With many recent games with RT being CPU-heavy, like Outer Worlds 2, I decided to test out 14900KS vs 9800X3D in 5 RT/PT games that I had played. With CapFrameX, I took 3 one minute runs in CPU-limited areas and then aggregated them.

All RT/PT settings were enabled at 4k w/ DLSS Ultra Performance on a 5090.

Results : Surprisingly, 14900KS was faster overall, with better 1% lows even if the averages matched. Only Outer Worlds 2 that started this, was better on 9800X3D.

Oblivion and Stalker2 were quite better on intel. Cyberpunk is close despite the 9800X3D winning the benchmark by a big margin and the 1% is again better on KS.

Details : 14900KS used 8200C38 XMP DDR5, and 9800X3D used 6000C30 sweet-spot DDR5. Disabled overlays, power monitoring, HwInfo64 for these tests. Currently the CPUs were at stock, no PBO and undervolting etc. done. Will update these after some RAM OC.

With RAMageddon causing people to look at older DDR4-based CPUs, I tested the best AM4 gaming CPU re-released by AMD, the 5800X3D anniversary edition against intel's similarly priced 14700KF with a DDR4 motherboard. GPU was RX 9070 in 4 RT/PT games, CapFrameX was used with multiple one-minute runs in CPU-limited areas and then aggregated.

All RT/PT settings were enabled at 900p w/ FSR Ultra Performance.

Results : Except Cyberpunk where the two processors were tied, 14700KF was faster in rest, and extremely so in Oblivion Remastered where it was almost 50% faster!!

Since the UE5 games improve with HT off, and 14700KF has performance to spare with the E-cores, the difference can increase even further.

Hardware Details :

5800X3D anniversary edition w/ 3800C16 2x16GB on MSI B550 Tomahawk WiFi 

By default SMT is enabled

PBO CO -20 on best cores, -30 on rest.

14700KF w/ 4200C17 2x16GB on MSI PRO Z790-P WIFI DDR4

By default HT is enabled

CPU Lite Load to 8( from default 16 ), IA CEP disabled, current limit upped to 360

With RAMageddon causing people to look at older DDR4-based CPUs, I tested the 5700X3D vs. 9850X3D, with RTX4090 in 4 RT/PT games that I had played. With CapFrameX, I took multiple one-minute runs in CPU-limited areas and then aggregated them.

All RT/PT settings were enabled at 1080p w/ DLSS Ultra Performance with the latest drivers. With CapFrameX, I took 3 one-minute runs in CPU-limited areas and then aggregated them.

Results : 9800X3D 9850X3D was 55-80% faster than 5700X3D. Cyberpunk was the best result, with 9800X3D 9850X3D only 55% faster, while Oblivion was the worst with 9800X3D 83% 81% faster. 1% lows were more than around twice as fast on 9800X3D 9850X3D in Oblivion and Jedi Survivor.

Background : In my [previous thread of 9800X3D vs. 5700X3D benchmarks](https://www.reddit.com/r/overclocking/comments/1qwe11j/5700x3d_vs_9800x3d_benchmarks_in_high_cpuusage/), I got replies raising the issue of not following citrus paribus( all oranges and no apples^lol ), since the 9800X3D benchmarks were done on 5090 and the 5700X3D on 4090. I did not think it should be a problem, since the gpu load limit was not being hit on either systems.

While testing the new 9850X3D I chucked in the 4090 to run these benchmarks. Pretty much similar results as the 9800X3D on 5090. Ultimately after all the RAM-tuning is done and OS reinstalled, it will be slightly faster but certainly not close to the difference between 5090 vs. 4090.

Also tested JEDEC 5600 vs. the below RAM settings with XMP + some timings tuned. Outer Worlds showed biggest difference, over 25%, while rest were in the 15-20% range.

Hardware Details :

5700X3D w/ 3600C16-16-16-36 2x16GB on MSI B550 Tomahawk WiFi with RTX 4090

By default SMT is enabled

PBO auto

9850X3D w/ 8000C38-48-48-60 2x24GB on Aorus X870E ( FCLK 2000 ) with RTX 4090

By default SMT is enabled

Edit: By popular demand, ran 4k DLSS Ultra Performance with preset L and was pleasantly surprised at how good the 4090 still is.

https://ibb.co/Qtg6RkJ

Just wanted to share some incredible results I managed to squeeze out using a minor tweak via mVolt on RTX 4080 Super.

Stock: ~25,800

MSI Afterburner max OC peak: ~29,000

mVolt Vulkan result: 31,943 (hitting Top 1 / Legendary rank)

mVolt DX12 result: Jumped from ~26,200 straight to 32,630 - absolute madness for a minor adjustment.

