r/worldnews • u/Artistic_Dj_6895 • 19h ago
Japan's Takaichi protests to US after Marine accused of murder in Okinawa
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-marine-arrested-suspicion-murder-japans-okinawa-2026-10-04/103
u/SlipshodRaven 16h ago
I spent six months in Okinawa last year as part of a Navy deployment (I am now no longer in the military). The island was so incredibly beautiful and all the locals I interacted with were very kind. I loved the opportunity to experience the culture and I'd like to go back some day if the opportunity arises. I don't even know what to say about this though... words cannot convey how much this kind of news saddens me.
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u/godihatepeople 9h ago edited 6h ago
I taught English in Japan about a decade ago. The only time I ever, EVER felt unsafe as a solo female traveler was when I was in Okinawa. My cousin was stationed there, so I went to visit the American Village or whatever that weird town is that looks like it belongs in Universal Studios. I had time to kill before meeting him and was walking along the crescent-shaped beach looking for shells. It was the off season and the only other people were a single dude and a small family (dad, mom, toddler) who were all likely military.
That single dude marched up to me and had me backed against the water with nowhere to run given the shape of the beach. He would not. Stop. Hounding me for a date. Are you hungry? Can I get you something to eat? Are you sure? Want to go see a movie? Why are you searching the ground? Are you missing something? Can I help you find it? Why are you here? Are you visiting someone? Do you have a boyfriend?
Like this was all rapid fire too, I couldn't get a word in edgewise it felt. I was so on edge. What if that small family hadn't been there? Would the dad even be willing to step in with his wife and small kid there?
I was finally able to answer YES I have a boyfriend, he's military police, and he's on his way RIGHT NOW. I may as well have told him I had leprosy with how fast he got out of there. I had to do this with a smile on my face (but not too inviting!) so I didn't piss him off because he was very muscular. I would've stood no chance. That dad wouldn't have either if the insistent dude fought back.
I was so unnerved I headed to the family to sit with them and pretend I was related, but changed my mind when I saw the baby. I didn't want to bring them into it. Instead, I put my shoes on my sandy feet and hightailed it into the nearby theater. I overpaid for a ticket and saw the Star Wars reboot for about 45 minutes while my cousin raced over.
My cousin was livid and wished dearly he had the guy's name. He really is military police. We walked around a bit looking for him, but he was long gone. He said he looked into it further and came up with nothing.
I was lucky. So many girls and women weren't. My advice if anyone is in a similar situation: say you have a boyfriend, husband, brother, dad, cousin who is military police. That's what worked for me.
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u/JY0950 19h ago
On deaf ears
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u/Jumpy_Hogara 17h ago
I think Takaichi doing that alone already deserves credit. More so if what you said is true and she knows it and still does this. Respect.
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u/Grigorie 17h ago
It doesn’t really, though. I live in Okinawa. The Government of Japan is more than happy to condemn stuff like this (which is good), but when it comes to actually removing U.S. Military presence, it’s a complete 180. We just had a new governor elected here after 8 years of an anti-base Governor; he is backed by the LDP and did not campaign on an anti-base platform because the GOJ will never stop putting U.S. military in Okinawa.
This island is tiny and hosts more U.S. military than any other location in the Pacific, Okinawa has always been used as a shield for “real” Japan, and Takaichi sees this no differently than any prime minister before her. There would have to be a dozen murders before GOJ truly considers doing anything about the U.S. military presence here, it’s abhorrent.
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u/hobovalentine 16h ago
Japan and Korea are not going to ask the US to remove the troops as long as the DPRK and China exist as military threats.
Also while the crime was heinous per capita murder committed by US troops are rare but you can’t screen all the psychopaths out of the military and send slip through.
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u/Jumpy_Hogara 16h ago
I think you fail to see how bad the alternative can be.
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u/Grigorie 16h ago
Entirely irrelevant to the point I was making, which is that it’s not really commendable for a PM to say “it’s outrageous that one of your citizens has killed one of mine, and I expect full cooperation for the investigation.” It’s expected, and will likely not change the insistence of this government bending a knee to the U.S.
Also, just decide on a reply next time instead of cycling through a bunch of weird responses and edits; weird to threaten me with “your country (China)” (your words) conquering my country.
