Alberta Separatists Offered U.S. Access to Water and Oil Royalties for Independence Help, Globe Reports

[u/One-Board8634]

https://www.culturealberta.com/articles/alberta-separatists-offered-us-access-to-water-and-oil-royalties-for-independence-help-globe-reports

[u/ottereckhart]

HELP

WE NEED HELP TO BE INDEPENDENT

lmfao. I am so sick of this timeline.

[u/alwayzdizzy → u/ottereckhart]

I don't think it was ever about an Independent Alberta as much as it was joining the US under the guise of independence.

[u/motleysalty → u/alwayzdizzy]

They claim that they are oppressed and taken advantage of by Ottawa, but see no issue in the vocal minority dragging every Albertan with them if they were to somehow separate. And their big-brained response would be nothing more than some form of "if they don't like it, they should leave Alberta." Meanwhile, they could just leave Canada. Oh wait, they can't just do that because the US doesn't really want THEM, just the resources under their feet. They'd just be the next Venezuela.

Edit: a word

[u/Stray_Neutrino → u/motleysalty]

Makes sense. A vocal minority is dragging the US down so why not them?

[u/Magjee → u/motleysalty]

Alberta is being taken advantage of by Canada

And they are being oppressed again by other Albertans not agreeing with them

And they are being oppressed by their mom not making enough lasagna

And they are beingg oppressed by the their neighbour taking the garbage out the night before, instead of panicing the same morning

And so on and so forth

 

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[u/roastbeeftacohat → u/alwayzdizzy]

it's not a coherent ideology. all they can really agree on is open carry, open container, and no more brown people; things like independence vs US territory is a detail for eggheads.

polling puts leave supporters at 20%, most of which don't actually want to leave; but the movement puts it closer to 75. that's the level of understanding of the larger world they're working with.

[u/Crowasaur → u/alwayzdizzy]

16yo sister sues for émancipation.

Her boyfriend is a pimp.

Guess who paid for the lawyer and became in their debt?

[u/Atma-Darkwolf → u/alwayzdizzy]

you mean a few 'selling' what they can and retiring somewhere nice, while the rest of us are left to fend for selves as a hungry fat southern neighbor 'claims' us but does not allow us voting rights.

[u/JPMoney81]

Alberta traitors commit treason.

There. Fixed it for you.

[u/friendlyneighbourho → u/JPMoney81]

Sedition

[u/haysoos2 → u/friendlyneighbourho]

With the economic hostilities, this has also become textbook High Treason.

[u/HMTMKMKM95 → u/haysoos2]

By Carney's own words, def treason.

[u/magsbad13 → u/JPMoney81]

And now Quebec traitors have joined them, but I'm worried that there's a much higher percentage in Quebec than Alberta.

[u/aglobalvillageidiot]

I'd assume it was being organized by Americans the entire time. It's a pretty typical US playbook, it can even work when everyone knows it's happening, especially with algorithmic media. People just think it's the kind of thing America does elsewhere or that we're too smart for here.

[u/Biosterous → u/aglobalvillageidiot]

Yes and that's why there has to be charges.

Any organiser involved in this should be facing treason charges. American owned media needs to be ignored when they cry crocodile tears about this being politically motivated.

The RCMP and CSIS need to track the funding, and companies/owners involved need to face sanctions.

This is a very clear threat to our democracy. If we allow this to stand, we will end up with our own September 11th, 1973.

[u/macrotron → u/aglobalvillageidiot]

Americans have been doing this shit for over a century at this point

[u/Syrairc → u/macrotron]

Every global power has, yep.

[u/Different_Wolf_764 → u/Syrairc]

Some more than others.

[u/Hussar223 → u/aglobalvillageidiot]

remember a few months back when some leading alberta separatists met with some US government officials. i would bet anything there were a few CIA agents there too.

this is what america does best, destabilize other countries. they have been doing it for decades.

[u/Shot_Cupcakes → u/aglobalvillageidiot]

It was only a question of time before the USA decided Albertan oil is in need of some freedom. 

[u/watchitbend]

If we continue to hurr durr this shit while they continue to commit sedition in broad daylight, this will only get worse, regardless of the referendumb. This goes all the way to the top of Albertan politics, and has been for a long time now. Nothing is being done about it. Nothing. 

[u/NonNewtonianResponse → u/watchitbend]

Call your MPs and complain

[u/Canada1971 → u/NonNewtonianResponse]

Alberta Conservative MPs are in in the game.

[u/NonNewtonianResponse → u/Canada1971]

Maybe, but I meant everybody else too, since it's a threat to the entire country

[u/Bigchunky_Boy → u/Canada1971]

Yes they have been caught in the Atlas network of underground MAGA sphere of extortion and influence full of bad foreign actors.

