
Use Google and stop spreading this bullshit. I’m a paramedic too. Sitting in a helicopter.
https://www.annemergmed.com/article/S0196-0644(26)00096-X/fulltext
Fun fact. Look at the difference between ground and helicopter incidents….
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u/OverTheCandleStick 1d ago
No. No it hasn’t. Much the opposite. Any idea how many medical helicopters are in the sky right now?
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u/Sylvan_Strix_Sequel 1d ago
Yeah that's exactly the person you're replying to's point. We are getting fed air disaster stories we wouldn't otherwise because they play right now.
Crashes are NOT up, so please for the love of logic and decency stop lying.
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u/iupuiclubs 1d ago
Can you provide a source that airline fatalities are not up? I see no up to date sources on this, so where or why did you make this statement? Esp without sourcing? Because you didn’t?
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u/Dot_1X 1d ago
Same amount of crashes as always, just plane crashes are the news flavor of the week. Seriously look it up, the national news just doesn't report of them most of the time especially small planes and jets like this.
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u/BenDover198o9 1d ago
Exactly. People love to say “what is happening why are there so many more plane crashes than x years ago” even though when you show them the evidence they scoff and say nuh uh
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u/Drwildy 1d ago
Happens more often than you think.
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u/VanDenBroeck 1d ago
Many of the accident investigations that I worked on while at the FAA never made the news.
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u/i_am_carver 1d ago edited 1d ago
Why could these be happening? Why? We’ll never know.
Edit: struck a nerve lol
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u/PossibilityInside695 1d ago
...what? Pretty much all air crashes are investigated by the NTSB.
Looking at the rate of crashes per month... we arent seeing anything out of the ordinary.
The algos have just recently picked up on people reacting to aircraft crashes because of a recent, especially notable, one (the pilot attacking the other pilot) so they report it more.
Youre just seeing it more in the news, but the actual rates of crashes seem in line with the average
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u/DankVectorz 1d ago
They’ve always been happening you’re just hearing about it more often.
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u/bdh2067 1d ago
AND there are more flights every year
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u/ChefKugeo 1d ago
These aren't commercial flights, folks. They're small planes which historically have a history of crash.
The last commercial airline to crash in America for example, was in 2009.
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u/Dizzy_Leopard_2587 1d ago
Except the one that crashed into a helicopter above DC just last year right?
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u/PurplePango 1d ago
That American Airlines got taken out by the helicopter in DC very recently, I’d classify that as a crash
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u/gusterfell 1d ago
And the one that collided with a fire truck at LGA.
If we’re including cargo airlines there’s the Louisville and Miami accidents as well.
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u/sarhoshamiral 1d ago edited 1d ago
Can you show the stats about fatal crashes involving outside of general aviation (private pilots etc). I can only find them till 2024
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u/Fuzzy-Mud-197 1d ago
I found this which is interesting: https://jettly.com/post/us-commercial-airline-fatalities-by-year
And this one from the government:
https://www.bts.gov/content/us-general-aviationa-safety-data
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u/DVAoife420 1d ago
a day of the week? Orange rapist gutted the FAA. this is what all you fucks wanted with your hate
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u/SloppyJoesToe 1d ago
This was a Canadian plane coming from Bermuda. The US coast guard is aiding in the rescue. Go feed your cats and stfu.
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u/OrganicDigitalArt 1d ago
Wth do cats have to do with it? It's not the US's fault by any means just not following the cats thing lol
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u/SloppyJoesToe 1d ago
Meant to be a sad, lonely person jab.
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u/VanDenBroeck 1d ago
So, only sad lonely people have cats?
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u/SloppyJoesToe 1d ago
It was meant to be a jab. No need to be offended on the internet.
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u/AreWeNotDoinPhrasing 1d ago
You were literally trying to offend lol, don’t back down now that your weak attempt gets called out.
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u/SloppyJoesToe 1d ago
Back down? Im explaining myself. Comedy has to offend some people so that others get the shock value. It doesnt work without both elements. Go finish your chores so your mommy doesnt kick your adult ass out of her and her boyfriends camper.