Noticeable 10–15% FPS boost in heavily GPU-bound titles.

Rock-solid stability during extended gaming and benchmark loops. I've stress tested the gpu for hours (and the whole pc) and had no issues whatsoever.

If anyone else is tinkering with an RTX 4080 Super, definitely look into what mVolt can achieve compared to standard curve tweaking.

Thank you b00nz the goat!

Result VLK: https://www.3dmark.com/sn/15953549
DX12 (top15): https://www.3dmark.com/sn/15932690 (still tweaking settings, this was with +150 core, +400 mem, +200 xbar)

AMD systems used DDR5-8000 CL36, while the 14900K used 8200 CL38 and Arrow Lake used 8800 or 9000 CL40.

Interestingly, the AMD systems performed better at 1080p and 1440p, while the Intel systems performed better at 4k.

Testing 9850X3D OC settings currently and decided to throw up this quick comparison using my older results with 9800X3D.

This 9850X3D barely moves the needle compared to 9800X3D for CPU performance at auto settings, but it can do 8400/2100 which was not possible with 9800X3D.

Hence the reused 9800X3D results, should be similar to what I would have got with 9850X3D(+2-3%). 

Results : SMT off and -CO tuned 9850X3D( the best result ) was about 25% faster than the 9800X3D+6000C30 XMP result. And overall 35% faster than the 9850X3D+5600 JEDEC result.

SMT off helps in UE5 games, netted 8% increase here, and it could be slightly higher if the dual-CCD 9950X3D/9950X3D2  were used along with process lasso etc.

JEDEC to XMP was 9% improvement. Likely in double-digits if the JEDEC testing was done with 9800X3D.

So CPU tuning can still net a lot of performance improvement in certain scenarios!

Hardware Details :

9800X3D configurations:

( 6000C30 XMP ) 6000MT/s 30-40-40-96 2x32GB FCLK 2000

( 6000C28 Tuned ) 6000MT/s 28-36-36-64 2x32GB FCLK 2000

( 8000C36 Tuned ) 8000MT/s 36-48-48-60 2x24GB FCLK 2000

By default SMT was enabled

PBO set to auto

9850X3D w/ 8400MT/s 38-49-49-61 2x24GB FCLK 2100 

SMT/PBO as per the results

All settings maxed out with 5090.

Previous threads for reference:

https://www.reddit.com/r/overclocking/comments/1ot2y6k/9800x3d_vs_14900ks_benchmarks_in_high_cpuusage/

https://www.reddit.com/r/overclocking/comments/1oydb2f/updated_9800x3d_vs_14900ks_benchmarks_in_high/

Recap: With many recent games with RT being CPU-heavy, like Outer Worlds 2, I decided to test out 14900KS vs 9800X3D in 5 4* RT/PT games that I had played. With CapFrameX, I took 3 one minute runs in CPU-limited areas and then aggregated them.

*Removed Stalker 2 results since it left GamePass. It also had a big performance patch around the same time and the older results will not be useful.

All RT/PT settings were enabled at 4k 1440p w/ DLSS Ultra Performance on a 5090 with the latest DLSS4.5 driver.

Results : 14900KS results were unchanged despite the resolution and DLSS preset change, except for Oblivion, and I simply reused the older results.

9800X3D saw 3-5% improvements with 8000 RAM, except in Oblivion where it is within margin of error. This is likely due to improved latency since the Infinity Fabric limits bandwidth to same as it was on 6000 RAM.

9800X3D is now definitely faster in averages, though 1% still favors 14900KS. Stalker was the 2nd worst result for 9800X3D before, so its removal also helps.

Details :

9800X3D w/ 8000C36-48-48-60 2x24GB on Apex X870E ( FCLK 2000 )

By default SMT is enabled

PBO set to auto

14900KS w/ 8400MT/s C38-49-49-69 2x24GB on Asrock Z790I Lightning

HT off, only 8E cores enabled

59/42/50 for P-cores, E-cores and Ring respectively

AC/DC loadlines set to 0.40/0.74

I absolutely hit the silicon lottery with my RTX 5070 Ti ZOTAC AMP EXTREME INFINITY!

Spent some time dialing in the overclock/undervolt, and the results are honestly mind-blowing. Stable as a rock and running cooler than expected.
The Stats:
• Core Clock: 3212 MHz
• Memory Clock: +2000 MHz
• Voltage: 1000 mV
• Power Limit: 115%
• Max Temps: 65°C (under full load)
The Payoff:
• +13% overall performance increase compared to stock.
• Officially ranked in the Top 3% of all RTX 5070
Ti results worldwide on Steel Nomad/3DMark!
Jensen Huang personally blessed this die, I swear.
Anyone else tweaking their 50-series cards yet?
What numbers are you guys seeing?

