r/SipsTea • • 9h ago

SMH Thoughts on this?

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u/burge4150 9h ago edited 3h ago

I think there's room in the market for a back to basics car company that takes out all this bs, goes back to crank windows and all that crap and sells new vehicles for an affordable cost with a good warranty.

It would probably crush today.

Edit: I got like 400 responses saying "slate" ok I get it you can stop

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u/OkTemperature8170 9h ago

Same with appliances if you ask me. Why is my washing machine uploading data to the internet?

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u/nutkinknits 9h ago

We have a dehumidifier that can connect to WiFi. I think that's one of more strange wifi of things. Like how hard is it to set a humidity and then just empty the bucket a couple times a day. Maybe I just don't realize that it's a necessary feature but I've been emptying buckets for 18 years now and it's not a big deal. And now my husband hooked a hose to it so now I don't even need to empty a bucket, it just does it's job

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u/RhetoricalOrator 9h ago

Our attention spans are so low that we need reminders to dump the bucket on our phone because that's the only thing we pay attention to.

Unrelated, but I appreciate your comment because I actually need to empty mine now. I'd forgotten about it. We are averaging about five gallons a day produced in our bedroom right now!

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u/functional_moron 8h ago

Jesus dude. Do you live in a beaver dam?

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u/RhetoricalOrator 8h ago

A/C went out and it's gonna cost $9,000 to replace. I'm running fans in the windows and it's been rainy.

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u/tailkinman 8h ago

Where do you live, a steam factory!?

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u/RhetoricalOrator 8h ago

A/C went out and it's gonna cost $9,000 to replace. I'm running fans in the windows and it's been rainy. Super high humidity everywhere here now.

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u/nutkinknits 8h ago

Who needs wifi when you have reddit to remind you.

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u/LIONLDN 8h ago

Good point & same, gonna check mine now too, though ours only usually needs emptying once a week / every two weeks šŸ˜…

https://giphy.com/gifs/mDYLOFarCMbdoL0c4C

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u/HeKis4 7h ago

Alternatlively, you could just make the fing thing beep. If you're not in range of hearing a mildly loud beep and only get the notification from your phone, you're not in a position to do anything about a full bucket anyway.

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u/Soft-Sherbert-2586 7h ago

How is the water quality? šŸ˜‚ Could you drink it if you wanted to?

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u/RhetoricalOrator 5h ago

Honestly, since it condensates from a coil, bacteria growth should actually be a huge concern. Would be great if you had a limited water supply and you boiled it, though. Could keep the family alive for a while, anyway.

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u/Takara38 9h ago

Dehumidifiers that can connect to WiFi and Bluetooth were started for commercial use. It was so restoration companies wouldn’t have to go to a customer’s home or place of business just to monitor the equipment. They could see how the atmospherics were doing (RH, temp, grain depression, etc) from the company app.

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u/nutkinknits 8h ago

That makes complete sense. But for regular homeowner, it seem a bit unnecessary. Unless it's going in a crawlspace and in that case you want one specifically for that purpose.

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u/durrtyurr 5h ago

It's probably also a solid use case for caregivers taking care of elderly or disabled people.

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u/zbmcg 5h ago edited 5h ago

It's probably not necessary for home usage, but there are definitely commercial uses like for museums and things to be able to know remotely what the humidity is in a space.

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u/WambritaWings 4h ago

My dehumidifier is 46 years old (my parents got it when they got married). It has on/off and a big old square bucket. It's brown and orange. I bought a new one 5 years ago, it's already broken.

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u/Imsktn 2h ago

What I hate is that they could easily put a floor water sensor for the very very rare times of a leak & most don’t spend the money on that. Most connect just to harvest runtime data, use those metrics to make devices that barely cover those expectations.

We could easily be prioritizing repairability but these days you’ll almost never find a small humidifier/window a/c repair man. It’s ā€œcheaperā€ to buy the next worst version of what you had.

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u/Scuba9Steve 8h ago

Emptying a bucket a couple times a day fucking sucks. We have a dehumidifier in our crawlspace that works great. Its a pain in the ass to get to so I ran the hose outside same as your husband. Bluetooth/wifi is good for checking things but you also can just install a $10 themometer/hydrometer with Bluetooth so you can check period that the humidity is being maintained properly. If it’s easy to reach it’s whatever.

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u/bullitt-rider 8h ago

Heh I side with both of you. I buy dumb appliances and just slap a £6 WiFi plug on them.

Smart dehumidifier is a big one for me, but I'm in the UK so ehhh

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u/appointment45 7h ago

That condensation pump could use a wifi alarm, though, because if that stops the dehumidifier is just pumping water all over the floor until someone notices.

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u/My_Brain_0422 6h ago

Sometimes I get it. Busy people might forget their dehumidifier is full if it's out of sight. I have one in my basement that fills up twice per day so I think getting a notification could be helpful.

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u/demonlicious 6h ago

IF ONLY THEIR APP WASNT TERRIBLE AS WELL. ALL OF THEM.

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u/thought_youd_stop 6h ago

you empty a bucket a few times a day for 18 years? you never thought about setting up a hose that goes to a drain? lol.

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u/nutkinknits 5h ago

We didn't really have a drain set up and then we did some basement renovations and added a sump pump and he was able to direct the hose there. It honestly was no big deal. I'm down there switching laundry anyways or getting something from our freezers.