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u/roamingroad174 1d ago
Explain to me how the gutted FAA caused a canadian registered plane to go missing less than a hour flight-time to its intended destination.
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u/Canadian-Man-infj 1d ago edited 1d ago
Hoping for the best and that this turns out to be a communication issue.
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u/funkoramma 1d ago
Again? We saw the Coast Guard searching for the crashed life flight helicopter off the coast of Catalina. Horrific.
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u/boo4884 17h ago
They’ve found debris from the plane 😢 https://www.cnn.com/2026/10/03/us/coast-guard-nantucket-missing-medical-transport-jet?cid=ios_app
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u/browsk 1d ago
Im starting to think our aviation field is falling apart
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u/awesomedan24 1d ago
Don't fall into the Availability Heuristic trap "I saw it in the news which means its happening all the time and more than usual"
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u/gmishaolem 1d ago
Don't fall into the dismissive complacency trap either. Even if it's not actually worse than usual, it's the perfect opportunity to assess something you weren't noticing and go "wait, this has been happening this whole time? that's bad".
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u/whatugonnadowhenthey 1d ago edited 1d ago
Why? Aviation fatalities are still incredibly rare and aviation is by far the safest form of transportation on a per mile basis. A few headline stories followed by fear mongering isn’t the “aviation field falling apart”. And to anyone disagreeing go look on a flight tracker website and see all the planes in the air right now. Odds are every single one of those flights will take off and land without issue day after day, flight after flight, 365 days of the year. If one out of 5.6 million crashing gives you distress, go to therapy.
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u/Deranged40 1d ago edited 1d ago
aviation is by far the safest form of transportation on a per mile basis.
Remember, this statistic is only true of US Commercial aviation. At any given time in the US, about 15-20% of the non-military craft that are airborne are commercial aircraft. The vast majority of airborne aircraft at any given time are general aviation craft. For every commercial airport in the US (about 5,000) there's 3 private airports (almost 15,000). (source: faa.gov)
The popular statistic you're mentioning is not true of general aviation. General aviation has hundreds of crashes with fatalities every single year and is statistically not as safe as driving an automobile. There are no years on record where no general aviation fatalities were recorded. 2024 recorded the fewest fatalities in the past 30 years, with just about 300 people dying in a plane crash.
And a side note: this aircraft was Canadian and crewed by Canadians, and I can't find any evidence that it had entered US air space on this particular trip, even though its destination was Boston
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u/cracked-tumbleweed 1d ago
Yes, this. There are plenty of YouTubers making bank off of the fatal mistakes of private pilots.
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u/TminusTech 1d ago
At any given time in the US, about 15-20% of the non-military craft that are airborne are commercial aircraft.
Uhhhh please provide a source.
For every commercial airport in the US (about 5,000) there's 3 private airports (almost 15,000).
You misread the FAA page, The FAA says there are about 5k public use facilities and 14.4k private use facilities. Public use does not mean commercial airport. There are about 500 commercial service airports in the US. Most of the 5k public are general aviation, so around 90 percent of airports in the FAA national airport system are general aviation airports.
I think the underlying issue is that people often conflate general aviation with commercial aviation when interpreting accident reporting.
General aviation has become progressively safer over time, but it is still substantially more dangerous than scheduled commercial flying. Because general aviation accidents make up a large share of aviation accident headlines, they can also distort the public perception of aviation safety as a whole.
The difficult part is that there is no especially good metric for the number of unique people who participate in general aviation each year. General aviation accounts for most individual civilian aircraft in the United States, but that does not mean most people who fly are using general aviation. Commercial aviation serves a vastly larger population: roughly 135 million U.S. adults take at least one commercial flight in a typical recent year.
At the same time, general aviation exposure is much more concentrated. Pilots, flight students, instructors, aircraft owners, and other regular participants are likely to fly far more frequently than the typical commercial passenger. So simply comparing the number of aircraft, accidents, or fatalities without accounting for the number of people involved and how much they actually fly can give a misleading picture. They are different categories of activity with very different risk profiles and very different populations using them.
