r/gaming • u/Asianboiforwhitedad • 10h ago

Kingdom Come Deliverance studio co-founder says a lot of RPGs are 'still games for teenagers,' and that he's 'tired of all the RPGs where you are this chosen one'

https://www.pcgamer.com/games/rpg/kingdom-come-deliverance-studio-co-founder-says-a-lot-of-rpgs-are-still-games-for-teenagers-and-that-hes-tired-of-all-the-rpgs-where-you-are-this-chosen-one/
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u/jl_theprofessor Switch 9h ago

What the fuck game is he talking about? It’s not Baldur’s Gate 3. It’s not Witcher 3. It’s not Expedition 33. It’s not Elden Ring. It’s not Final Fantasy VII. It’s not Persona.

Literally these games feature people of no renown, the rejects, and people victim to much larger forces. There’s no god choosing anyone here.

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u/LateStageBBQ 9h ago

Ehhhhh I think the idea that a reject who doesn’t matter is “chosen” to fight gods and save the world is precisely the template. Think Frodo. My dispute is that the hero narrative isn’t inherently adolescent. But E33, BG3 and FF7 all very much fall into the classic “hero’s journey” narrative that he’s critiquing.

AND THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT. Most games do.

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u/Lambeaux 6h ago

Final Fantasy 7 literally has you literally hand the world ender McGuffin to the villain, fail to save your damsel, and realize halfway through you are not the protaganist, because he died years ago, just some traumatized failure of a nobody. It's like a direct subversion of the chosen one and hero journey tropes.

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u/LateStageBBQ 6h ago

Actually, that’s an excellent point. It is the thing that it subverts for the most part - structurally, and for most of the narrative - but you ain’t wrong. Arguably, TW3 does something adjacent. Ultimately, you aren’t the most important character.

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u/Mitrovarr 4h ago

You didn't even achieve your dream of joining SOLDIER, you just got some of the power by literally falling into it. 

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u/Aromatic_Assist_3825 3h ago

Nah, Cloud is an archetype of the chosen one

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u/Magma_Axis 2h ago

How ? he is 3rd rate soldier reject