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u/King-Leaf-67 20h ago

I haven't been following the team for a few months but is there a reason why they were in such a rush to move Knies? Did he ask for a trade? Is it because they thought he was damaged goods? He was their best asset, why not move him for a #1 D-man whenever one becomes available?

He looks fine in Columbus, and making that trade right before the season means you need to sacrifice some games for Matthews and Marchenko to find chemistry. On top of McKenna needing to find his game

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u/Glock_Camera 20h ago

He wasn't damaged goods nor were they in a rush. He was just really our only tradeable asset that had any value.

Even Treliving was trying to trade him and thank god he didn't because the return was way less than Marchenko.

Marchenko is just better. Dude is a pure goalscorer who can drive the line himself. Just look at him playing with Matthews. He looks like a passenger. Whereas Knies last year was way too slow to keep up when he was on the top line.

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u/dicky72 20h ago

i think you're just thinking about it the wrong way.

you're looking at it from the "why did they want to move knies"

vs the "they wanted to get marchenko, and knies is what cbus wanted back"

it costs a lot to get a player like that...knies was that cost.

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u/BlastingBegins 20h ago

Teams don't trade #1 defensemen for complementary wingers

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u/King-Leaf-67 18h ago

How often do #1 D-men get traded?

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u/keeeeener 18h ago

I wouldn’t be surprised if Knies was talked about with Columbus for Werenski (probably more of a summer thing though). Only issue is that we’d probably have to include ~3 more firsts of value. Which we don’t really have.

Especially when our two best prospects are kinda needed this year (Cowan and Mckenna).

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u/DialedDrawback 19h ago

It's this. You can bet Chayka was looking pretty aggressivly for a Dman before the Knies trade.

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u/canuck_at_the_beach 20h ago

You've already got some answers but I'll add that we are trying to compete now while we have mathews and marchenko is the better player now. Maybe not in 2-3 years, but chances are he will be.

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u/perrieh 20h ago

Leafs management think Marchenko is a better player long-term, so they attached a 2nd round pick to upgrade on Knies. Is it a good or smart trade? Check back in 3 years

Knies for a #1D would have left a hole in the top 6. Could have been done, but it all essentially amounts to the fact that there’s work to be done

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u/Sirrebral99 Knies 20h ago

Combination of being the highest value trade chip they have with no trade protection, didn't gel particularly well with Matthews for chemistry and some suspected concern for his injury history so early in his career

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u/King-Leaf-67 18h ago

Makes sense

For the record I don't mind the deal. Knies always seemed more Hyman than an actual star. Someone that can thrive with top line teammates but he can't lead a line as the main option. With Marchenko he clearly has the ability to be a line driver. I like him, and I like the immediate extension.