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u/Deranged40 1d ago
Uhhhh please provide a source.
I literally did. From the FAA. Please, at least click the source provided before commenting further. This is as far in your comment as I read.
If you would like to provide information saying otherwise, feel free to.
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u/TminusTech 23h ago
I did click it. The FAA page you linked does not appear to support the claim that only 15–20% of non-military aircraft airborne at any given time are commercial aircraft.
It does contain the airport/facility numbers you cited, but those were also mischaracterized: the roughly 5,000 figure is public-use airports/facilities, not commercial airports. The number of commercial-service airports is closer to 500.
So if the 15–20% figure is somewhere on that FAA page, point me to the specific table or section, because I’m not seeing it. Otherwise, the link is not actually a source for that claim.
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u/Friendly-Profit-8590 1d ago
Though I agree most car crashes are non fatal. Plane crashes, though, are a different story
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u/pfft_master 1d ago
I don’t know the stats but we’ve all seen lots of stories the last fews years… Is it not possible that two things could be true: flying is incredibly safe compared to any other mode of transport AND plane incidents are on the rise? Again I don’t know the stats, but both could be true.
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u/troyunrau 1d ago
But they're not actually on the rise. The media coverage of them is on the rise.
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u/nittanyvalley 1d ago
It’s feels like the number of near misses and airline incidents due to humans not following established procedures is on the rise.
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u/SillyGoatGruff 1d ago
If you don't know the stats, why wade in with an opinion?
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u/pfft_master 1d ago
Because it is all just opinion or conjecture until facts are presented. That was my point.
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u/whatugonnadowhenthey 1d ago
Umm.. so go lookup the stats?
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u/iupuiclubs 1d ago
Did you go look up the stats to back your idea this is just from media exposure?
If you did you would see there are no up to date stats on this. So you just said all that as a feeling
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u/pfft_master 1d ago
I was suggesting that providing that data might help demonstrate your point better than just being a douche. But I don’t really care at all, douche away!
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u/whatugonnadowhenthey 1d ago
Google is free
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u/iupuiclubs 1d ago
There are no up to date aviation fatalities charts. Its not like FRED tracks it.
Google is free but you didn’t use it at all to actually see if what you’re saying made up in your head is correct.
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u/whatugonnadowhenthey 1d ago edited 1d ago
???? Every aviation incident large and small is investigated and tracked by the NTSB. I know you’re just trying to convince yourself aviation is dangerous but don’t be silly
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u/whatugonnadowhenthey 1d ago
And if you’re going to be one of those “erm source 🤓” children. The NTSB tracks all of this. I’m shocked you can’t find this. https://my.ntsb.gov/monthly
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u/pfft_master 1d ago edited 1d ago
Kind of funny you insist on NTSB in a thread about a Canadian plane coming from Bermuda that crashed in offshore waters. NTSB might not even lead or catalog this investigation.
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u/whatugonnadowhenthey 1d ago
So google ICAO and tell me if they say something different!
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u/MountainFriend7473 1d ago
Well with a lot of regulatory cuts in US and being asked to do more than one persons jobs more thank likely things get missed that are crucial
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u/FamiliarRip8558 1d ago
General Aviation has always been semi-dangerous but the numbers are climbing towards less and less deaths each year.
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u/HippyHopHopHop 1d ago
Omg look Americans having self awareness that they live is a craphole slave terrorist country
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u/omnipresent_sailfish 1d ago
Unless the Bermuda Triangle now extends all the way up to Massachusetts…no
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u/cookiekimbap 1d ago
If this is Hamilton, Bermuda, we don’t really have planes missing from Bermuda to US. This is a common flight path and really shocking as much as people make fun of the Bermuda Triangle. It’s not real and this is really awful. Not something we are joking about on the island. Many of use take flights to the east coast quite regularly, esp for medical purposes.
