r/vfx • • 2d ago

Question / Discussion how can i remove camera from reflection?

Using adobe premiere and After effects.

Is there an easy ish way to remove the camera operator?

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u/SuperTurboUsername 2d ago

It seems like a very classic:
-clean paint background on one frame
-track background
-roto foreground
done!

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u/CaptainColmyer 2d ago

Honestly you could get away with a white square lmao. Just match the white to the white in the wall already in the reflection. Shape it to the mirror cutting out things like the candles and whatnot that go in front and track it to the actual mirror. In motion you'd never notice it.

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u/ZFCD 2d ago

I was gonna suggest something similar - just drop a giant blur on it like an old PS3 game. Mask around the foreground reflections and play with the opacity on the layers a bit and you got a nice nondescript foggy mirror

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u/Nebula480 2d ago edited 2d ago

put camera by mirror looking at hall. take shot. Motion track that frame on to the mirror

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u/headlessBleu 2d ago

You could roto paint(quickest and easiest but not so much realistic)

or

You could make an HDRI 360 photo of the ambient, track the camera, create a 3d mirror, render the mirror with the camera movement and match on the plate.(way more work but the result will be real as it can get)

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u/Quantity_Lanky 2d ago

Why so elaborated and time-consuming? Just matte paint a clean frame and track it on and roto out the talent. It can all be done in the compositing software they use alone in couple of hours.

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u/headlessBleu 2d ago

I agree. But I still think it worth mentioning. He might need to do that for several shots or need reflections somewhere else.

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u/Quantity_Lanky 2d ago

Fair point.

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u/glintsCollide VFX Supervisor - 25 years experience 2d ago

That second alternative would create no benefits in this case, a 2D track would cover this, and a paintout of the plate itself will likely look the most seamless instead of throwing in a new image source into the mix.

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u/jcarver784 2d ago

The "easy-ness" level of something like this depends on your familiarity with the program and with similar effects. A paint-out like this shouldn't be awful as the clip is relatively short and the camera movement isn't particularly severe. Are you interested in hiring someone to do the paint-out or hoping to complete the shot yourself?

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u/yourtheraputicnugget 2d ago

i'd hire someone if it cost me like 5 aud or less, but i doubt someone's doing it for that price yk
this is just a student film so its not super deep

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u/glintsCollide VFX Supervisor - 25 years experience 2d ago

I do these things all the time, for a paintout this short I’d probably quote an hour, two max. For someone who’s never done it I would expect them to spend a day on it (assuming they have some basic knowledge of the comp app already), I’m sure you could find a bunch of tutorials if you’re serious about it. No point in offering basically zero cash for it though.

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u/yourtheraputicnugget 2d ago

yep thats valid

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u/jcarver784 2d ago

Yeah, hard to say. It's probably at least 4 hours of work to make it look nice, so you'd need someone who wants to do it just for free or for the practice! There are some good suggestions here in the comments, your best bet will be creating a clean frame, tracking it to camera, and rotoing the foreground. I'm sure there are tutorials online if you poke around!

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u/yourtheraputicnugget 2d ago

i appreciate the advice!

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u/jcarver784 12h ago

Any time! Also feel free to DM me, I might be able to help further!

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u/ishant-g 2d ago

Dm me I’m Vfx’s student

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u/Machine-Born Compositor - 3 years experience 2d ago

It would take me a little longer in AE but this would be a quick cleanup in Nuke. I used to do these cleanup shots daily. I might be interested in doing it pro bono for a credit and the practice.