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u/LegendsoftheHT 3h ago

I'm 37 years old and just learned that people have dehumidifiers in their basements.

I thought she meant she had one in the actual living space and was confused how they drilled a hole in the wall to drain the thing.

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u/ZaerdinReddit 3h ago

Yeah, I was gonna say, just get one with a drain hose and then it just manages itself.

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u/streetberries 2h ago

They can be placed in a remote location with a drain and be run / monitored remotely. Usually the WiFi ones are heavier duty. Basic non-WiFi ones are everywhere for cheap

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u/DmYourTanLinesPls 9h ago

That's why I bought a speed queen from a laundromat that was going out of business. Gave a heavy wash and just pop a few quarters in it. Works like a dream. And there are lots of spare parts.

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u/s1ugg0 7h ago

I bought a Speed Queen residential washer and dryer on the recommendation from my buddy who is an appliance repair technician.

I'm on 5 years without a single issue. And I have two small kids. It gets used basically every 3 hours 7 days a week.

I'm so happy that I'm saving up to buy two of the Speed Queen washer/dryer combo units. And I'll likely be able to sell my washer and dryer to defer the costs because they'll still work great. No notes. I'll be a customer for life.

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u/lonelygayPhD 8h ago

When it was time for a new washer, we went with a Speed Queen. The last HE washer we had was a nightmare. This one is pretty much as basic as you can get, but it is tough and gets my laundry done in under 30 min.

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u/defconcore 8h ago

I mean they do make washing machines like that, look at Speed Queen. It's mostly mechanical, none of the extra electronics to break down

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u/bremsspuren 8h ago

These days, manufacturers appear to collect as much information as they can purely on general principle in the hope they'll be able to "monetise" it.

I wonder if the ongoing RAM price squeeze will encourage them to rethink putting so much computer hardware in newer models.

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u/Sacrefix 8h ago

Those still exist.

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u/memymomeddit 8h ago

why did you connect your washing machine to your network?

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u/OkTemperature8170 8h ago

I didn't, I just watch a lot of videos about privacy and one thing they found was that the washer was generating significantly more traffic than you would expect.

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u/Serious_Feedback 4h ago

Just wait until your washing machine automatically connects to your TV! Or if you don't have a TV, your neighbor's TV!

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u/tylerjehenna 7h ago

Why does a fridge need a smartphone on the door

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u/OkTemperature8170 7h ago

Just what you want, a fridge that reports back to Samsung all the items you have in it.

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u/8923ns671 7h ago

Because you chose to buy a washing machine that uploads information to the internet. You didn't have to, you chose to.

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u/OkTemperature8170 7h ago

I don't have one that does that, the comment is a hypothetical given the direction things are headed. There was a video about appliances that send data to the internet and a washing machine was sending WAY more data than made sense.

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u/CSDragon 6h ago

it needs a security update

why does it need a security update?

because it's connected to the internet

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u/PM_ME_DATASETS 6h ago

If you're american the answer is very simple; because of what the people voted for. The data your washing machine uploads generates profit for a certain family, the geriatric patriarch of whom is currently your president.

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u/Free-Pound-6139 6h ago

Why did you give it access to your wifi?

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u/Churlish_Performer 6h ago

To be completely fair all around here (tuh be faaaaaiiiiyyyy-uhhh) - there are appliances that are totally basic and last a really long time,Ā  and honestly? They're somehow more expensive e.g. speed queen washer and dryers

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u/GreatScottCreates 5h ago

They want you to get the app so they can collect data

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u/ZaerdinReddit 3h ago

To make the washing machine company more money.

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u/Alwayswondering8111 3h ago

Biggest scam ever is all these appliances with WiFi and Internet connection. Just a way for the appliance company to program in a shut-down when they feel like you should be making a new purchase.

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u/Miserable-Role9555 3h ago

Every major company makes appliances without smart features. I can go on amazon and buy one now and it would take 30 seconds max

If you can't figure out how to read the description of what you're buying, then thats a you problem

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u/PassPuzzled 3h ago

Capture and unencrypt those packets. Bet it's a micophone capturing audio

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u/OkTemperature8170 3h ago

You would need to write the encryption information to a file on the device that negotiated it. For example if you want to decrypt your own https packets on your own computer in wireshark you need to have chrome writing information about the encryption handshakes to a file that you then load in wireshark with the packet capture.

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u/PassPuzzled 3h ago

Well you clearly know more than I. Farthest I ever got was cracking my own wifi password lol. Then life

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u/OkTemperature8170 3h ago

Kali Linux? Or back when it was BackTrack?

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u/PassPuzzled 3h ago

Kali on a VM. Think I'm too young for backtrack lol

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u/OkTemperature8170 2h ago

When I moved from my home town and got my first apartment and was broke AF I hacked my neighbors WiFi. It had WPA encryption but had WPS enabled which was vulnerable. Took about 10 hours with my laptop and I still remember the password was vivahorchata.

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u/fourdoglegs 2h ago

Yep! I want my appliances simple, but I love having all the goodies in my truck….

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u/LetsTryAnal_ogy 1h ago

About a year ago, I was walking through Lowe's and a refrigerator was blasting Motley Crue. Why does a fridge need to play heavy metal?