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[u/New-Bookkeeper-8486]

I'm not blaming JT for much, but he sticks out like a sore thumb on the power play. Anyone else notice this? 

With how good pp2 looks, i wonder if one of those guys deserves a promotion.

[u/Sirrebral99 → u/New-Bookkeeper-8486]

If they were to make a change, Cowan has earned a look on the top unit with how he's playing so far

[u/Ok_Elevator4215 → u/Sirrebral99]

Cowan has earned more ice time, but I think you keep his lines as is and just play the third line more. Mckenna is the guy that needs more PP time, it's his one strength that fully works at the NHL level because it gives him space. Let him get his confidence by doing what he does best.

[u/Sirrebral99 → u/Ok_Elevator4215]

McKenna could definitely use the moral boost but I prefer the team to be run like a meritocracy, not handing things over. The best performers get the best positions. I think it sends a good message to say "you're on PP unit #2, you're gonna be the top guy out there so go out there do the job well and you get promoted"

[u/Ok_Elevator4215 → u/Sirrebral99]

There isn't enough PP time to earn the #1 spot from the PP2. The only other way would be 5 on 5 play but that 2nd line is a disaster and if we use his play there to argue he shouldn't be on PP1 then Nylander and Tavares should be off of it too.

Reality is he's shown what he can do in the limited sample we have. The sample size will not meaningfully grow because of how much time PP1 gets. At some point you're going to have to take a chance on the uber talented PP specialist or it'll be halfway through the season and we realize Mckenna is having a terrible year with zero confidence.

I'm honestly in the camp that if you weren't comfortable with him playing PP1 where he's literally made to play, he shouldn't have made the team out of camp. I'd much rather see him thrive in college then be tied down to the worst line in hockey and have that used against him when it comes to his PP1 time.

[u/Sirrebral99 → u/Ok_Elevator4215]

McKenna should be put in a position to succeed for sure, I just want it to come in a way that is organic and not handed to him. For example Cowan has outplayed him a ton so far, what message does it send to him if he gets overlooked for a promotion?

And I get the concerns for line 2 not looking good through the first three games, but holy guacamole saying its the worst line in hockey is a massive overstatement. McKenna-JT-Nylander is worse than Calgary's 4th line? Vancouver's 4th line? The fringe NHLers who can barely compete with replacement level players? We gotta chill with these statements.

[u/Ok_Elevator4215 → u/Sirrebral99]

The organic way was him proving himself at every single level to be an exceptional player and earning the 1st selection. He's not getting enough PP2 time to show what he can do properly, he looked great when he was out there, even Hiller said it.

I'm pretty sure it is statistically the worst line in hockey right now by almost every single relevant metric. And the fact we have to bring up rebuilding teams fourth lines to try and disprove it kind of proves it doesn't it? They've been truly awful whether it's stats or eye test. I'll amend the statement to "the worst top 9 line in hockey" if it makes you feel better. Still not a good look.

[u/Sirrebral99 → u/Ok_Elevator4215]

Share a link with the stats showing they're the worst line in hockey, if its available. They've been rough, not disagreeing with you there. Just pointing out its a pretty wild jump to go from saying they're underperforming / missing expectations to being worst in the league

Willy also has two goals in 3 games, that's a dynamite start for 95% of the league. There are twelve players in the whole league with more goals than him at this point.

[u/Ok_Elevator4215 → u/Sirrebral99]

Says my comment was removed for a twitter link so here's an article with the link: https://mapleleafshotstove.com/2026/10/05/maple-leafs-notebook-oct-5/

[u/Sirrebral99 → u/Ok_Elevator4215]

This is what you're referring to I assume?

A 3-game sample size with a rookie playing in his first couple games is not gospel truth. Again, I'm not saying the line is working well, but we gotta chill out a bit. Tavares and Nylander have been steady top 50 league wide players for over a decade. McKenna is literally a child and learning how to play in the NHL.

Using 3 games to conclusively say they're bad is the same as using TLK's half dozen games at the World Championships as proof he is one of the top centres in the game. He nearly led the tournament in goals and had better results than most of the players on Canada's Olympic team, therefore it must be true. Sounds a bit silly to make that statement right?

[u/Ok_Elevator4215 → u/Sirrebral99]

What was the point of asking for a link if you're just going to say it's too early anyways? Was it just in hopes I didn't have actual proof? And it's not just the numbers, watching the games you can very easily see they're one of the worst lines in the league. Both the number and eye test reach the same conclusion.

Anyways, my problem is the line doesn't even work in theory. I don't know what you're expecting to happen, none of them are good defensively and they can't retrieve pucks. Assuming they develop chemistry, they still won't have the puck most of the time to use that chemistry.

I like using the example of Knies and Mathews cause they didn't work that well together but it at least made sense to try and force chemistry because in theory, the combination works well. Compare that to something like Cody Ceci playing with Rielly and you don't really need to see the games to determine it's a bad idea, it doesn't work in theory and there's no reason to waste games hoping it will magically work out.

We don't need games to know certain things just don't work together. This line combination is one of those things. Your best case scenario is you get the line equivalent of Daniel Sprong, extremely skilled offensively but too bad defensively to actually contribute meaningfully when on the ice.