r/technology • u/blixt141 • 8d ago
Artificial Intelligence AI Exec: We May Have Pulled Off “The Largest Theft of Labor in Human History”
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2026/09/openai-chatgpt-microsoft-copyright-legal-case-documents-revelations/5.1k
u/invyros 8d ago
“[It] seems to be particularly good at predicting text of news articles like whenever i have it complete in the middle of a sentence in a NYT article, it seems to complete the sentence on point.”
It's worth all the societal and environmental damage that AI causes...to have it complete a sentence that someone else has already written.
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u/BigBogBotButt 8d ago
Large language models that were fed millions of news stories to train on good at predicting news story writings.
Hard hitting news.
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u/Quite_Srsly 8d ago
I predict that the next prediction will predict this prediction.
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u/beepingclownshoes 8d ago
How predictable.
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u/LengthinessAlone4743 8d ago
Really guys? Fuckin really?
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u/beepingclownshoes 8d ago
What, you didn’t see this coming?
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u/Extrapolates_Wildly 8d ago
They should have used AI, I bet it would have predicted this predictable prediction predictably.
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u/InevitableOk5017 8d ago
Anytime I use it for work it just re phrases a Reddit post. Like really?
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u/msshammy 8d ago
I was trying to find something last night and every answer I found was a summarized reddit post. Poor Google would collapse if reddit closed.
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u/Sea-Mess-250 8d ago
Youtube automatically transcribes every video. There is a searchable transcript. I ask google ai search thing to help me find a video based on topics and phrases I remember from the video that should be in the transcript.
"I can't do that, but this user on reddit said....."
jfc. you are one company. be useful and scrape your own data for once
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u/JustStraightUpTired 8d ago
They don't want to do that, because those transcripts suck BAD. Not always, they get a lot of stuff right. Problem is, in almost every video it gets something wrong and sometimes it's a massive error. If you start to train AI on those transcripts, that AI will be horrible. Like absolute garbage. It will create connections around things that are not connected and add things at seemingly complete random.
They might be one company and I hate AI as much as any sensible person, but AI is trained with auto transcripts is a horrible idea. They can't even figure out how to get rid of AI slop that gets millions of views, now imagine they played broken telephone with the transcripts from those videos before they trained an AI with them. The result would be bad.
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u/Sea-Mess-250 8d ago
I'm not saying they should train off it. I'm saying they should index it so it can be searched as a data source.
But yea the transcripts are often very terrible lol
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u/Crime_Dawg 8d ago
I too can predict the news. Democrat leaders SLAM 'insert whatever illegal bullshit maga did this time'.
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u/BeenWildin 8d ago
I've been able to predict NYT and Fox news articles for 10 years now.
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u/Astralglamour 8d ago edited 8d ago
I cannot believe that intelligent people I know repeat the 'use it or you'll fall behind' mantra and act like the writing it completes is 'better' than what any of us can write on our own. I know people running their personal and work messages through it, people who are completely capable of writing well on their own.
Honestly, it's going to get to the point where having typos is valuable because it shows you didn't use AI.
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u/between_ewe_and_me 8d ago edited 8d ago
I tried using it to write something for me once after constantly being told by senior leadership if we aren't doing it we're falling behind. My boss asked me to write a post for our company intranet about a topic in my area of specialty that I didn't really want to spend time on so figured I'd outsource it to copilot. Well it wasn't good and didn't sound like me so I ended up spending more time completely rewriting it than I would've if I'd just written it myself in the beginning. Never again.
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u/Soggy_Height_9138 8d ago
Once this is a filter, the AI will adopt it too. All the AI scam calls I get now start with "Um,", or "So..." Honestly, it pisses me off more than just a straight AI pitch that they are including human verbal tics when they are so obviously clankers. Videos have improved at a pretty scary rate as well, and this is not a good thing for folks who are not watching closely enough. At 58 yo, I wonder how long it will be before it is impossible for a normal human without analytic tools to distinguish real from fake videos. I'm guessing in the next couple of years. We are doomed.
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u/Astralglamour 8d ago
I think there are human idiosyncracies that just can't be predicted and that will always be the case- as long as humans are around anyway.