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u/Nessie_of_the_Loch 16h ago
Lol. She's just putting on a performance for her audience.
If she had any actual moral fiber, in her appearance about a month ago for the memorial marking 81 years since the end of WW2, she would've said something about Japan's wartime aggression instead of just talking about the suffering of the Japanese people.
If she had any moral fiber, she wouldn't have spent years in the past trying to remove what little even shows up on Japanese textbooks about what colonial Japan has done, instead of trying to remove any mentions of sexual slavery and forced labor in the books.
But she doesn't. The only wrongs she sees are when something happens to Japan.
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u/Jumpy_Hogara 16h ago
Do you know many so-called leaders don't even "put on a performance", or do it for the wrong thing? Exactly because there have been too much inaction, as well as the belligerent nature of the US now, that I think this protest is remarkable
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u/Nessie_of_the_Loch 16h ago
Which leader fails to put on a performance on behalf of their own nation? Are you for real?
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u/kylansb 17h ago
its more or less lip service for her constituents.
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u/Jumpy_Hogara 17h ago
Which means her constituents are not subservient slaves too. Still a good thing. Stop belittling this action.
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u/JY0950 16h ago
No action, talk only?
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u/Jumpy_Hogara 16h ago edited 16h ago
Leaders making a stand isn't mere talk
Whether this is enough action is debatable, but given Japan's position I think it's remarkable.
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u/Stoifan91 19h ago
This is why we can't have nice things. Not only do we have foreigners acting like actual degenerates while disturbing the peace. There are foreign soldiers committing horrible crimes against the Japanese (not the first time either, and it won't be the last). No wonder they're starting to push back against visitors. These type of headlines are exactly why people turn to the far right in their countries.
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u/softcottons 17h ago
Unfortunately American soldiers are doing this everywhere. It’s a big issue in the UK too.
- How the US bypasses British courts in military crimes in the UK
- US airman accused of exposing himself to 16-year-old girl avoided British trial
- ‘Degrading’: why did a US fighter pilot avoid British trial after strangling a woman in England?
- US airman accused of ‘spree’ of rapes on sleeping women avoided UK courts
- Former US spy avoids jail over death of teen motorcyclist Harry Dunn25
u/010Horns 15h ago
Being court martialed is, in most cases, going to be worse for the defendant than the civilian court system. They don’t have the same guaranteed rights. Just FYI
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u/Historical-Sell-712 12h ago
And we all know how the US military zealously pursuits justice when its own commit crimes
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u/BUSY_EATING_ASS 11h ago edited 10h ago
Honestly it used to. A couple of guys I know when I was in are STILL in Leavenworth turning big rocks into little rocks, and that’s just their military sentence.
While there has been several terrible high profile cases of American servicepeople getting away Scot free of heinous shit, that was NOT my observation when I was in, it seemed like getting court martialed/article 15ed/captains masted/etc for looking at someone wrong/being on the wrong end of a tag out/pissing of a local happened often enough.
The Fat Leonards of the military get baby gloves, sure, but lower enlisted? Embarrassing the military? Yeah, you were getting an example made out of you.
Anecdotal but just chipping in my experience.
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u/MaximumConcept25 13h ago
This is not true. Military courts guarantee all the same rights a US civilian court.
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u/010Horns 13h ago edited 13h ago
They do not. While some rights carry over, commanders select jurors, the jury panels can be smaller, and unanimous verdicts are not required except for capital offenses.
And courts martial are Article I courts that Article III courts generally defer to. So many of the rights that are currently granted by statute could be taken away at Congress’s whim, and may not be constitutionally protected like our civilian rights.
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u/happyscrappy 11h ago
It's a big issue in the UK in both directions. It's not like they don't do this with their bases also. The UK, as a colonial empire, had a massive interest in developing the concept of "our citizens will never get a fair trial under a country where we are seen as occupiers".
The goals countries have and reasons they want this kind of arrangement are so universal that this situation of local immunity becomes very common where the country with the emplacement (base) has sufficient power/wherewithal to get an agreement.
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u/wellwellwelly 19h ago
Nah the pushing back against visitors on the mainland isn't rooted to Okinawa. Okinawa has a deep history of fuck ups by US marines including crashing a helicopter into a school. Locals in Okinawa want the US bases out understandably, but unfortunately the US won't budge. This has been happening since the war and during that time a lot has changed as well as views towards foreigners on the mainland, both positive and negative.
