r/xmen • • 4h ago

Movie/TV Discussion I wondered why the Fox never adapt Mister Sinister for their X-Men movies?

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I liked Magneto but sometimes it gets repetitive when he’s always in the same spotlight.

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u/Classical_Fan 4h ago

They were hinting at him in some of the later movies. He would've probably shown up eventually had Fox not been bought out.

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u/ColonelQuaraitch 4h ago

He was set to show up in Gambit. But alas it never happened.

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u/FirebirdWriter 4h ago

Oh oh in a Gambit movie. Oh.

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u/King_of_Pink 4h ago

They were building towards him in Logan, Deadpool 2 and New Mutants. They just never made it there.

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u/Universal_Watcher Apocalypse 4h ago

X-Men: Apocalypse as well.

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u/AymanMarzuqi 4h ago

I think because they unironically think Mr Sinister was just too comic book like.

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u/ErinAmpersand 4h ago

Really glad the One Piece live action is just leaning into all the cartoony characters as hard as physically possible.

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u/AymanMarzuqi 3h ago

Exactly. Heck, I used to be one of the biggest One Piece skeptic because One Piece was too long and the designs were tok goofy. But the Netflix series actually turned me into a fan of the series

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u/Cool_Aioli_8307 4h ago

https://giphy.com/gifs/4NryB99naBi5T38zpK

Have you seen how Sinister dresses in S&M adjacent gear?

The closest Fox ever got to Sinister was New Mutants with the hint of Essex.

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u/Plus-Opportunity-538 4h ago

Yeah that look is very vampire goth bondage. If they lean into that they probably could have done something like how the live action inquisitors look in the Star Wars shows. It would probably clash with the Fox X-Men universe's general tone. They could lean into the camp with the way how Mr Sinister nowadays plays off like a Rocky Horror Picture Show character but that would still be a pretty big departure. At worst it would be as off putting as Apocalypse looked at best it would be massively toned down (no high red collar or ribbon cape).

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u/austinc9218 3h ago

Funny as he’s the brand new villain the MCU’s Xmen movie

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u/Specific_Kick2971 4h ago

All the better. Sinister is unapologetically campy and over the top dramatic.

Fox would have... swapped his cape for a leather duster. Stripped most of his powers. Miscast him with a random A lister. Only referred to him as "Essex".

They never knew how to lean into the most comic booky parts of X-Men and you shouldn't do Sinister without that.

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u/Bro-Im-Done 4h ago

Bc it would require them to utilize Cyclops

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u/MrSunshine92 58m ago

Nah he would just be focused on Logan instead.

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u/Patient-Reputation56 4h ago

They were hinting at Mr Sinister in the last few X-films but the plans fell through probably because of the Disney Buyout of 20th Century Fox.

Not that I really had faith in them doing Mr. Sinister justice since they seem to be allergic doing Anything not closely associated to either Professor X, Magneto, or Wolverine & the other X-men beyond Mystique were basically undercooked.

Like could you even imagine they gave the spotlight to Tye Sheridan's Cyclops to even bring up his connection and history with Essex?

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u/Shinobi347 4h ago

THANK GOD.

Fox did enough damage.

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u/Jermobooka Wolverine 4h ago edited 3h ago

Singer never really cared for the X-Men so the only villains were only ever going to be Magneto and the Government

Then Dark Phoenix because “we gotta do Dark Phoenix!!”

First Class was a prequel origin and opted for a weird Sebastian Shaw

DOFP was DOFP

Then they wanted to do Apocalypse and then Dark Phoenix again

And while that was happening they tried setting up Sinister in the background but kept falling short and never ended up doing him

Now we have confirmation that Nathaniel Essex will be featured in the MCU’s X-Men movie. Only took almost three decades after they started making X-Men movies to get to this point.

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u/OkKaleidoscope9554 4h ago

Tbf, it took about 3 decades from when X-Men comics started to get to him too

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u/flopedup 4h ago

They were scared of costumes, I can't imagine them adapting THE most CapeShit villain the X-Men have.

