r/ClevelandGuardians • • 4h ago

Discussion The 2024 Tigers Vs 2026 White Sox

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In 2024, the Detroit Tigers implemented what they dubbed "Bullpen Chaos," and it helped them clinch a Wild Card spot. They went to Houston, swept the Astros, and ended up playing Cleveland in the ALDS.

We all remember how that series went. They had the power bats, we had the pitching. What they also had were a bunch of tired arms. Their pitchers had logged career-highs in pitches and innings up to that point, and they didn't really have reliable starters other than Tarik Skubal.

They depended on their bullpen so much that they logged roughly 10,986 pitches and about 694 innings from their relief corps during the regular season. We won Game 1, they won Game 2, and we went on to beat them in a 5-game set.

I say all this to preface what the 2026 White Sox are doing. Venable is trying to replicate the Bullpen Chaos of 2024, albeit with many more pitches and innings thrown. And our players have been preparing for this exact type of game.

During the week, guys were hitting off the Trajekt machine and playing sim games against players in the "stay hot" camp. There is no rest-versus-rust debate. What we are seeing, though, is that with the timing of these games—especially starting at 1:00 PM—the shadows creep in very early.

If you are going to point out that they also had to hit in the shadows, that's true, but if you look at the box scores, they had trouble picking up the ball as well. It's a tough environment and always has been for these playoff series. I'd almost say they should play in cloudy conditions more so than the sunny day we had on Saturday.

That being said, I have a good feeling about our guys going into Game 2. Gavin can give us length, and if we can get to Kay, they will bring out Burke. If we take Game 2, the series is tied, and we are right back where we were in 2024.

Also, for those who want to know, the White Sox own the top spot for relievers this season in pitches thrown with 12,724, alongside 766 innings pitched. Fatigue is a real thing. Yes, they have the arm angles, but if they keep throwing 5 or 6 pitchers per game, I like our chances.

What do you think? Is the BP fatigue going to play a role in how the rest of this series goes?

Drop em 👇

J/K


r/ClevelandGuardians • • 1d ago

Plenty of games left. Still wouldn’t change today’s experience for anything. Go Guardians now and forever.

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r/ClevelandGuardians • • 1d ago

Well that fucking sucked

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r/ClevelandGuardians • • 1d ago

I Agree, Go Guards Beat Chicago.

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Let's play some Guards Ball.


r/ClevelandGuardians • • 1d ago

Postgame Recap ⚾🎫 Crowd

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I’ve been to several postseason games and many regular season games. This was probably the best crowd I’ve been apart of. Even when shit was down, we mostly stayed in it, with minimal booing. I usually get fed up with low enthusiasm and negativity, but I think we finally did well.


r/ClevelandGuardians • • 12h ago

Question about potential game five

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Apologies if this has been posted before, I assume it may have been, but how do ticket “refunds” work if game five ends up not being played?

I assume the money will just be refunded? TIA!


r/ClevelandGuardians • • 1d ago

I’m so glad these websites are legal and definitely understand how odds work

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r/ClevelandGuardians • • 19h ago

Off-Day Thread - 04 Oct 2026

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Sorry, no game today!

Next up: vs the White Sox on 05 Oct 2026 at 5:00PM EDT.

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r/ClevelandGuardians • • 1d ago

Today’s Rally Towel Design

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r/ClevelandGuardians • • 1d ago

Game Day, Ladies and Gents! 😊

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r/ClevelandGuardians • • 1d ago

Mustard two ways. Go Guards!

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Game 1 dogs


r/ClevelandGuardians • • 1d ago

I Agree, Go Guards They may have the pope. But we have the midges

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r/ClevelandGuardians • • 1d ago

Discussion WE MUST AMPLIFY OUR VICTORY SHRINES NO MATTER WHAT IN ORDER TO GO ALL THE WAY!!

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TELL ME AS TRUE FAN HOW YOU ARE GOING TO DO THAT AND NO NEGATIVE COMMENTS TO INSIGHT BAD JUJU!!


r/ClevelandGuardians • • 1d ago

Lets go Guards

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On my way to Cleveland. Lets go Guards.


r/ClevelandGuardians • • 1d ago

I Agree, Go Guards Vogt's post game talk in the locker room better have been like this

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r/ClevelandGuardians • • 1d ago

Discussion A Day at the Ballpark

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Preface: to all the people who feel the need to attack me by claiming this is 'AI' please go somewhere else. I do not understand the desire to attack anything and everything as AI slop. If you want to criticize my post by all means, but please at least do me the courtesy of reading and presenting an argument.

Game 1 of the ALDS was one of the most perfect baseball games I have attended in a long time. My friend from New Jersey came to town for my baby shower and while our husbands did other stuff: we went to the ballgame. It was a blast!

The weather was almost perfect for a baseball game: mid-60s and sunny; wonderful sweatshirt weather with sunglasses and a hat. We took a Lyft to the game (there were no scooters available), and walked in, and The Jake was packed! My friend had never been to Cleveland’s stadium before so I pointed out all of the features from my home stadium. I pointed out the Home Plate Club, where we got to watch people at a few points during the game. I mentioned how John Adams is a local hero for attending every game, for decades, and banging the drum when the Indians had runners in scoring position.

All the little parts of the game today were perfect. We made friends with our neighbors, and shared in some peanuts. It felt particularly good cracking the shells off today as I watched the Guards load the bases against Chicago. We grabbed a beer in the 4th inning after Chase DeLauter left the bases loaded. My Hazy Headlines tasted particularly good today as we watched, both on the edge of our seats, and cheered; both willing the Guards to score (alas, as I am sure you know: our wishes went unfulfilled).