Having said that it has been a long time since the war so Okinawa has become somewhat of a melting pot of japanese-american as well. But it's incomparable to the mainland.
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u/Stoifan91 18h ago
Obviously, this isn't an isolated issue to one place. What I mean however, is that it for sure doesn't help. This is gonna go through the headlines in Japan. And then it's going into the already loaded ammunition for even more extreme conservatism. We see it all over the world currently.
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u/SufficientGolf6953 18h ago
Japan puts up with it because it offers them additional protection against China, but obviously Okinawa will be targeted heavily, so yeah, considering the state of the world I would not want to live there right now or ever.
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u/Dynamite_Shovels 18h ago
I think Japan puts up with it mainly because their conservative governments don't have the stones to push back against the US. Especially Takaichi who has been extremely meek to American interests
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u/-Nocx- 17h ago
The Japanese are in the middle of their biggest military buildup since WWII, and it is all authorized and subsidized by the US government. They have new bases springing up across all of their southwestern islands and the US is training their soldiers.
That’s why they put up with it.
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u/SufficientGolf6953 18h ago
Do you know why they don't have the stones to push back against the US?
The geography of Japan demands friends and allies. Being an island is great for defense, but they are close to Russia and China while being pretty far away from any allies.
The island also lacks resources and so Japan relies heavily on America's global order that offers free trade around the world.
Take out the USA and China could crush Japan by just instituting a blockade. They have no real military and even a shitty blockade would devastate the entire country.
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u/kylansb 17h ago
cause they lost ww2 and don't exactly have a say in their own country.
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u/SufficientGolf6953 11h ago
They do have a say, stop bullshitting. They need America as a friend, because they're foreign policy is pissing China off immensely
This would be suicidal if they didn't have powerful friends.
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u/kylansb 17h ago
japan puts up with it because there is nothing the japanese govt can do anything about it.
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u/SufficientGolf6953 11h ago
You don't understand how International diplomacy works. If you aren't China or America, then you need friends. Japan is doing everything they can right now to demonstrate to China that they have no interest in a better relationship with the CCP.
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u/kylansb 8h ago
nope, even if china does not exist, japan has no way of making us remove military bases from its territory.
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u/SufficientGolf6953 8h ago
Yes they do. It's hard to operate a military in a country that refuses to cooperate. We need their consent or we have to force it using the military as security which is no position we want to be in with Japan.
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u/kylansb 8h ago
oh please don't be so naive, on paper it looks like we need their consent but when push comes to shove there isn't a damn thing the japanese govt can do to force the us out.
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u/SufficientGolf6953 7h ago
We let Iraq. We left Afghanistan. What you are saying is just demonstrably false considering recent history.
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u/kylansb 7h ago
we left iraq and afghanistan cause it no longer serves our interest, what you are using for example has no relevance.
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u/Scary_Metal2884 18h ago
Maybe this was the reason China is extremely determined to push all the foreign powers out of Shanghai
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u/berryer 14h ago
among other reasons, but when the Hong Kong stuff was going down I had asked some of my coworkers their thoughts and it became pretty clear they weren't culturally over https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Century_of_humiliation
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u/Capable_Kiwi2514 13h ago
Th e Century of Humiliation is a big deal because the CCP wants it to be. They used to preach that out had been completely overcome and then started to emphasise it more when they realised that victim complexes are useful.
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u/Financial-Grass-6114 9h ago
The Century of Humiliation is a big deal because the CCP wants it to be.
Eh, I think it's a little more complicated than that. The CCP uses it because the feeling of national humiliation is alive and well in many parts of China especially the rural areas. The CCP is a nationalist party ideologically and derives its legitimacy from the beginning on being able to unify China and to stand up against foreign oppression. It does not really follow Communism except as a means to fulfilling nationalist goals.
This wouldn't be possible if there were not wide swaths of Chinese people who believed in it including most party members. If the CCP leadership stopped leaning onto nationalism, they would be couped or removed by members who do.
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u/Scary_Metal2884 6h ago
Thanks a very interesting take. I didn’t think of that. Good to learn something on Reddit.