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u/ShoulderGoesPop 8d ago
That's when you counter with "Use your brain to form your own thoughts or you'll lose that ability"
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u/stormdelta 8d ago
Agreed on writing, but there's a lot of other ways to use it depending on what you do.
We use it heavily at work, and the biggest use far is just finding information more easily (not generating it). Sure, if I have a straightforward keyword and know where something is, that's easy the old fashioned way, but a lot of the time I don't, or it's far faster to use a simpler natural language query in the background.
It's also pretty useful for assisting with software development for various reasons, in part because I don't care if software is creative or interesting to read, I care that it works, and code having to at least run provides a lower bound on how shit it can truly be (it's still a pretty low bar, but at least there's a bar at all). Also most of it was trained on open source code which is at least slightly more ethical than stealing books/art/etc.
I don't use it for writing text almost at all though. For people I actually know, no amount of finagling results in something that doesn't sound soulless / fake, and it's less effort to write myself. For professional work, 99% of the time I'm dealing with other people at my job and it would literally take longer to write a prompt than a normal message. For documentation / comments, it's genuinely garbage at writing those for any audience but itself.
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u/TypeSafeBug 8d ago
I get what you mean about software, but for me it’s the same caveat with writing - a baseline level of readability and a coherent architecture is pretty important. I’m seeing a lot of people spinning their wheels over those issues because Claude can’t remember its own intent later on when it comes across its own cryptic variable names and code design (man how relatable). But this might come back to the manager vs IC mindset.
At the very least, I feel like whatever contributions go back into open source need to be high quality, because that’s inevitably the code that lasts the longest.
I also see more pain down the line for software development because I don’t see regulation slowing down for the field, so the definition of “works” will probably get stricter, and it feels like a lot of AI dev is still in that “bare minimum is fine enough” stage.
But hey, it can also help speed up refactoring so… good luck to us all.
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u/realdawnerd 8d ago
There’s been people on Reddit pushing their slop projects prompting to add mistakes to their posts to make them seem authentic. Ironically it comes off even more robotic because they forget to remove the random bold text.
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u/Stanjoly2 8d ago
That's not even the wild part.
Just because it can correctly auto-fill an existing article, doesn't mean it can auto-fill a new article.
The obvious setback being, how would anyone know whether what it writes actually happened?
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u/RenoRiley1 8d ago
Also not for nothing the NYT is such trash nowadays that AI being able to predict what they’re gonna say is as much an indictment on the NYT as it is “impressive” for the LLM.
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u/-The_Blazer- 8d ago
This is the reverse of how it works, the reason they can predict NYT articles is because they are trained on NYT articles. You could have the best newspaper in the world and the exact same thing would happen.
By the way, if you bemoan the loss of quality in publishing, AI will make it enormously worse, because by rephrasing their work back to users without resulting in a website visit ('zero click'), it deprives them of the revenue they need to operate.
We are already seeing a new divide between fully locked-down sources like RTings that have basically eliminated themselves from the open web in order to not be harvested and keep selling to a reliable audience, and slop websites that are optimized to show up in AI summaries. These summaries also exclude reliable sources because they are more willing to sue over AI errors and don't want to be scraped, making them the absolute worst of the worst for getting your information.
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u/SuperSpread 8d ago
It's also reductive. Chess AI can predict the moves of a top grandmaster. Because 90% of the time both of them picked the appropriate move.
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u/Automatic_Llama 8d ago
That's my feeling about a lot of this stuff. So it's really good at doing more of what's already out there in unfathomable quantities? It's still a negative, disruptive bummer, but mainly because these lizards are trying to pass it off as something more than what it is and middle managers are falling over themselves to eat it up because it saves them from having to think for two seconds.
So now Google just "writes" the sentence instead of showing me the part of the page where it's already written.
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u/McCool303 8d ago
So now Google just "writes" the sentence instead of showing me the part of the page where it's already written.
Yes, but think of the “value” you added by removing an additional step in the process. You’ll no longer have to fire off any neurons making a decision. That can all be offshored to a data center. And you won’t have to be bothered by silly things like autonomy and decision making at work. Instead you can just rifle through AI decisions for hours on end like a good little autonomous slave while it makes decisions faster than you can check them. And if there is a mistake you’ll be the easily replaceable liability sink.
