Spoilers!!!!

When in Ebou Dar, and getting the BOW, how did they get away with it and the other items?? Sorry for misspellings, I’m listening to the audiobooks so can’t spell check.

But the gang was attacked so badly, how did they get the bowl etc?? What did I miss?? Thanks for clarifying!

In the finale we see egwene put adam on rena and it works because she actually could channel a little.

Bbut before that nyneave and elaine also put adam on some random suldan and it works, how it is posible?

The door closed with a clack that made Mat look up.

"Rand," he said. "How was the audience with Amyrlin Seat? Is she as scary as she looks?"

Rand passed a shuddering hand across his mouth. A crust had formed on the corners of his cheeks, and Mat noticed a faint red line stamped on his upper lip.

"Mat," he said shakily. "For a little while, I was the Amyrlin Seat."

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I finished book 2 and boy is my ass even rawer. You redditors were not very kind to me last thread. I've been trying to finish this series since 2009 (depressive spiral due to the FUCKIN SAINTS I only recently pulled out of), so put those pitchforks down because WE ARE MAKING SOME PROGRESS HERE.

Book 2 of the Wheel of Time? More like Book Chew because we have a feast here. This book is jam packed with beasts, slaves, and samurai warriors. Let's dig in:

1. If you're new to WoT, its thing is this: it's a fantasy epic told pretty much hour by hour. It's pace would make Henry James go, "WHOA THERE, WE IN A RUSH KIDDO?" This is an insane way to write a fantasy epic because this story would take twenty books. There's no way to finish it before death and...checks Wikipedia....oh no....

2. But we are flying through this one. The story picks up weeks after the first book, and at one point during Rand's peregrination south, we skip two whole days in the narration. The pacing is blistering. I could barely hang on as we catalogued every meal Liandrin stops for in the Ways.

3. The Amyrlin Seat. Holy shit. You. Guys. Did. NOT WARN ME ABOUT HER. "Moraine, a carp on a hook is still not scaled." "A rip in a net will only let the smallest gilly pass." So delightful. Every sentence of hers includes a fish reference. "RAND, THE DRAGON REBORN IS NO MERE DITCH DONKEY." Absolutely insane. I presume every time she shows up she's like this. "MORAINE, GET MY WADERS BECAUSE I'M GOING DEEP IN THAT STINK."

4. We get our first glimpse at otherworlds in this book when Rand just straight-up sleepwalks into one and meets an OF model. You can absolutely see the influence of Book of the New Sun as he journeys through a strange, upsetting land while horny.

5. In the previous book, we were treated to a lot of taint. The feel of the taint, the presence of the taint, the taste of the taint on our tongues. I shit you not within 50 pages of this book starting we get a guy called The Sniffer. I was dying.

6. We get our first look at Aes Sedai training which sucks but gets a pass because the alternative is ensalvement by the Seanchean.

7. The Seanchan. Finally, some bad guys I can get down to hating. I don't care about Darkfriends or Ballsman or whoever the hell. Most of the time when these guys show up, I don't know what the hell is going on. But effete slavers? I can hate them.

8. Thom's alive! Though more like 'Thom Wick.' "People keep asking me if I'm back. And I haven't really had a song for them. BUT YEAH, I'M THINKING I'M BACK."

9. Alright. Hold on. The Fremen are in this series? A ferocious desert people fashioned by the harsh environment into killing machines the rest of the world fears? Is this shit Dune? Of course, the Fremen were descended from essentially peaceful hippy Zensunni wanderers. The Fremen are Frank Herbert making the point that anyone can become dangerous under the right circumstances. I wonder where the Aiel come from? Hmmmmm.

10. The Dragon is Reborn! Wait the Dragon is Reborn? What does that even mean? Oh well. Press on. We gotta find out what Rand eats for supper every night on Toman's Head.

Bonus: Turek's death is not well described, so I presume Rand's final blow cuts both his balls off.

Bonus 2: It's the end of the book, and nobody is where they're supposed to end up. Guess. We. Gotta. DO THE WAYS AGAIN. Does every book end this way. We getting Machin Shin everytime a story needs to conclude but the characters aren't in the right spot?

In regards to Taim being Demandred

Prologue: All of the forsaken are searching for Angreal etc. Demandred getting specific instructions from dark one

Chapter 2: Taim immediately shows up at Camelyn

Chapter 3: revealed that he hasn't gone mad in 15 YEARS. He doesn't sweat like other forsaken/aes sedai

Rand: careful of anyone learning fast it could be a forsaken

Taim: feigned shock* one of the forsaken! Whoa rand that's crazy

Also

Rand: I intend to cleanse saidin

Taim: scoffs* that would take way more power than you could- Wait you wouldn't happen to have any of them sa'angreal lying around would you? 😏

No wonder RJ had to change it for being so obvious

Agora vou classificar os narradores de \*A Roda do Tempo: O Olho do Mundo\* com base no número de capítulos (Lembre-se que alguns capítulos deste livro podem ter mais de um narrador; portanto, a contagem de capítulos pode parecer maior, mas isso é simplesmente porque estou contando quantas vezes cada pessoa narrou), no número de páginas e nos meus favoritos pessoais:

_Número de capítulos:

1º Rand al'Thor: 43

2º Perrin Aybara: 8

3º Nynaeve al'Meara: 3

4º/5º Lews Therin Telamon: 1

4º/5º Moiraine: 1

_Número de páginas:

1º Rand al'Thor: 721

2º Perrin Aybara: 113

3º Nynaeve al'Meara: 33

4º Lews Therin Telamon: 7

5º Moiraine: 1

_Meus favoritos pessoais:

1º Rand al'Thor

2º Perrin Aybara

3º Nynaeve al'Meara

4º Lews Therin Telamon

5º Moiraine

Hello all, wanted to share some feelings about this amazing book.