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u/Capable_Kiwi2514 9h ago
My post isn't a speculative opinion, it's the material history of how the CCP's approach to the Century of Humiliation in their rhetoric. Their narrative pivot and the politics behind it are documented scholarship.
Hyper-reifying a specific period of time and emphasizing the word 'Humiliation' most of all was their deliberate choice.
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u/Financial-Grass-6114 9h ago
Pivot? The CCP began as a party from the Xinhai Revolution which was an anti foreigner nationalist party. They were allies with KMT due to aligned nationalists interests. The Century of Humiliation is a concept that existed since the beginning of modern China (pre-PRC). They hardly ever pivoted from it, they simply took the mantle from their predecessors. If the CCP invented it and can direct it, why did it exist decades before the party formed?
i think it would behoove you to actually talk or understand chinese before you yap from what you read via post modern liberals regurgiating stuff that sounds nice.
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u/Capable_Kiwi2514 6h ago
This has nothing to do with "postmodern liberalism" (very random place to bring up postmidernism, almost like you used 'postmodernism' because you wanted a random scare word).
The CCP presented themselves as having conquered / vanquished the legacy of the century of humiliation and then pivoted hard against that narrative to one that went back to a more victimhood centred narrative.
Feel free to look up various scholarship that documents that change in discourse. Documented historical use of the narrative by the CCP > your vibes.
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u/berryer 13h ago
absolutely, same reason Pearl Harbor & 9/11 still get pushed so hard here
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u/Scary_Metal2884 4h ago
Yes. At its core, we all react in almost the same way. Our propaganda feeds us with lessons of our past defeat so we can keep our population motivated to fight and die for future wars
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u/Capable_Kiwi2514 9h ago
I'm not American but no, those are used to create senses of triumphalism, not victimhood. They don't drive modern US foreign policy, and citizens are not taught to view Japan through the lens of WW2 the way that Chinese are taught to view Japan through its crimes against China. The US does not control narratives with the same centralized control that China does.
In sum---poor comparison.
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u/Tentacle_poxsicle 9h ago
China won't stop at Home Kong, they want East Asia and are willing to wait for it.
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u/Scary_Metal2884 6h ago
What are you talking about? I was referring to the Concessions in Shanghai after treaty of Nanjing.
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u/Jumpy_Hogara 17h ago
And now Hong Kong
But ultimately the locals suffer even more.
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u/Scary_Metal2884 6h ago
What are you talking about? I was referring to the Concessions in Shanghai after treaty of Nanjing.
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u/Jumpy_Hogara 6h ago edited 4h ago
To me you are talking about CCP reversing this, starting by purging all foreign interests in Shanghai after 1949 and I said it's doing the same in Hong Kong after 2019
That's also exactly the reason many Shanghaiese fled to Hong Kong after 1949, and similarly so many Hongkongers fled to Five Eye countries after 2019, unfortunately
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u/KodakStele 15h ago
Let's not pretend like the japanese military of old were good examples of how soldiers should behave
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u/Stoifan91 9h ago
There is a clear difference between WW2 Japan and Modern Japan though. Literally not even on the same level anymore. Same with Germany in that regard.
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u/CretinousVoter 16h ago edited 16h ago
This could be mostly solved by confining everyone to base except when on official business in uniform. We do that elsewhere because the mission comes first, so doing it for PCS moves to Okinawa should be no big deal.
The US doesn't take discipline and interactions with host nations seriously and it shows. Leaving base is a want not a need. Anyone sensitive enough for that lockdowns bother them is a weaknewss not a asset. Any complainers have every right not to reenlist. There will be plenty to replace them.
Treat Okinawa like Persion Gulf bases and ban alcohol, keep troops away from the locals (it's a duty station not a vacation) and drop the UCMJ hammer on those who don't get the hint. Use base security as an excuse. Not hard.
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u/SlipshodRaven 15h ago
As someone who "deployed" to Okinawa for six months... it basically felt like a vacation there. I really grew to love that little island (it's so much better than Guam). I can't help feeling an extra layer of rage about this news knowing that Okinawa (at least in my eyes) is one of those "destination" duty stations.
As much as I despise group punishment, if confining US servicemembers to base or banning alcohol is what it takes to protect our hosts, then so be it.