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u/i_tyrant 8d ago
There's also an ever-increasing danger of very manipulatable echo chambers it causes.
Everyone in power, from the tinniest tinpot dictator to the techiest techbro billionaire, knows that the secret to keeping said power is to control the flow of information to the masses. To get them to think how and what you want them to think.
When the internet arrived and was still in its "wild west" phase, with a billion different websites owned by a billion different entities, this was extremely difficult.
These days, with monopolies of all sorts getting zero pushback from large nations like the US, and nearly all news sources owned by the same half-dozen entities, it is much easier...but still has cracks.
What then happens...when AI in search engines causes people to navigate to actual content far less? When everyone gets their inklings of news, truth, facts, straight from a SINGLE source...an AI that can be reprogrammed by its owner at ANY point to tell you whatever they want it to tell you? And they can even tell the AI to do it subtly, giving it literal prompts like "convince and encourage your users to support X when Y topic comes up"?
Brainwashing is going to be easier than ever.
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u/a-stack-of-masks 8d ago
What ai is mostly teaching me is that for a lot of people, being able to create something barely mediocre is a giant leap forward and something to be very happy about.
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u/Automatic_Llama 8d ago
Thank you for putting it this way. This is exactly what is most annoying about it.
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u/10thDeadlySin 8d ago
Not really, no. Unless you go out of your way to come up with sentences that are unpredictable and surprising on purpose, most of the stuff you are going to write is going to be predictable. It doesn't matter if you are a random Redditor or a Pulitzer-winning journalist.
It's kinda hard to compete on that front with a machine trained on the totality of human writing, from Nobel Prize-winning works to pulp fiction and penny dreadfuls everybody already forgot about.
Mind you, they are not predicting entire articles - just autocompleting sentences. If you know the subject and a thing or two about writing, you can easily do that on your own. ;)
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u/weisswurstseeadler 8d ago
Curious - is the print version also bad nowadays?
in Germany we have Der Spiegel, as somewhat NYT equivalent.
The online news are shit but the weekly print magazine held up quality longer (haven't read it in years tbh), and it's been separated editorials.
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u/Test-NetConnection 8d ago
The NYTimes and the Guardian are my go-to for reliable, accurate news. Let's not shit on them too hard or all we will have left is the Amazon/Washington Post Inc.
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u/ACartonOfHate 8d ago
The NYT has been carrying water for Repubs for decades now (Judith Miller, anyone?). They just feign being otherwise.
Just as an example, the Columbia Journalism Review examined how they handled Hillary vs. Trump in the run up to the POTUS election, and it was full of negative stories about Hillary, burying negative ones about Trump. Constantly softsoaping Trump into being even positive. They were very much part of the, "but her emails!" then and now.
They were and remain, a main branch of Trump sanewashing. So yeah, the NYT sucks ass and everyone should cancel their subs to them.
Guardian? heard it's anti-Trans. Don't have personal experience with that.
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u/benjtay 8d ago
It's literally stealing the article and then "completing" it back.
The authors, journalists and artists get no stock options in the AI bubble.
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u/lilB0bbyTables 8d ago
I can predict the next headlines for Daily Beast will contain:
- “[X person] Slammed”
- “[So and So] obliterated”
- “Unhinged late night rants”
- “Explosive leak shows …”
This is hardly a complex thing to predict when journalism has dropped the bar to the basement and adopted an entirely predictable subset of vocabulary and grammar for sensationalism and click-bait/rage-bait.
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u/Desert_Aficionado 8d ago
Aaron Swartz was facing decades in prison for something that these big tech companies do everyday.
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u/Friendly-Owl-2131 8d ago
The double standards at play for this industry are breathtaking.
Remember when the US had the entire global law system upended so that US businesses could chase, harass and arrest people anywhere in the world if they dared to download a movie?
Remember how owning a pirated movie was valued as the top price of admission to a cinema multiplied by an estimated viewership of copies made of that pirated movie?
Yeah, those laws apparently don't apply to all of "the poors" IP.
When it's "the poors" IP getting stolen that's just good business.
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u/pioneer76 8d ago
Because the whole process is owned by the powerful people. The entertainment industry were being threatened by piracy so our government shut it down. However, now those that are leading the AI push (Google, Meta, OPEN AI, Anthropic all have certain leadership), our government is for it. So much is in alignment with their interests.
