The positive is that dodgers are losing, the negative is that the braves are winning and we might have to watch two games featuring that chant in atlanta
Cool for you but I'm not racist, it's not hard to support a team and acknowledge that the tomahawk chant is racist. It's not derived from any tribe's actual chant, is a racist caricature, and the braves stole it from FSU when Seminoles were never even in Atlanta, which was inhabited by Cherokees instead.
But I get that genocide is a joke to you and nothing matters outside of your baseball game. Whatever.
"It's not derived from any tribe's actual chant, is a racist caricature, and the braves stole it from FSU when Seminoles were never even in Atlanta, which was inhabited by Cherokees instead."
First off, the relevance of the third point is negated by the first point. And the fact that it's not derived from any tribe's actual chant doesn't really tend to support or go against it being racist either way.
"is a racist caricature" is unsupported--it's a chant used by fans to sound intimidating and support their teams. The only connection to native americans is through the pre-existing mascots, names, etc. of the teams, which, at least for the Atlanta Braves, originated out of an admiration for native american culture. The name came from Tammany Hall, which admired Native American culture (the name "Tammany" came from a Lenape chief who was regarded as a folk hero in the United States) and adopted native american names and titles out of a desire to create an independent American identity.
If you want to call that cultural appropriation, fine, but it was very clearly not intended to be a mockery.
This would be a halfway decent reply if I ever called it a mockery. Please don’t be dense on purpose and act like the tomahawk chop isn’t trying to emulate native Americans. I mean come on dude.
If it’s not racist then why did the braves stop giving out foam tomahawks? And why have there been numerous protests by native Americans against it? I just want to hear you say what you really think instead of this phony “it’s not actually Native American, a bunch of racist frat kids from FSU created the chant that just happened to emulate a native war chant, while just so happening to imitate a racist motion associated with natives” utter garbage.
It’s not hard to admit it’s a racist chant and anyone who defends it is defending racism. You can still cheer for the braves, no one’s gonna kill you
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u/Thedownvote_farmer Chicago Cubs 3h ago
The positive is that dodgers are losing, the negative is that the braves are winning and we might have to watch two games featuring that chant in atlanta