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u/GKoala 15h ago
Lmao what a world, we used to call it okitraz cus getting stationed there sucks ass. But I guess a 6 month vacation wouldn't be too bad.
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u/SlipshodRaven 15h ago
Try three years in China Lake. Okinawa is like fucking paradise after that place.
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u/Germane_Corsair 16h ago
Because it’s a consistent problem. It’s not just one or two people. This shit happens on a regular. If you can’t control your people, then you need to isolate them from the rest of the innocent civilians.
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u/_Being_a_CPA_sucks_ 16h ago
Ever heard one bad apple spoils the bunch? Also, the military is pretty famously an organization that believes in collective punishment.
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u/FishingGlob 13h ago
Let them abide by the law on base. There’s no human right violation by not allowed going off base. They didn’t get to go fuck off when forward deployed, why should this be different?
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u/Dont_Messup 16h ago
Back to the good ol Group Punishment…
That’ll raise morale!
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u/FishingGlob 13h ago
Morale isn’t the worry that Okinawan people have. It’s the worry that their women and children keep getting raped, assaulted and murdered.
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u/didy115 13h ago
I was stationed on Okinawa back in 2016 when a former Marine raped and murdered/dumped her body in a luggage along the side of the road.
Massive protests that closed down gates at Kadena.
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u/arkan164 8h ago
I was in Guam on TDY at the time when like 1600 marines had to relocate there from Japan cause they wouldnt let em in country
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u/Yuukiko_ 19h ago
Has she seen what he did with that diplomat that ran over someone in the UK?
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u/clavinova23 19h ago
here you go ~
Anne Sacoolas, the wife of an American intelligence employee, caused the fatal crash that killed 19-year-old British motorcyclist Harry Dunn on August 27, 2019, while driving on the wrong side of the road near RAF Croughton in Northamptonshire, England.
She was charged with death by dangerous driving in December 2019.
She pleaded guilty to the lesser charge of death by careless driving in October 2022, although she did not appear at the trial in person.
On 8 December, Ms Sacoolas was sentenced via video link to eight months' imprisonment - suspended for 12 months - and a year-long driving ban.
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u/Manwhostaresatgoat 13h ago
So no prison time served or any form of punishment. All she has to do is avoid travelling to the UK.
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u/Iammjustbaddd 13h ago
Damn the court really suck huh a person literally died and they gave 8 months. Nice lawyer.
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u/clavinova23 1h ago
i agree, death caused by driving around the world are too lax, but that's my personal opinion.
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u/Dervyn 19h ago
That was a diplomat's wife iirc.
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u/happyscrappy 11h ago
She was a spy. An employee of US intelligence under official cover. Which is why she was afforded the ability to leave by the Home Office at the time.
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u/instanoodles84 13h ago
They certainly aren't sending their best.
Hmmm where have I heard that before?
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u/FiftyBuxBloBang 18h ago
Remember the story where the soldier kidnapped a 15yo a few years ago. Seems there’s a massive cultural issue and it was only a matter of time.
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u/Rogynd2163 18h ago edited 18h ago
Only a matter of time until what? The Okinawans keep protesting the US military presence but the US isn't willing to move out. Crime from US soldiers has always been a thing ever since the US military entered Okinawa.
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u/T_Money 17h ago
A very small amount of the locals actively protest against the military presence. The vast majority of Okinawans want some type of US presence, but the biggest complaint is that Okinawa specifically has a disproportionately high amount of US bases compared to mainland Japan.
The figures are something like 20% want bases removed completely, 60% want the amount of bases reduced on Okinawa but not gone completely, and 20% are okay with keeping it as is
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u/dogoodreapgood 17h ago
There have been several sexual assault cases and then last year an American civilian was forcibly arrested by the US military curfew patrols. I don’t know if murder was imminent but it’s not a small problem.
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u/Special_Kestrels 13h ago
The guy who got arrested was just in an off limit bar. Off limit to the military. The US civilian did nothing wrong.
That's another issue with curfew patrol is that they harass anyone who looks American. My gf is European and she has her Japanese residency and she works as a bartender and gets bugged at least every few months by them
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u/dogoodreapgood 12h ago
Yes, the issue was that he was forcibly arrested the military police (or whatever they call the curfew patrols). He refused to provide ID but they had no jurisdiction over him to demand it because he was a civilian.