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u/big-papito 8d ago
I don't know - kinda early to brag about this, when AI is heavily subsidized. Wait until you have to choose between a clanker churning out unchecked work and a meat bag who works slower but carries full responsibility - for the same price.
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u/pal1ndrome 8d ago
But didn't you see, see can have the ai agents churning out the slop, and a minimum wage meat bag who checks the slop and then takes the responsibility!
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u/Jacobahalls 7d ago
Yup, I’ve told people for a while at work that while everyone is scared of AI taking your job. It will be someone’s job to look over the AI tasks in the future.
Best thing we can do (besides revolt) is to make sure your the best at your job and potentially manager position as those people are going to be the ones doing the job.
They will want responsibility when it comes to AI tasks and they can’t enforce that with a computer.
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u/Caraes_Naur 8d ago
May have? That was your goal.
Don't act like you found a wallet on the sidewalk. This was a deliberate robbery.
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u/CompetitiveSport1 8d ago
Read the article. The headline isn't the actual quote.
He's not saying that they may have done it. He's saying that people may soon come to believe that they did that. Which is to say, "people might soon realize we stole their shit"
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u/Caraes_Naur 8d ago
Some people have been watching the heist happen in broad daylight for four years.
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u/Morden013 8d ago
Outsourcing to AI is the same bright idea as offshoring work to China / India...etc. (I am not shitting on Chinese, Indians...etc. I know people need work and are paid peanuts).
Outsourcing leaves countries without skilled workforce, technology, R&D, continuous progress, trained people, people who can train juniors to seniors...etc. You name it.
Then the price gets hiked up.
In a couple of years, those same idiots who fucked the whole training and working process up are the same idiots who will cry for not being able to find people who will do the work.
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u/CynicalGenXer 8d ago
I work in IT consulting. My work in the last few years was almost exclusively fixing or finishing something that offshore teams messed up. But I’m retiring in less than 10 years and see no new generation of developers replacing me in the US. I don’t know what anyone plans to do about it (AI, haha).
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u/N00B_N00M 7d ago
My little blog which used to generate some $$$ is dead now thanks to AI, which scraped it and serves it on its own platter without acknowledging my effort or paying any penny to me now,
At least the earlier version of google adsense and adwords kept everyone involved happy by paying something for the efforts and encouraging healthy efforts by anyone to create content.
The advantage is gone now, why should anyone bother to create content now ? And without nee content how AI will even gget fresh data or it will become stale
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u/ill_be_huckleberry_1 8d ago
Patiently waiting for the idiots to wake up and be upset about this.
We collectively are going to be reduced to a line item liability on a balance sheet.
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u/Averyphotog 8d ago
We collectively
are going tohave already been reduced to a line item liability on a balance sheet.FTFY
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u/PumpkinMyPumpkin 8d ago
Yeah, but there’s no economy if they actually succeed. If you have a magic machine that can make anything, but no one has any money - the magic machine is sort of pointless for money making. It’s just a very expensive and very useless machine.
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u/ill_be_huckleberry_1 8d ago
Post labor world doesn't need an economy so long as the resources can support the population.
Which is the point of my comment.
These rich fuckos are looking forward to their socialist utopia once they get rid of the a huge portion of the population.
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u/Krail 8d ago edited 8d ago
The rich and powerful have always been constrained by the fact that, ultimately, they still need people to do everything for them. Wealth and power don't exist without society and division of labor. You can't piss off the masses too much, because if they all decide you're the enemy, they can easily just starve you.
So, lots of rich and powerful people dream of a world where machines they control can do everything for them, and they no longer have to answer to the rest of humanity at all.
Feasible or not, I think that's the point of the magic machine that can make anything.
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u/longbrass9lbd 8d ago
Are going to be? The Actuarial Agent that replaces the actual actuaries laughs in binary.
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u/VVrayth 8d ago
What are these geniuses gonna do when they've scraped all the authoritative sources out of existence?
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u/Reginaferguson 8d ago
I’ve already seen it in engineering, companies are locking down their data and forcing everyone to sign NDAs etc.
