r/pakistan • • 19h ago

Discussion Why are cars so expensive?

In pakistan basically every cars price is tripled. Look at the BMW i7, it’s used as a taxi in Europe yet literally one of the most elite cars you can find in Pakistan. Camry is thought to be a budget car in Europe meanwhile in pakistan it costs 1CR. Why is this the case?

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u/Anonymous_ANYT 19h ago

BMW i7s are NOT used as taxis in europe mate. dk where you're getting your info from. They usually use a 3 series or lower for uber and stuff.

that said, pakistan has over 400% tax on import luxury cars, which explains the price.

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u/Revolutionary_Bed431 18h ago

Well the OP is sort of correct. The i7 is used by chauffeurs.
I see them daily where I work dropping off and picking up senior leaders, share holders etc.

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u/beekay86 16h ago

No they’re not. And don’t confuse high-end chauffeur driven luxury vehicles to what OP is trying to infer. Also, it would be incredibly stupid for a poor country to not have an import tax

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u/Revolutionary_Bed431 16h ago

Hence why I said ‘sort of correct…’ both carry fee paying customers.

Near enough anyone in the UK/Europe can lease one and become a high-end executive travel provider.

Obviously can’t do so Pakistan. Well probably not anyone at least.

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u/beekay86 15h ago

You’re not sort or correct. You’re wrong. And its fine to admit being wrong sometimes. I have learned all that I have learned by not being right all the time.

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u/Revolutionary_Bed431 15h ago

Cool. 👌🏾

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u/[deleted] 15h ago

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u/beekay86 14h ago

Bilal kon hai?

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u/Anonymous_ANYT 18h ago

the i7 is used for similar purposes here too..

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u/gandalf_the_Orange1 14h ago

In that context even Rolls Royces are also used as chauffeurs to take passengers to and from Burj-Al-Arab.

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u/Last_Half_8476 18h ago

Chauffeurs also drive mercedes even rolls royce. It depends who their clientele is. They aint picking up just anyone in bmws, mercedes and rolls royce.

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u/Revolutionary_Bed431 18h ago edited 18h ago

A chauffeur-driven vehicle and taxi (taximeter cab) offer the same service. They transport fee-paying persons. So what’s your point?
I could go to an executive travel service and hire a I7 or a Rolls Royce to take me to the airport… I’m an ‘anybody’ and just hired one.

Here’s a link if you ever want to hire one.

https://vipcarriagechauffeurs.com/chauffeur-services/airport-transfers

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u/PerpetualDilemma گلگت بلتستان 9h ago

A private jet and an economy class ticket offer the same service. Both fly you from point A to B.

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u/Aameeyur 18h ago

Driving a swift here is relative to having a BMW abroad. Take comfort in that!

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u/RoyalSpecky 18h ago edited 13h ago

I7s are not used as taxis in Europe in London you may see them alot with drivers as wealthy indivuals reside and tend to use either s class or i7. And also taxis in Europe are usually Toyota's skodas or Renault's bro and Pakistans high car costs due to low competition on local manufactured cars and high import taxes on foreign cars

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u/ofm1 19h ago

Poor economy leads to higher taxes which causes high car prices. Couple that with extremely low buying power of people & your car market dies. Plus Camry is considered a normal car in North America & the Middle East but not in Europe.

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u/Apprehensive-Print33 US 18h ago

Basic i7 is msrp 106k in US. Are you sure it’s run as taxi?

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u/Revolutionary_Bed431 18h ago

It’s heavily used as a chauffeur vehicle here in the UK. Not exactly a taxi but not far off.

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u/Apprehensive-Print33 US 18h ago

Ahh I see. I guess the answer to opp is custom duties in Pakistan. They probably make they cars way more expensive than they should be

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u/YouDontMessWithJim 18h ago

It’s around 70k in European countries

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u/Adventurous-Cash2044 15h ago

1 crore comes out to 36k. That’s about right for entry level Camry in the US. You can even get corollas for more in the US

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u/alibukharishah 12h ago

i7s aren’t commonly used as regular cabs or Ubers. They’re expensive enough that using one commercially doesn’t make much financial sense. If you do see one being used for Uber, chances are the owner is doing it part-time to help manage the payments.