In my previous thread comparing 9850X3D vs 5700X3D using RTX 4090, some people mentioned nvidia cards having high CPU overhead.

https://www.reddit.com/r/overclocking/comments/1u5ackg/9850x3d_vs_5700x3d_benchmarks_in_high_cpuusage/

So I tested the same scenarios with RX 9070 on 9850X3D and found that it was significantly faster in Oblivion Remastered by around 10%, but similar in other games.

Retested using the default DDR5 speed of 5600 because it should increase the CPU bottleneck. It did, with the Oblivion gap increasing to 15% and Outer Worlds 2 also started showing around 8% difference.

But 4090 was averaging very slightly higher in the other two games, when it was very slightly behind before. Dunno how much to read into it, and I will test the 9070 soon on the 5700X3D system, where I expect to see bigger differences.

All RT/PT settings were enabled at 1080p w/ DLSS FSR Ultra Performance with the latest drivers. Had to drop to 720p for Cyberpunk and Star Wars Jedi Survivor since the card was pulling max board power at 1080p. Also had some hitching issues with the latter and had to do multiple runs.

Hardware Details :

9850X3D w/ 8000C38-48-48 2x24GB on Aorus X870E ( FCLK 2000 ) with RTX 4090/RX 9070

By default SMT is enabled

"Higher" quality pictures: https://imgur.com/a/oLkvDjL
Previous post about the 4400CL24 setup.

Here are the requested in-game benchmark results.
Battlefield 6 does not have a built-in benchmark, Portal was used to benchmark BF6.

I used 6000CL30 'Tweaked' in this comparison as that imo reflects what most users should be able to achieve with Hynix A-die.

I understand that a 6400 or 8000 tuned setup will do a little better, but I've spent enough time on this for now and I don't have a kit that does 8000.

I'm +3000 memory +475 core (ive ran it lower and the scores are still very close) what am i doing wrong here? I mean this is a pretty significant score difference.

MSI GAMING TRIO OC 5070TI - 330W BIOS

Previous thread for reference:
https://www.reddit.com/r/overclocking/comments/1v8wu48/9850x3d9800x3d_oc_comparison_in_a_cpulimited/

Testing 9850X3D OC settings currently and decided to throw up this quick comparison using my older results with 9800X3D.

This 9850X3D barely moves the needle compared to 9800X3D for CPU performance at auto settings, but it can do 8400/2100 which was not possible with 9800X3D.

Hence the reused 9800X3D results, should be similar to what I would have got with 9850X3D(+2-3%). 

Results : SMT off and -CO tuned 9850X3D( the best result ) was about 25% faster than the 9800X3D+6000C30 XMP result. And overall 39% faster than the 9850X3D+5600 JEDEC result.

SMT off helps in UE5 games, netted 6% increase here, and it could be slightly higher if the dual-CCD 9950X3D/9950X3D2  were used along with process lasso etc.

JEDEC to XMP was 11% improvement.

So CPU tuning can still net a lot of performance improvement in certain scenarios!

Hardware Details :

9800X3D configurations:

( 6000C30 XMP ) 6000MT/s 30-40-40-96 2x32GB FCLK 2000

( 6000C28 Tuned ) 6000MT/s 28-36-36-64 2x32GB FCLK 2000

( 8000C36 Tuned ) 8000MT/s 36-48-48-60 2x24GB FCLK 2000

By default SMT was enabled

PBO set to auto

9850X3D w/ 8400MT/s 38-49-49-61 2x24GB FCLK 2100 

SMT/PBO as per the results

All settings maxed out with 5090.

Added AIDA results as some people had asked for them in previous thread.

Update: since people dont read - asrock = no latency killer (7800x3d has few ns lower latency than 9800x3d so getting 60.0 is easier)

Holly Molly!
- let me start from saying that my:

—- but than I was able to locate just the right things to tighten up it seems!! 60.0!! (Spread is 60.0-60.5 9/10 times)

I honestly didn’t think I would be able to get stable under 61 consistently. (Best I could do before was 60.8 using bclk 101.5 to get sync at 6090/3045/2030, but this also resulted in freezing fee times per day.)

—— I know I know I have to do cold boots, and OCCT temp stress test and tm5 before concluding or attempting possible further improvements (marked in red on photo1 - following x4, 32 and 16 step rules of course) it passed all tests without errors detected!! Yey

Any other suggestions for improvement? (tCWL could be 24 but I didn’t find it in bios to set) I think sub 60 reliably is possible - may be bclk manual 100.5 would give it enough push to be 59.5-60.0 spread

For those nut-heads who are in disbelief so much that they are calling me a lier. Here is a video https://youtu.be/EjR3hYebcC8?is=_I7D8gprpbStK66b a ten runs test avg is 60.35ns, in case you wonder

i9 9900k

Asrock Z370 Extreme 4

4x16GB DDR4 3600MT CL18

See screenshot for results. RND4K results on both my Samsung 990 Pro and Corsair MP700 SE have improved significantly.