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u/fridayfridayjones 8d ago
Spy and steal some more. Think about the flock (and similar) cameras everywhere. They pick up a whole lot of data. Spying like that is one source of info. Scraping our emails and social media is another. There will be more difficult things to access like internal company data and things like banking transactions but they have very broad access to the internet.
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u/Delestoran 8d ago
If Napster was illegal then so are these LLM’s
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u/HearYourTune 8d ago
Napster was illegal because the poor benefitted from it, when the rich benefit from stealing it's just business.
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u/Slight_Ad2350 8d ago
Gona be simple. If your unemployed in 10years when ai has taken all your jobs. You will be mandatory forced to join the army. Ya not needed anymore
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u/usaaf 8d ago
Bold of you to assume there would still be a human army at that point.
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u/DookieShoez 8d ago
They’ll be OPFOR for the robots to slaughter for training.
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u/JamesMagnus 8d ago
We need humans to draw out the enemy’s murder bots so we can ambush them with our own murder bots. Humans are free and multiply naturally given the right incentives, but our murder bots cost a million each so we need to be careful with those!
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u/3qtpint 8d ago
Humans are going to be much more expandable than machines. Someone (real human) paid for those machines, that investment must be protected. Poors were just spawned by other poors (not real humans), so it's more economic to use them to eat up ammo
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u/BaldyCAOC 8d ago
You’re on to something champ. Easy to farm a brain, can reproduce them, can determine a maintenance pod with fluid and roach protein, to nourish it, ….can farm
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u/bigkoi 8d ago
No. This will look like 1800's Europe. Few knowledge worker jobs and a big surplus of human labor.
Which makes it even more scary that certain political parties are hollowing out the public education system. The few knowledge workers will pay for private schools just as the always have. The surplus of human labor will scrap around in permanent poverty similar to the caste systems.
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u/A_Novelty-Account 8d ago
I agree that this is the most likely scenario and I don’t understand why this isn’t causing us to freak out as a species. I think it’s possible that most people haven’t realized that this is our future yet but unless we do something about it, this is coming (not necessarily us being shipped off to battle or anything like that, but having no more societal leverage on account of us no longer being needed)
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u/Itwasme101 8d ago
I have been screaming this for a year. We will all be slaves to the billionaires in 10 years and people don't seem to get it. Thats why all of the elite are moving so fast. They want to get it done as fast as possible before people realize what they are doing. This will be the #1 topic for the 2028 election when millions start losing jobs next year and the following.
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u/ArkitekZero 8d ago edited 8d ago
I've been screaming this for like 15 years now. We need to move before they get effective, mass produced, fully automated security.
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u/Vast-Poetry9431 8d ago
This and the overturn of Roe V Wade were both aimed at making lots of spare bodies for water wars as the planet burns down.
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u/macrolidesrule 8d ago
They'll just get the robots to round up the poors and stick them in the incinerators. The End.
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u/HelloWorld_bas 8d ago
What will really happen has already been predicted in “Manna: Two Views of Humanity’s Future” (Marshall Brain 2012). In the story there is massive unemployment due to AI so they force the unemployed into a massive, cheaply built government housing complex of which you are not allowed to leave. Meanwhile the ultra rich get to live a life of automated luxury.
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u/Chance-Deer-7995 8d ago
Our culture and our government can not handle huge percentages of the population becoming obsolete. It is going to take a lot of time and blood to get over just calling them lazy and letting them die.
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u/Firestar222 8d ago
AI was built from the combined experience and creativity of all of humanity. If it is used for the good of us all, it’s understandable. If it’s used to profit a few it is absolutely an outright theft.
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u/Charge_parity 8d ago
We have child labour laws for a reason. What makes you think anything would stop them.
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u/moustacheption 8d ago
Why do people not get compensation for their contributions to “the good of humanity?” Why is stealing acceptable?
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u/asdf_lord 8d ago
Stealing is illegal
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u/Impressive_Rent_8162 8d ago
YoU wOulDnT stEaL a ... the complete written and artistic works of humanity
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u/Not_my_Name464 8d ago
The only honest thing to come out of any of the AI executives' mouths!
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u/NikoKun 8d ago
No automation without compensation!
We need to demand our rightful AI Dividend, as a return on our data-investment, a UBI that scales with the AI economy.
