r/technology • u/ArgentineBeauty • 21d ago

Artificial Intelligence Bernie Sanders proposes 20 year prison sentence for AI devs who plow ahead with Artificial Superintelligence plans - penalty on par with illegally developing rogue nuclear weapons

https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/artificial-intelligence/sanders-proposes-20-year-prison-sentence-for-ai-devs-who-plow-ahead-with-artificial-superintelligence-plans-penalty-on-par-with-illegally-developing-rogue-nuclear-weapons
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u/rhyddev 21d ago

I get where Bernie is coming from, but I believe so-called "superintelligence" and "AGI" are marketing gimmicks - you don't get there with just LLMs. All this fear-mongering by AI companies is to drive up the value of their stock and, perhaps - as the article suggests - latch on to the government's tit as "strategic/dangerous tech" at a time when their financial viability is under question. Maybe it is the normal response to inflated claims to attract inflated regulation and penalties, but I think both the public and lawmakers need a better BS meter when it comes to claims from the Altmans and Amodeis of the word.

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u/Lookingforjustice223 21d ago

I think the same thing. I used to do a lot of RLHF work for different LLMs in the US and in China and I just think the superintelligence and AGI claims are very similar to the auto CEOs talking about self-driving cars by 2023, 15 years ago. Maybe I'm too cynical, but I just don't see it happening for a long, long time.

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u/brutinator 21d ago

I mean, a big difference is if auto makers were right, it ultimately wouldnt have that much of a detrimental impact of society (I guess outside of the taxi and rideshare industries).

If the AI fearmongering is right, then the risk of detrimental impact is far, far greater.

I also agree that LLM is a likely dead end, or only an interfacing layer solution of the onion of AGI, but AI companies could be working on other AGI paths without publishing about it, couldnt they? Maybe thats too conspiratorial though.

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u/Lookingforjustice223 21d ago

Yeah, that's a good point. I'm not too plugged into the industry in the US anymore but I have a lot of friends in China who work on exactly what you're describing and it's absolutely not something they put out there publicly. They even keep it pretty under wraps internally. Obviously they don't talk a lot about their day to day work with me, but even if they did, I'm not nearly smart enough to understand what they do.

So maybe I should change my opinion that I don't think it's far away, but more hope it's far away lol.

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u/Justausername1234 21d ago

But we do have self driving cars in 2026, in fact, you can ride one right now, for a fairly affordable price!

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u/Lookingforjustice223 21d ago

Yeah, they exist in a way, but not in any form that was promised. I was specifically thinking of the quote by Ford CEO Mark Fields when he said "Ford will be mass producing fully autonomous vehicles in 2021. No steering wheel. No gas pedal. No brake pedal."

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u/Designer_Respect4285 21d ago

And you think you know better than Turing award winners, other AI researchers, and superforecasters why? What are your qualifications? Do you at least have a relevant degree from MIT, Stanford etc?