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u/Capn_Chryssalid 17h ago
Justice should be done under any administration, but in this case the suspect IS still a suspect, was/is in Japanese custody, and the US is cooperating with the investigation. Really, comments should be kept to a minimum during this period. So things are basically proceeding just as you'd expect right now. All this info is in OPs article...
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u/thehippieswereright 18h ago
greenland needs to listen and learn. americans must be kept to their bases.
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u/Jumpy_Hogara 17h ago
That can exactly show why the US is a good boss. Their servants can protest on what they do wrong.
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u/Critical_Interest706 15h ago
American marines will continue to do this kind of thing. This is far from the first time something like this has happened, they can’t be trusted to leave their base if they will act like lunatics and killers
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u/Anal-buttsex 14h ago
Excellent reminder why not to automatically respect someone because of their job. Check out what sexual assault is like, unless they changed since I got out.
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u/00notmyrealname00 15h ago
I lived in the West Pacific about 20 years ago. The Marines were doing this shit then, too. So much so that they were making plans to move all 8-10k or so Marines out of Okinawa and into Guam. The Seabees on big Navy we're having a fit because there wasn't anywhere to put them and they were going to need housing basically right away. It was a thing, for sure.
The point I'm making is that we have historically and consistently mistreated the people of Okinawa. And that is an absolute tragedy.
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u/imminentjogger5 18h ago
another murder/rape but they'll do anything but move the base or restrict the USAF to the base only.
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u/DigSpelledBackwards 18h ago
Kick em out, I'm sure the US would love to abandon another ally.
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u/KenBoCole 16h ago
Japan dosemt quite have the military or economic power to do that. They rely too much on the US.
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u/Murky_Meaning2129 13h ago
It’s not about military or economy. Japan doesn’t have full sovereignty.
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u/Professional-Put7420 19h ago
given history, this marine will be slapped on the wrist. until serious punishment is actually given, marines will continue to rape and murder on that island. sadly, the us continues to stir up fear amongst each other in Asia as the reason why countries should tolerate such behavior and its presence. china hasn't really fired missiles or anything as they value their ability to export more than taking over a tiny island. north korea also does more saber rattling than anything mostly because of us presence in east asia. basically, the us continues to create its own demand and east asia continues to play into its hands. the military knows this from the top brass down. don't expect things to change in okinawa.
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u/SufficientGolf6953 18h ago
The USA stir up fear?
Since you bring up history, then I'll do the same. There is good historical reason why Chinas neighbors have good reason to fear the ambition of Beijing.
Dismissing that just comes off as blatant CCP propaganda. We saw what China did in Hong Kong. Taiwan saw it too and I imagine that will evcourage them to keep China out of their country.
Meanwhile, China is ignoring an international court that told China that their claims to the South China Sea are horse shit. They don't care. The UN has no power here. China is trying to steal their neighbors exclusive economic zones where they fish for food or extract other resources.
They built artificial islands just to help them make sure that they will always dictate who gets to use the South China Sea.
Meanwhile you sit there like an idiot and say clueless shit that dismisses all of this.
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u/snower88 19h ago edited 14h ago
I hope the murderer faces the heaviest punishment in Japan if guilty
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u/snower88 14h ago
Surprised that many people do not support heavy punishment for murdering.
This shows what world we are living in.
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u/PeanutButterCat6 15h ago
As a Marine that was stationed there, the Okinawa people are very aware that if the U.S. went away China would take its place. And its soldiers would be doing the same thing. It’s a horrible draw to be located so strategically. I wish them peace on that little island.
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u/NoIGnoTwitsNOtktk 13h ago
Really? China’s culture conflates sex and violence as much as the US? I’m a little surprised at that. Do they have believable stats that can be compared?
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u/00notmyrealname00 15h ago
I lived in the West Pacific about 20 years ago. The Marines were doing this shit then, too. So much so that they were making plans to move all 8-10k or so Marines out of Okinawa and into Guam. The Seabees on big Navy we're having a fit because there wasn't anywhere to put them and they were going to need housing basically right away. It was a thing, for sure.
The point I'm making is that we have historically and consistently mistreated the people of Okinawa. And that is an absolute tragedy.