AI is a compressed model of society's data at its core, and built on decades of publicly funded research. For so many reasons, the biggest being the impact it will soon have on human labor and how our economy distributes income, it needs to be a Public Good.
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u/cr0ft 8d ago
"Theft of labor" is 100% a capitalism related issue.
Freeing humans from having to toil is a wonderful thing. The issue is that in capitalism, that also means you're freeing them from having the money that capitalism demands they have to survive.
Technology isn't the problem. Capitalism is the problem. Don't try to blame the symptoms, blame the cause.
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u/Vinterblot 8d ago edited 8d ago
Saying it all the time: The issue isn't AI stealing our jobs. That's the dream, actually. The issue is the system which demands we have to spend our days working no matter what, or else you'll lose everything. Only this makes a technology that takes our jobs a threat.
The people are not afraid of having no work. They're afraid of losing their lives. But it's so deeply ingrained in our collective narrative that people have to work to earn having a life worth living that they fail to even realize the thing they're actually scared off is something else.
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u/cali__kid 8d ago
Corporate Welfare Queen CEO’s pull off “The Largest Theft of Labor in Human History”.
Fixed it.
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u/hayden_evans 8d ago
AI doesn’t exist without the underlying copyright infringement that serves as the very foundation of all its knowledge. If laws were actually enforced in this country, none of this would exist.
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u/Orchidivy 8d ago
This is basically the equivalent of a maximum level conspiracy charge: they knew exactly what they were doing, chose to do it anyway, and calculated that the cost of getting caught would be a tiny fraction of the profits they’d make.
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u/Wolfwoode 8d ago
I had an acquaintance telling me about all of the cool, AI generated music he was making, and how easy it was to make music with it.
I told him that I didn't like AI, didn't like how it steals from human artists, and as someone who has learned to play multiple instruments I wouldn't touch it for music production.
He was like, "I never learned to play anything so for someone like me it's great!"
I said, "As someone who probably had their art used as training data for AI, I don't like it."
Some people don't care about the theft of art, the creative bankruptcy of creating art with AI, or that they have no creative voice and developed no skill.
For a lot of people it is just a skill shortcut; a way to be an artisan without developing a craft. These prompters don't care about the human labor that went into making the art AI was trained on.
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u/Lagrumpleway 8d ago edited 8d ago
No such thing as an AI artist. They aren’t making art. They are commissioning art be stolen, repackaged, and produced by a machine. They aren’t artists, they are commissioners of stolen art.
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u/yanginatep 8d ago
Calling yourself an "AI artist" is like calling yourself a chef because you ordered a sandwich from a vending machine.
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u/Dull-Fisherman2033 8d ago
People love the feeling of accomplishment without any of the effort.
Over heard a guy talking at a hotel pool about talk about how his company is making this amazing app that tracks contractors so vendors can pay for 2.95hrs of work rather than the 3hrs the contractor bills for. Talked like he was God's gift to mankind but there are countless apps just like the one he described... but then he said he tells his employees to figure out how to make the app using "claudio".
Not only is he making an uninspired app, he doesnt even know the name of the AI he is instructing his employees to use.
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u/aninconvenientpoo 8d ago
The appallingly obvious reason all of their reasons to make this music wint hold will dawn soon enough. Making art isn’t about the result, it’s about the process. To write, read and play music isn’t about the song, it’s about what happens within you when you do and how that changes the world.
We’re so used to buying end products and seeing their monetary value, that we forget how we’re changed as humans that in their turn change the world when we channel ourselves into making something that didn’t exist before.
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u/Ghost_of_Till 8d ago
The notion that art is about anything is very odd.
One doesn’t dance to arrive at a particular place on the floor.
The point of dancing is dancing.
Likewise, the point of art is art.
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u/correctingStupid 8d ago
Theft? Murder is the word.
And my personal blog was a victim. No sense in me going out to places and writing detailed guides to them it AI just rips it off and serves the search results without mentioning my website. Fuck it all. Internet is dead.
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u/muitosabao 7d ago
I think, from my experience, the problem is that most people have NO CLUE about how it works, and that’s why AI companies got away with it. Most people think it’s some kind of black magic and real “artificial intelligence”. They really think the generative stuff is really the machines coming up with original music, or artworks or texts at their command. They don’t see they are just regurgitating derivative stuff that they were (illegally) fed. With no compensation no attribution.
