How is the new Fire Emblem?

[u/SaveADay89]

I'm a big fan of the fire emblem games, but I will admit that I didn't like engage. I found the combat to be as engaging as ever, but the anime tropes and characters were really annoying. I liked 3H, though. My issues is that I heard the new one is heavily skewed towards the out of combat activities, particularly the social features. Is this true?

[u/unpeturbedcorvid]

3H had characters that would leave your house temporarily because they and their war alignments were so important to the plot. Many of their supports were timegated because they had plot relevance. Every chapter, every in house student had at least something to say. Not always substantial. But it was something. And everyone had their 2 cents on plot events when you clicked explore. 3H supporting cast has more plot relevance than the vast majority of FE games and I'm really not sure how you can argue otherwise.

Engage is the one who decided "yep, you guys had your moment, now we'll pretend you don't exist as we move on to the next region"

[u/Gingingin100 → u/unpeturbedcorvid]

I think you can pretty easily argue that 3 houses routes focus on 3-4 guys (Lord+Retainer+close friend1/close friend 1+2) to the detriment of everyone else. You're making it seem like I'm making an argument I never really said, I just think 3 houses' handling of auxiliary house members is extremely poor, especially when it comes to early supports and integrating them into the story beyond their designated 1 character trait they have when the writers don't feel like doing anything with them.

There's only so many times you can sit and listen to characters like Ignatz Ashe Felix {the entire non Hubert Edelgard Ferdinand eagles house} spout the same character trait in the exact same way at every plot point before it becomes too miserable to bear.

I like the majority of characters in the game but for core story content there's just too many of them at most times.

[u/unpeturbedcorvid → u/Gingingin100]

You've originally framed this as if to say "the reduction is an improvement on 3H" which doesn't align with the argument you're actually making. "3H didnt have enough story relevant characters so the fact FW has even less means it did this better than 3H" is basically what you are saying.

Also given what you said about supports it feels like you're either projecting FW supports onto 3H here, or you just... didn't unlock that many 3H supports?

[u/Gingingin100 → u/unpeturbedcorvid]

You edited on a part afterwards, dawg I did not say that please read properly😭. Three Houses has too MANY characters it treats as plot relevant when only 4-5 of them truly are and the others suffer because of it.

[u/unpeturbedcorvid → u/Gingingin100]

I am reading properly. The fact you can't see the internal contradiction of what you've written does not mean it's not there.

[u/Gingingin100 → u/unpeturbedcorvid]

The extent to which you're just making up an argument and deciding that's what I said is truly impressive

The reduction is an improvement because it keeps the story, support and character writing tighter rather than having stragglers.

That is my argument. Not whatever you made up in your head.

I hope you have a good day🫡

[u/unpeturbedcorvid → u/Gingingin100]

But your argument hinges on the idea that only 3 or 4 characters are relevant in 3H. You're arguing that it has both too many, and too little plot relevant characters compared to FW at the same time. Both cannot be true. And the one sentence chime ins that in house characters make in whatever given chapters ore battle cutscenes (the "im here" quotes you keep alluding to) are not coming at a detriment to the plot, and they're not all those characters have to say about the plot. That said, if they are, how are you going to sit there and argue Hubert and Edelgard, which you said again BE basically only focuses on them two and Ferdinand, have less plot relevance than a FW equivalent. She's the literal plot catalyst in every single route.

Kinda feels to me like you just didnt pick up much explore dialogue or view many 3H supports.

And I'd be hesitant to call FW's supports across the board "tighter" or better than 3H's.