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u/tulaero23 4h ago

Have you seen Apocalypse.. you want them to do Sinister?

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u/speedyrocketfish 4h ago

Isn’t Adam Driver playing him in the upcoming movie?

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u/AshChiqs 4h ago

Well they have a boner for magneto and kept finding an excuse to use him so there's less space for other villains really.

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u/Ecstatic_Dance5767 4h ago

They were getting there then they got bought

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u/mrpenguinspoppers2 3h ago

Fox barely adapted the X-Men for their X-Men movies

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u/Vegetable-Meaning413 2h ago

He was basically in X-men first class, he just had Shaw's powers.

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u/trip6god 4h ago

To be fair sinister was kinda lame in the comics when the movies came out and only really got interesting in the last decade imo

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u/Better-Pop-3932 4h ago

Wtf? He master minded the Mutant Massacre. Sinister ignited Inferno. He was a wonderfully evil villain.

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u/trip6god 4h ago

Yeah he was pretty much dude in the background where most the time you don’t find out that he had anything to do with stuff til much later

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u/Better-Pop-3932 4h ago

Yeah idk. I just never thought of him as lame. Im also a huge XMen nerd. So its hard for me to find faults with anything XMen related

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u/Spiderlander 4h ago

They were going to

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u/Pilgrimhaxxter69 4h ago

It's really funny because afaik he was in basically every canceled X-Men film and ALMOST made it a ton of times

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u/Sorceress737 4h ago

Too sexy

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u/flintlock0 3h ago

Thankfully they just straight up said “Adam Driver has been cast to play Mister Sinister” instead of dragging us out for another decade.

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u/Lumpy-Marsupial-6617 2h ago

https://giphy.com/gifs/xXDu7guOzpGzS

They started filming scenes with David Bowie but he wouldn't stop trying to out sing Hugh Jackman. Then Patrick Stewart start belting out Shakespeare with Ian McKellen, and then it started to melt the brains of the production staff because it was too Cerebro for them.

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u/Tezz321 2h ago

Too much backstory...

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u/lr031099 52m ago

They were building Sinister up to be this Thanos level villain for the Fox X-Men universe with him being hinted at in Apocalypse, Deadpool II and New Mutant. I think he was meant to be the main villain in Logan before they scrapped the idea and using different as well as being hinted at in the Beast solo movie that they also scrapped.

Personally I think he should’ve been the main villain in First Class or if they had to use Shaw and the Hellfire Club, don’t have them be part of Magneto’s origin story and save Sinister for the one of the prequel movie involving Scott and Jean.

Like maybe Scott is missing and Alex tries to find him with the help of Charles and Erik could also be involved because he knows Sinister as the one who experimented on him during WWII.

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u/Johnny-Silvertwat Sunspot 4h ago

Because they were obsessed with the idea of "cool" X-Men that weren't too comic book-y. They even banned source material on sets.

Sinister is about as wacky comic book shit as one can possibly get.

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u/Archeryfin 4h ago

His name is "Mister Sinister" and that sounds fine to you because you bought in as a comic book. It's not an easy character to adapt and get normie audiences to be OK with.

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u/HankSteakfist 3h ago

Probably because he is generally obsessed with Scott and Jean and they were dead for a long time. Between 2006 and 2014 and when they returned they were underage, so his whole having them breed story would be extra creepy.

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u/Former-Dish-9828 1h ago

Aaaannnd what about now??

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u/lsm-krash 3h ago

Magneto was only in the same spotlight twice in the movies: 1 and 3. 1: main villain, no doubt. 2: barely a villain, he even helped most of the times. 3: main villain, but not main antagonist (dark Phoenix on that). First Class he is almost protagonist. Days of fire past,yeah I can see some calling him a villain too, but also not that much since we got Sentinels, Trask, mystique all running up to that too. Apocalypse he again goes the same route as 3, but even less by now. And finally Dark Phoenix, where he seemed to be the only relatable character at all!

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u/Marlowe126 4m ago

Too ridiculously evil.