The easiest $30k this guy ever made

[u/New_Libran]

On October 26, 2022, the judge ruled that Walden's contact with Land should have ended when it became clear that Land was not sleeping in the park or in need of assistance, and that the city was not responsible for Walden's actions.

On November 22, 2022, the city settled the lawsuit for $30,000.

[u/gryme85]

Make the 30k come out off their pensionsfunds.

This will not stop untill it hurts them personnally.

[u/sambull → u/gryme85]

This is the sort of risk some sort of insurance company in the free market could fix

Require invidualized policies for LEO. If your record is showing you are unstable and costing money then insuring you becomes expensive to the point where you are no longer a viable asset

[u/Ok-District5948 → u/sambull]

Cops should be required to carry malpractice insurance just like doctors. This would make the cost of hiring a bad one too expensive and they'll be forced out of the profession.

[u/JUGGER_DEATH → u/Ok-District5948]

You think that police officer would be deemed to have personally committed "malpractice"? Isn't that the whole prolem in the US, that police officers have been made mostly legally immune to their own actions by the Supreme court?

[u/hm9408 → u/JUGGER_DEATH]

Qualified immunity, cops investigating themselves, training them to shoot on sight instead of de-escalating, so many things wrong

[u/NoSpawnConga → u/hm9408]

training them to shoot on sight instead of de-escalating

A what now? Imagine if pigs were held to the same RoE standard as US military, Leavenworth would need a city sized prison complex.

[u/EconomySeason2416 → u/NoSpawnConga]

Unironically yes, the US military RoE are more strict than police. A soldier of some variant doing something shitty can start an international incident... whereas if the cops brutalize people, the only people it hurts are Americans. To be faaaaaiiir though... this new regime just does shit. We did a 9/11 to them on the first day and then double tapped the first responders with another explosion. We assassinated a shit load of fishers in the Caribbean and off the coast of South America. We usurped a foreign nation and blew up an old woman in the process. Hell, when we killed Khamenei, we blew up his daughter, son in law, and daughter in law in the process. We just don't give a fuuuuuck anymore

[u/readilyunavailable → u/EconomySeason2416]

Anymore? Motherfucker your country has been doing this shit internationally since 1945. One of your pilots was goofing off, flying low in the Alps and snapped a cable car. 20 people died. The pilot wasn't even punished. And that was in an "allied" country.

If that had happened to your people by some non US pilot, you would have demanded that country to be bathed in fire.

This shit is nothing new, it just became way more nonchalant.

[u/KindledWanderer → u/JUGGER_DEATH]

You think that police officer would be deemed to have personally committed "malpractice"?

That's the thing with the proposed insurance setup - either the other cops allow him to fall and his insurance covers it, or they all have to pay for it one way or another if they lose the lawsuit.

And money talks.

[u/JUGGER_DEATH → u/KindledWanderer]

But what would be the mechanism to get rid of the officer? Wouldn't the city just end up paying insane insurance costs and having to keep these people? Or are you saying that various stakeholders would agree that police officers could be terminated if they did not hold said insurance? I'm not sure if that would be any easier to achieve than just changing the law to hold police officers more directly responsible.

In any case I do agree that insurance could be a useful tool, just not sure it would be any simpler than other approaches.

[u/H3OFoxtrot → u/JUGGER_DEATH]

I think the acting assumption is that the officer pays their own insurance, not the government. So if their premiums go up too much, then they would no longer make money and would likely leave the profession behind to do something else.

[u/KahlanRahl → u/JUGGER_DEATH]

Every officer gets their salary augmented by an $X/month stipend to cover the baseline insurance premium. If your insurance is more than that because you're a bad cop, then you pay the rest out of pocket. If your premium goes high enough, it is no longer viable for you to be a police officer and you need to change fields.

[u/rich101682 → u/[deleted]]

Health insurance and malpractice insurance are wildly different things.

[u/rich101682 → u/[deleted]]

"insurance companies will still find a way not to pay out"

Then the cop will have to pay the difference.

[u/Flater420 → u/JUGGER_DEATH]

Legally immune means you don't get punished for what you did in the past. Insurance premiums do no have to require you to be convicted for them to be increased.

People who get into frequent car accidents, even if they are not deemed at fault, still get their premiums increased simply because the odds of them being in more accidents in the future are higher.

[u/bluejohnnyd → u/JUGGER_DEATH]

I mean, the guy got a $30k payout for it so, yeah?