Long time ago I finished The Great Hunt (made a post about that too if you're interested), and I was intent on continuing the series. I am listening to an audiobook though and one does not always have the time to continuously listen to it, hence the time gap.

My memories may be a little hazy, since it has been couple of weeks since finished TDR, so sorry if the text is a bit erratic, but here goes.

To start, I must say I loved it. If TGH was an 8/10 for me, this is 9, damn near 10. Boy I did not miss Rand at all :D (yeah not the biggest fan of him yet), on the other hand, I now love Matt and Perrin.

Perrins wolf sections are so well written it's unbelievable. I feel like I'm right there with him every time. Like at the beginning, when they're ambushed in the camp and he faces a myrddraal. At first he's scared as hell but as he locks in, bares his teeth and gives into it a little, I nearly jumped out of my chair. Later I loved his chemistry with Fayiel

Matt's chapters were always great. His paring with Tom was a great choice too, and him having the power of luck and slowly coming to understand how it works was so much fun. The highlight of his chapters is for me his fight on some bridge, where he just goes "Time to roll the dice", grabs the other guy and throws them both of, only to land on the guy with no injuries. Oh and him going 1v2 against two warders in training. I was not familiar with his game, because before the fight I went "Nononono Matt what are you doing stupid, you are sick and even if you weren't it's 1v2?!?!?!"

The girls' story, chasing the black aja, is so gripping. Anything connected to the black aja is really. But Siuan girl, you really could have taught these 3 prodigies how to protect themselves from being shielded from the power. You really didn't have 10 minutes to spare? Sending them to hunt full aes sedai while being so vulnerable could have backfired tremendously.

Bit of a side tangent, but when they were captured by darkfriends and Aiel saved them, they were so cool. "Dance with me, Shadowman" "No, dance with me!". They are like a culture full of warders if they were battle junkies.

Anyways, we got to see Egwane's trials and just like with Nynaeve, they are a highlight of the whole book

While first two are heartbreaking, Egwane leaving a world where she has a daughter with Rand and leaving Rand stuck under some rubble to be potentially turned to shadow, but the third one was even more gutwrenching. Nearly being turned to shadow herself, then rushing to save Rand from being stilled...I was so angry when the silver arch appeared, I did not want to leave Rand there, I wanted the story to continue so bad.

Just as in the last book, all plotlines lead to the same place, this time it's Tear. Matt, Aiel, Moiraine's group, girls, Rand. A proper grand finale. I got a glimpse of what the "power ceiling" looks like I think, when Rand wielded Kalimdor and made Ishamael i suppose run like a scared little girl. Straight up reality bending. That whole sequence felt like a fever dream.

Some closing random thoughts>

I felt so much dread finding out the forsaken are already in the world, ruling over nations. In Tear, Illian, potentially in Cairhien...

Belal is such a fraud. Bro thought he would kill Rand wielding Kalimdor (even Ishamael couldn't), only to get murked in one shot by an aies sedai. The dark one must be turning in his prison. Props to Moiraine though, no crazy once-in-an-age kind of power or talent, just wisdom, patience, mastery of what she is capable of.

Speaking of Moiraine, I did listen to New Spring first (not a great choice i know), so I know she is 100% doing her best to help the dragon and stop the dark one, so whenever they doubt her or don't listen to her, it really grinds my gears. I could probably empatize better had I not known she really is dedicating her whole life for the cause.

Celine's omnipresence seems to be because she uses the dream world to travel? It seems she is not fully on the dark one's side, which explains why she doesn't jsut clear the whole white tower during a single night, which she totally could as crazy as it is.

It was so frustrating when the girls are telling Siuan about the Seanchan and she is like, oh that's awful, anyways...I have seen the paralel futures in the last book, in most of them, they conquer the whole continent. They are an existential threat to everything you know, but she mostly dismisses them as some faraway inconvenience. And I like how the news from Toman Head travel through the world and get distorted over time.

And yeah, the Goatchan are not in this book, but I can't wait to see them again. I was very distraught by them in the last book.

Also

They are so useless my goodness. They have a Grima Wormtongue equivalent damn near twirling his evil mustache and their leader just trusts him huh.

Im trying to get back into working my way through this series again after a long hiatus, i restarted the fires of heaven. Is padan faine the thing that was trapped in the city in book 1? Or what actually happened to him? The prologue seems to say that he is but he also references mordeth?

So this is my first time Listening to these books and I've fallen deeply in love with them. They were my Late father's favorite series and has become Mine as well. To be honest I don't want to finish it how I wish I could have talked to him about it but I know he would say The Wheel weaves as The Wheel Wills.