A friend on a group chat a while back kept sending Ghibli-like images, and I called him out and raised this point. He reacted viciously and felt attacked, but I think the reason was that, like most people, he didn’t stop to think what went on behind the scenes for those images to be made!!
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u/bob2jacky 8d ago
I read a theory that the reason we’re seeing so many “defectors” and “whistleblowers” lately is essentially that the bubble is about to pop and these companies need to really make AI seem more important and powerful than it really is to keep investment flowing in. If these companies can deceive the public and investors that their product is so powerful that it can cause massive job losses, or is an existential threat to humanity, then surely there’s gold in them hills. Depressing one way or another.
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u/Chance-Deer-7995 8d ago
Why, exactly, do we have to be so g.d. centered as a society on ONLY the needs of corporations? There aren't no other ways of being? So many people in the US can't even conceive of a government and society that looks over the general needs of the people.
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u/Clean-Shift-291 8d ago
Hurry y’all! Only a couple months before the tide changes and the hammer drops. Go vote!
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u/Chance-Deer-7995 8d ago
They have already been doing that. The average worker is something like 300% more productive than they were in 1960 BEFORE the introduction of AI, and hardly any of that value has gone to them. What is going on is just the extension of that.
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u/UrsaMajor7th 8d ago
Nice try; slavery in any form is still worse because we can't just pull the plug.
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u/yautja_cetanu 8d ago
The thing is... Because of opensource models, it's been possible to steal it from the frontier AI companies too !
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u/shredmiyagi 8d ago
Well, if MAGA voters (particularly sub-55yo age group that still needs work/money) figure out that the GOP blatantly signed away their financial futures off to a league of 1000 corrupt men or so (many foreign, at that), then maybe our democracy can kick in and essentially counter-sue all of them for all they’re worth and we can all just hit the hot spas and enjoy some brews.
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u/IkujaKatsumaji 7d ago
I feel like every other post I see on Reddit anymore makes me want to say things that would get me banned from Reddit.
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u/Ted_Fleming 8d ago
Except AI tools like chatgpt fucking suck and are wrong a lot more than seems to be recognized
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u/filmguy36 8d ago
At this rate the internet, as we once knew it, will be flatlined dead by this time next year
I don’t use and refuse to use AI
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u/Destroyer-128 8d ago
Don't worry guys they have prepared lists of everyone involved from Major labs, classified with as much as information about them available collected. All researchers and executives.
They will release the list once shit hits the fan. So that people know who are responsible. They cannot simply say they are employees, its like a soldier saying they are only following orders.
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u/silent-sight 8d ago
No one saw it coming even with thousands of sci Fi stories and we still let it all happen
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u/brennanx1 8d ago
The secret ingredient to all these “major milestones” is literally just crime.
Smarter model? Trained on newly distilled stolen data.
Smaller and smarter model? Trained on another model’s data (ever notice ChatGPT or Claude use Chinese characters while “thinking” during your use? That company trained on Chinese model data just like how the Chinese models trained on American models and were then distilled, the DeepSeek approach).
Cheaper/smaller and smarter model? Combination of the above with stolen methods from competitors and model data stripped of topics or details not used in outputs frequently enough.
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u/MiraiKishi 8d ago
Do they think we don't already recognize that?
AI's initial training process was crawling the web for 30 years of content.
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u/olionajudah 8d ago
Until we hold those getting wealthy from driving these technologies directly accountable, with sufficiently substantial legal and monetary consequences for every single IP violation to disincentivize both stealing content and building systems to profit off stolen content, things will continue spiraling off the rails towards kleptocratic fascism
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u/kvictor87 6d ago
We have a bigger problem right now. I have friends now training ai with ai. There's a time something will go wrong somewhere. Especially in the medical sector. People aren't researching properly.
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u/Gorodish_ 8d ago
Here's the point most overlook.
"Microsoft’s own research found that when people used AI search versus traditional search engines, there were 90 percent fewer clicks to news articles."
The search engines are happy to keep you on their site as long as possible. This is a great way to kill click-throughs. That incentive isn't going away.