Hi, this is my first time posting on Reddit so idk how this will be received but I hope it reaches the right people and I can learn from my lack of experiences.
Story:
I (23M) and Jane Doe (28F) met through bouldering some time around this year May. We chatted, worked on some boulder problems and exchanged Instagram, the usual I’ve done that with plenty of people because bouldering is a social sport. The day after, I messaged her to thank her for chatting and bouldering with me and I asked her if she wanted to climb to climb again to which she said yes and asked her if she wanted to watch a movie tgt and she also said yes to that but that never happened because of both of our time constraints. I’m an engineering student and she’s a nurse going through her placements. (This was in May)
A month gone by, I thought to myself “ohh she’s just gonna be another climbing acquaintance that’s gonna be added to my list that I’ve met once, exchanged contact but will never meet again”. To my surprised, she reached out asking how I was doing, how I’ve been and we organised another climbing together. We climbed for nearly 5-6 hours, got dinner, got desserts, she drove me home and we yapped in her car in front of my place till 1 am. After that outing, I realized that I really enjoyed having her around and I feel really like myself, not having to hide any aspects of myself (I’m straight but I’m somewhat androgynous presenting, I paint my nails etc) and she made me feel seen and didn’t judge me for that. For someone you’ve just met twice, we talked abt a lot of personal things that you typically don’t talk with someone, like relationships, religion, personal values, future goals (we’re both international students in Australia) etc. (this was in June)
Another month or two go by, I was busy with uni, she was busy with her placement plus she went back home to her family for a month and there were minimal interactions between us for that period. Late August arrives, she invited me to climb again but this time was with her climbing friends, we haven’t seen each other for nearly 2 months so I felt really elated to meet her again. We did the usual again but just this time with her friends. Climbed, got dinner, got desserts, everyone part ways and I was with her and another friend and she dropped me off. The following day after, she texted me saying “sorry that we didn’t get to talk much yesterday, I’m not good with group outings” to which I told her it was fine and I don’t mind. (This was late August)
Now we’ve reached a period where our meeting frequencies increased and each gap shortened. We start meeting each other or with her friends once to twice a week. We met the following week to climb again with her friends, did the usual again (surprise surprise). At this point in time, I’ve learned that she’s currently looking for a serious relationship, she broke up with her partner some time around March this year, she knows that I’m single and I’m not dating anybody. The next week, we climbed again just me, her and my roomie, same thing. After that we met briefly for abt 5-10 mins the next few days because I accidentally forgot to give her back her accessories cuz she left it in my bag when we climbed and I gifted her a miffy keychain because prior to that she kept on commenting how cute my miffy keychain was and she seem infatuated by it so I did that as a thoughtful gesture to her and I guess possibly signal to her that I might be more than just a neutral friend. She said thank you and took it and she drove back to her place. What I didn’t expect was she posting the miffy on her story, tagging me and putting my name on her story and telling me how sweet I was to do that for everybody to see to which I felt somewhat embarrassed but happy that she went out of way to do that just for a small gift from me.
Following week, I did some reflection and it dawned upon me that she’s mostly just been initiating these outings outside of one instance where I asked if she wanted to climb again and see the movies when we met early on. I felt like I had to at least initiate because I guess as a guy, the last thing I want to be is to be a needy creep and I was cautious with how I initiated and I wanted her to feel comfortable around me. So after a bit of time and courage, I asked her if she wanted to go to a resto with me and she agreed, we went out together just the two of us, spent time walking around, got dinner, sat in a cafe, yapped till late, we’re learning more and more abt each other and in head, I thought this was when we were assessing each other’s long term compatibility, we both wanted to stay in Australia, she doesn’t want kids, I also don’t want kids etc. Anyway, we yapped more on the train
to home, said our goodbyes and parted ways (we live close by each other)
Next week, she invited me to climb again plus with her roomie, again, did the usual. The only thing significant abt this outing was she asked me if I had any pursuers and if I’m currently open to a relationship atm to which I said yes while we were in the car with her roomie (her roomie doesn’t really understand and speak good English for). The following day, me and my roomie wanted to find resto recommendations and I asked Jane Doe for recommendations, she listed and asked if I wanted to explore the area tgt with her because she does not like going out alone. To which I obv said yes.
At this point in I felt really happy that I might have found somewhat that I’m interested in because I have never been in a relationship before and only been in one situationship. I don’t think I was delusional to think that she might have some interest in me or at the very least suspects that I’m interested in her. Since I am human and flawed, I tried my best to not have any confirmation bias when we interacted and looked at only the significant interactions.
My last outing with her which was yesterday, we climbed with her friends, got dinner with me, her and her friend (we’ll call him bob if he needs to be brought up). We were just chatting and it led to sexual orientation, and she asked bob if he was straight and he said yeah, she asked me I said yeah (she already knew this and ig asked it in a joking manner) and I asked Helen if she was straight and she told me’s bi (which I obv don’t mind). I was talking and I said sth like “I know a lot of gay guys and bi women but not too many bi guys or lesbians” and she was like “I can be your lesbian friend”, I responded “wdym you’re half gay” and that’s when she dropped the bomb shell of a news to both me and bob at the resto at dinner that she was dating another woman.
My heart sank, hollowed and emptied when those words came out of her, I was holding back my composure, tears, emotions and everything and pretended to be normal and partake in our dinner and outing. I wanted to go home, I wanted to leave, I wanted to cry. On the same night as we were walking back to car, I asked if her parents knew she was bi and she told me mom knows but is in denial, and her father doesn’t know. Then I she also told me that she preferably would rather be a guy so that she doesn’t have to deal with the fallout and repercussions of being in a same sex relationship. Then I asked her why is she then in a relationship with another woman and that’s also when I found that Jane Doe is currently just in talking stages but not dating.
We drove bob to the station and I’m left with her… again but this time I really wanted to go home but she asked if you wanted to yapped more and I said with hesitation, sure. In my head I really wanted to go home but saying no to her invites just didn’t feel like a very me thing to do. We go desserts, yapped for an hour. I asked her why not bring Jason to dessert to which she said “oh yeah we could have but she doesn’t feel comfortable talking with him abt a lot of things because they are not close” and later learned that I somehow became her closest climbing friend despite being her newest friend to climbing.
And now I’m here in my room, on a cloudy day ruminating, writing this to seek support and opinions. I am anxious, sad, confused, lost and hopeless.
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**TL;DR; : why did she**.
-Spent her free time with me
-talked continuously without getting bored of one another
-asked me so much abt relationship status
-apologized for not spending enough time with me
-kept on pushing our outings tgt further by having dinner, desserts, yapping when she could have ended it if she wanted to
-posted my gifts with my name for all her friends to see
-asked me abt my long term goals
-told me that she’s currently looking for a serious relationship
-invited to spend one one one time with her looking for restos
Am I being deluded by thinking that she has to at the very least suspect that I am not neutral and possibly interested in her and if she doesn’t feel comfortable with that fact, she could have distanced herself from me but she does the complete opposite. That’s why I am just right now confused, am I missing something?
Thank you for taking your time to read my story