That said, the underlying point is valid. A Camry is an normal, practical workhorse in many countries. In Pakistan, however, extremely high import duties and taxes make even relatively ordinary vehicles disproportionately expensive.

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u/supaaaherohehe 17h ago

1st world country vs 3rd world country. Answers all your questions

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u/TheNotSpecialOne 15h ago

All I see are Toyota's as taxi here

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u/HopingillWin 14h ago

In Germany there are many taxis that are mercedes. In other countries there seen as a luxury only vehicle. I think sometimes a local view distorts the global perception, maybe same here?

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u/izhar12 18h ago

1 cr for Camry lol

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u/1n1t2w1nIt 17h ago

There aren't a lot of ways for the government to raise revenues as Pakistan is primarily a consumption based economy.

Taxing vehicle's has been one of the more better ways to raise revenues.

Thar is why they are never going to go down the path of lowering custom duties of vehicles.

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u/pakwatan5231 16h ago

Because of the import duty taxes. Currency conversion and overall governance of Pakistan

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u/ell-ta 15h ago

Your analysis isn’t right!

A) BMW is a taxi in Europe why? Because it is German engineering and that’s their loyalty to a local and an EU brand.

B) Camry isn’t common in Europe (only certain countries) as they can’t opt for Japanese cars directly, refer to A again.

C) Camry is preferred by common man as it’s Japanese engineering and there is no doubts about it and i don’t have doubts on it. Even Americans are in awe of Japanese engineering. I personally have live in 4 continents and always opted Toyota as a first car.

D) why cars are expensive in Pakistan courtesy taxes, the government etc, and the way prices are inflated, currency, income level, median-household income etc

You question is more of an economic question

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u/Competitive-Bass-756 14h ago

BMW i7 as taxis? Are you mad or what. 99% of taxis in UK are Toyota prius , corrola or Skoda . No on could afford to buy and run and i7 for a taxi lol

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u/sahil_2025 14h ago

Reason behind it, Pakistan's corrupt elite wants difference between normal taxpayers and resource looted elite.........credit goes to West Pindi Company......

https://reddit.com/link/pdttw0h/video/dd3oyfi32hth1/player

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u/Saadi_me 12h ago

and the ones you do find for cheap are older than the country and the most barebones car you can find. entry level cars didn't even have airbags until half a decade ago! and even those are beyond what the average pakistani can afford

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u/PossibleArt7440 7h ago

bmw i7 are luxury cars across the globe.
so are lexus.
Cadillacs
eventhough they are used to chauffeur people around.

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u/KhalilMirza 6h ago

Pakistan is one of 11 countries that manufacture cars. Since we do not have huge consumer base. Not even 5 lac new cars are sold each year in total. Without that margins are very weak. There is no benefit for companies to invest more and bring the cost down.

If we import cars with same level of tax of our local manufactured cars, we will get cheaper cars. More inline with international prices before tax. But we loose good jobs and we save some dollars as well.

In my opinion, we should not block international cars at all. We should only have a cap according to our dollar reserves. We should more basic manufacturing first then step by step we reach at cars. Then companies do not have to develop the entire supply chain.

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u/NamiIsLif 3h ago

Op Bhai. Where do you find I7 taxis? I mostly see Toyotas, teslas and Chinese Ev's. For more luxury ones they use Mercedes. (Lives in norway)

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u/Rakeboiii مُلتان 19h ago

Such cars are considered a luxury in Pakistan, and hence, taxed as such.

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u/Downtown_Nerve_ 19h ago

Luxury for us, Necessity for them.

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u/FakeKhan99 PK 16h ago

https://giphy.com/gifs/SaJLhvMPUAiWI

go to Europe if u don't like Pakistan

who the hell told u i7 as taxi in uk like in uae(Dubai) that,s possible but not Europe.

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u/_Affan_ 19h ago

Our currency do not allow us to have BMW as taxi.

Currency can be improved if we start building things rather than buying everything from international market.

Till then, survive.

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u/pizzaboy235 17h ago

The i7 is one ugly car. Too big for UK roads. In Pakistan, you'll have import tax.