I mentioned how the Guards have a hotdog race, as opposed to the Yankees subway race (which is digital on a screen). We both sang the national anthem softly and watched in awe as a plane flew overhead. We both enjoyed a hotdog after the 7th inning stretch (mine with peppers and onions, his with just ketchup). The nearby heckler amused us the whole game: especially once we realized just how bad the umpire was (we even enjoyed the White Sox fans nearby throwing the calls back at the heckler later in the game).

When Travis Bazzana struck out to end the game: we both groaned, and made our way back home. We walked across Hope Memorial Bridge, I pointed out the “Guardians of Traffic” statues which lend the team their name.

All in all: this game was one of the most enjoyable I have experienced in years. Something about taking in a baseball game, on a perfect October day, made today feel good. The Guardians lost, but I still left with a smile. The thrill of watching October baseball enhanced the flavor of the beer, the satisfaction of crunching peanuts at my seat, and grabbing a hotdog at the end of a game. At the end of the day: baseball is entertainment, and we enjoyed a game together. That is what baseball is all about, even playoff baseball.

The Game Itself

For those who were less able to just enjoy the small parts of the game (a feeling I empathize with deeply): all I can say is the game sucked. Our offense looked dead, and we let the White Sox off the hook twice after they walked the bases loaded. Our pitching was solid, and we got unlucky in the 7th when Chicago plated a third run on a weird double from Colson Montgomery. The double had an expected batting average of .050, and was hit a measly 64.0 MPH. To quote Terry Pluto: it was an inauspicious beginning for the Cleveland Guardians.

This is where most writers would attempt to explain the game, but as I have said repeatedly: October baseball defies explanation. There is a reason why there are 162 baseball games: it’s supposed to take that long for us to understand who the best teams are; in any one game any team can win. An ace pitcher can turn into a pumpkin and a mediocre pitcher can throw a perfect game. To dwell on that for a second there have been 24 perfect games thrown in Major League Baseball history (well over 100 years of baseball), here are the 24 pitchers to have done so (no pitcher has thrown more than a single perfect game):

-Lee Richmond
-John Montgomery Ward
-Cy Young
-Addie Joss
-Charlie Robertson
-Don Larsen
-Jim Bunning
-Sandy Koufax
-Catfish Hunter
-Len Barker
-Mike Witt
-Tom Browning
-Dennis Martinez
-Kenny Rogers
-David Wells
-David Cone
-Randy Johnson
-Mark Buehrle
-Dallas Braden
-Roy Halladay
-Phillip Humber
-Matt Cain
-Felix Hernandez
-Domingo German

Yes: there are some legends there; Cy Young, Sandy Koufax, Randy Johnson and Roy Halladay are all legends. Postseason heroes, slam dunk, first ballot Hall of Famers. Some are great pitchers in their own right as well. But then there’s Dallas Braden, a perfectly fine pitcher of no note. Or Phillip Humber. Lee Richmond, for instance, was a mediocre pitcher with a career losing record (back when wins and losses meant something).

At the end of the day, in any game, anyone can be the hero. It’s Rajai Davis and Elmer Smtih with arguably the biggest homers in Cleveland postseason history not Jose Ramirez and Tris Speaker. Len Barker, not Bob Feller or Sam McDowell, threw Cleveland’s most recent no-hitter (or perfect game). In any game or any series anyone can be the hero. Any team can win: that’s postseason baseball.

Even after a game one loss: it’s the first team to three wins that advances in this series. We have a game on Monday, we have to go win that one and then two more before Chicago can win two. That’s the task. I will save any fury that Cleveland has to beat Chicago (again) after beating them over 162 games later.


r/ClevelandGuardians • • 1d ago

Let’s Go Guards!

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r/ClevelandGuardians • • 1d ago

[Postgame Thread] White Sox (1-0) at Guardians (0-1) - 03 Oct 2026

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r/ClevelandGuardians • • 1d ago

I Agree, Go Guards Don’t forget! Yesterdays Westside Buzz comic

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r/ClevelandGuardians • • 1d ago

Game Thread [Game Thread] White Sox (0-0) at Guardians (0-0) - 03 Oct 2026, 1:00PM EDT

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r/ClevelandGuardians • • 1d ago

Remember the guy in the neon hats?

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I just looked him up and turns out he passed away in 2016. You could most easily spot him when a lefty was at the plate. He had a bag of neon hats and used to change colors each inning. Some of his friends carried on the tradition but I don’t know if they’re still doing it. His name was Tom O’Toole.

https://www.news-herald.com/obituaries/thomas-joseph-otoole-willoughby-oh/


r/ClevelandGuardians • • 1d ago

Discussion Watching the game rant

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Why is it so expensive and complicated to watch a game? I break down and get MLB.tv every year so I can watch the games. Then post season comes, and I spend hours trying to figure out how to watch the game because you have to have subscription after subscription. I'm tired. Just take my 10 bucks and let me watch the stupid game. I'm still sitting here trying to figure out how to stream the game on TBS and not spend $50. I don't have cable so punishment commence. As always, why is baseball not popular and dying out...maybe because it is so expensive to watch.


r/ClevelandGuardians • • 1d ago

ALDS G1 vs. CWS Starting Lineup 10-03 1:00 PM EDT (SPs: LHP Parker Messick vs. LHP Hagen Smith)

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r/ClevelandGuardians • • 1d ago

ALDS Roster

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r/ClevelandGuardians • • 1d ago

Discussion "We're gonna make a freaking run at this thing, because we're that freaking good!"

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It's 4AM and I can't go back to sleep. This locker room quote from Vogt lives in my mind.

How are you guys handling playoff jitters this morning?