More info: Windows 11 25H2 Includes a Faster NVMe Driver Needing Manual Installation | TechPowerUp

How to enable:

-Start CMD.exe as Admin

reg add HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Policies\Microsoft\FeatureManagement\Overrides /v 735209102 /t REG_DWORD /d 1 /f

reg add HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Policies\Microsoft\FeatureManagement\Overrides /v 1853569164 /t REG_DWORD /d 1 /f

reg add HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Policies\Microsoft\FeatureManagement\Overrides /v 156965516 /t REG_DWORD /d 1 /f

This new tool lets you adjust XBar clock and raise max core voltage on Windows: https://github.com/b00nz/mvolt

I'm limited by the 350W max power limit on my 5070 ti prime card (with strix vbios flashed, which makes no difference), raising voltage to 1.1V (1.07V in actual benchmark) puts it right at the power limit, no thermal limit since it's waterblocked.

9299 in Speedway: https://www.3dmark.com/sw/3788594 (#2 5070 ti as of writing)

8639 in Steel Nomad DX12: https://www.3dmark.com/sn/15492795 (#3 5070 ti as of writing)

24027 in Port Royal: https://www.3dmark.com/pr/3995017 (#5 5070 ti as of writing)

My sample was also previously quite good, I had the #10 Port Royal score with only MSI Afterburner OC.

My mVolt+ profile:

Just finished tuning my system and wanted to get some feedback on the results.
Hardware:
RTX 5070 Ti (undervolted)
Ryzen 7 9800X3D
ASUS ROG Strix B850-A Gaming WiFi7
Kingston Fury Beast DDR5-6000 CL30
BIOS settings:
PBO enabled
Curve Optimizer: All Cores Negative -30
PBO limits set to motherboard
PBO Scalar 3x
Max CPU boost clock override: +200mhz
3DMark Time Spy results:
Overall Score: 25,935
Graphics Score: 29,269
CPU Score: 15,762
The score is above the average result shown by 3DMark for similar systems (24,912), while running the GPU undervolted and the CPU with a -30 all-core Curve Optimizer.
Temperatures, stability, and power consumption all look good so far.
Does this seem like a solid result for a 5070 Ti + 9800X3D setup, or is there still some performance left on the table? I’d be interested to see how these numbers compare to other people’s systems with similar hardware

Thought I'd download it and give it a go. I didn't get a chance to optimize my PC first, but here are my first run scores. These are just my stable daily settings.

I'm curious how I'm doing compared to others with the same CPU. I don't care about the GPU score since mine is undervolted, so I expect that score to be obliterated.

I brought a ventus on sale 5 months ago for £1850 from scan.

After seeing the benchmark results on here and social media I had a little bit of buyers remorse.

I also saw lots of people buying them and complaining stating they are “slow” cards or “bottom of the pile”. So managed to prove you all wrong and it’s actually your lack of knowledge and understanding to why it was slow……

However, I decided to harness my ADHD, explore and educate myself on how to make a high end gaming PC go fast 💨 by understanding how to fine tune the card.

So here you go, Ventus goes vroom vroom 😎

Forgot about speedway, but that’s also 16k!

Thanks Distinct paint for sharing the love ❤️

Previous thread for reference:

https://www.reddit.com/r/overclocking/comments/1ot2y6k/9800x3d_vs_14900ks_benchmarks_in_high_cpuusage/

All RT/PT settings were enabled at 4k w/ DLSS Ultra Performance on a 5090.

Results : Similar to previous, 14900KS being faster overall, with better 1% lows even if the averages matched. Only Outer Worlds 2 that started this, was better on 9800X3D.

Oblivion and Stalker2 were quite better on intel. Cyberpunk is close despite the 9800X3D winning the benchmark by a big margin and the 1% is again better on KS.

Details :

9800X3D w/ 6000C28-36-36-64 2x32GB on Aorus X870E Pro

By default SMT is enabled

PBO set to auto

14900KS w/ 8400MT/s C38-49-49-69 2x24GB on Asrock Z790I Lightning

HT off, only 8E cores enabled

59/42/50 for P-cores, E-cores and Ring respectively

AC/DC loadlines set to 0.40/0.74

Disabled overlays, power monitoring, HwInfo64 for these tests. I have included the 0.1%tile FPS this time, but it is not as reliable as the avg. and 1%tile scores.