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u/Tribe303 1d ago
The plane, 2 pilots, and 2 medical staff are Canadian. The patient and a family member are American. It flew from Canada to Bermuda to pick them up as a private charter, and disappeared near Boston, the destination. No politics please, but there were no American planes available? All down the East Coast of the US?
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u/frontdeskyyc 1d ago
Who cares where the planes are from? Is this supposed to insinuate if it were American planes flown by American pilots this wouldn’t have happened? If yes, that’s an absurdly ridiculous take and your ignorance is on full display.
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u/Tribe303 1d ago
Because this thread is full of people whining about the state of Aviation in the US.
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u/frontdeskyyc 1d ago
To be fair, people are complaining about the state of the US generally, because it’s a dumpster fire. If you don’t know that, you’re living under a rock or contributing to its down fall. I’m going to guess it’s the latter.
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u/Tribe303 1d ago
I'm very well aware that the US is a dumpster fire. I live in the real world where facts matter, and other than the destination, the US is not really involved in this. I now suspect that the patient and family were Bemudans or tourists.
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u/frontdeskyyc 1d ago
Well in that case, the FACT is they chose a Canadian company for this. Full stop. Any other surmising is in bad faith, nor relevant.
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u/OfficialUberZ 1d ago
Probably just wondering why a Canadian plane was taking American patients to an american hospital from a place that is south of mainland america rather than an american one.
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u/frontdeskyyc 1d ago
Well, the most obvious answer would be it’s likely more financially viable given the lack of health care in the US. Insurance wise, the costs for a Canadian medical team are almost certainly less than they would be from an American company…because the American system is based on exploitation, not health care.
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u/Tiny-Atmosphere-8091 1d ago
If you’ve got private plane medical transport money then finances aren’t a factor.
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u/frontdeskyyc 1d ago
I think you’re a bit out of your depth of understanding how these things work.
The American couples insurance company chartered this plane on their behalf, they (the American insurance company) chose to use a non-American company. The most obvious reason for that is cost, not for the patient but for the insurance company.
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u/Tribe303 1d ago
Boston was the destination. 🤦
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u/frontdeskyyc 1d ago
Yes? And? My point still stands and yours still makes no sense - unless of course your insinuation is “Canada Bad. America Good.”
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u/Frosthound2115 1d ago
Yup that's exactly what people think, maybe fix that shit show country and president so people will trust you again 🤷🏻♂️ simple as that, how hard is that to realize😂 no one trusts the US anymore in anyway, even with something like this, you all brought this on yourselves
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u/bermyMD 1d ago
It’s not the army… planes/ pilots are multinational.
Also… not American patient.
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u/Tribe303 1d ago
The plane was registered in Canada, so it's Canadian. The pilots carry Canadian passports, they are Canadian. The passenger may not have been American I guess, but they weren't Canadian. I assumed they were American because that was the destination. North Carolina is closer to Bermuda, so why were they headed to Boston? If they were local Bemudans, I'd assume they would go to the closest US state for advanced medical care, and that ain't Boston!
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u/frontdeskyyc 1d ago
As an American, I wouldn’t expect you to understand how health care works, but it’s a bit shocking you’re so under informed on the predatory nature of American Health insurance companies. The answer to all of your questions is: it cost the insurance company less to do it this way, it doesn’t matter to them it’s not the most expedient option - it matters that it costs them the least amount possible.
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u/fetissimies 1d ago
The Bermuda triangle is no joke
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u/MzOpinion8d 1d ago
I had no idea the Bermuda Triangle extends to the Nantucket area of Massachusetts!
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u/RoadSmash 1d ago
Never fly on a helicopter
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u/AdjNounNumbers 1d ago
You could have clicked on the article and at least read the first sentence
ETA: I'm not going to down vote you regardless, though, since I agree with the sentiment
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u/Almost_A_Pear 1d ago edited 1d ago
Oh my god. Fuck I know the pilots. They are my friends from college and I trained with them. One posted on their story of just departing Bermuda. This is not how I wanted to find out
Edit: they are my friends. I’m choosing to believe the best until I hear otherwise