[u/watchitbend → u/NonNewtonianResponse]

I have, repeatedly. 

[u/untitledmillennial → u/watchitbend]

Just because it isn't public doesn't mean they don't know. You think CSIS and the feds are just going to lay it all out in a CBC article?

[u/chmilz → u/untitledmillennial]

RCMP is responsible for policing national crimes and has proven over and over it is either unwilling or incapable of handling any serious crime. CSIS is an intelligence agency, they share information with RCMP, who doesn't do anything with it.

[u/untitledmillennial → u/chmilz]

I'm talking about the USA's involvement. They can't wave that around in public.

[u/watchitbend → u/untitledmillennial]

No of course not. I just don't have any faith that anything of real consequence is going to happen on the required timeline for crimes that can deliver this level of impact on the country. A long-winded and slow moving investigation that in a few years time decides in finally time to act on the mountains of evidence will be too late. 

[u/Sensitive-Local-3485]

lol called it.

American sympathizers will offer up the wealth of Alberta because theyre in it to be their own lil territorial politburo.

[u/AshundertheOlivetree]

Of course the first things a separatist does is sell off their most important assets for liquidity they would have never gained if not for stealing

[u/Surturiel]

Time to arrest those bozos. 

[u/castlite]

Nationalize energy. Fuck the past, Carney can do it.

Edit: Actually if we don’t do it with Carney as PM, it’ll never happen.

[u/PNDMike → u/castlite]

Best time to nationalize would have been 50+ years ago.

Second best time to nationalize is right now.

[u/cgsc_systems → u/PNDMike]

You want to get invaded by the US that's pretty well how you do it.

[u/surviving606]

It’s the Putin Donbas playbook and they’ll eventually attempt invasion to “liberate” Alberta. This whole thing has been a U.S. oligarch backed sham from day 1 

[u/Bigchunky_Boy → u/surviving606]

This 100%

[u/jjaime2024 → u/surviving606]

Trump does not have the support do it even with in Maga.

[u/Mountain-Bar5049 → u/jjaime2024]

I would not want to be complacent about that considering how rapidly the US has descending into whatever it is they are now.

[u/jjaime2024 → u/Mountain-Bar5049]

The Iran war has turned people away from any more wars.

[u/umpteenthrhyme → u/jjaime2024]

Wars before it turned people off of more wars. Trump even fuckin’ campaigned on it.

[u/FunnyMalzairIdea]

Too bad we don't have a national police force and an intelligence agency who could have begun prosecution of these traitors. I guess that protecting pipelines from indigenous protestors takes up all their time.

[u/chmilz → u/FunnyMalzairIdea]

During the transition, Trudeau told Carney one of his first moves should be to perform a complete overhaul of RCMP to give it the resources and priority to handle the very crimes being committed, knowing Canada is under major attacks from a number of foreign actors.

[u/Stray_Neutrino → u/FunnyMalzairIdea]

Those who work forces…

[u/PNDMike]

I think it's high time we nationalized that oil. Alberta clearly can't be trusted with it any longer.

[u/Tulos → u/PNDMike]

I mean hell, maybe we could finally get a provincial government that works for us instead of a fucking oil lobbyist premier in that scenario.

[u/OneBillPhil → u/Tulos]

Her name was Rachel Notley, lasted four years, lost elections to fucking Jason Kenney and Danielle Smith. 

[u/br0k3nh410 → u/OneBillPhil]

And in those 4 years she basically burned Alberta to the ground. Left the province in shambles! Shambles I tell you!! /s

[u/Shot_Cupcakes → u/PNDMike]

I support this. 

[u/canadave_nyc]

How these people are not under arrest for treason is beyond my comprehension. If nothing else, it would place them in a cell while their trial proceeds, and thus are not as easily able to foment unrest.

[u/Mantaur4HOF]

What's the punishment for treason in Canada? Life sentence, I believe.

[u/Rationalinsanity1990 → u/Mantaur4HOF]

High treason is a mandatory life sentence, no chance of parole for 25 years.

[u/g1syc1ny]

Treason. Sell outs.

[u/Luddites_Unite]

How is that not sedition?

[u/TelenorTheGNP]

I want the names of the American agents who entertained this stuff.

[u/ceciliabee]

Seditious traitors.

[u/Jeramy_Jones]

When do we start calling this treason?

I know Canadians are nice but can we maybe not let traitors tear the country apart?

[u/JenniferLeBlanc]

Effing traitors

[u/puppymama75]

The Alberta Geological Survey has maps that show how to redirect all of Alberta’s water south.
I know this because I am friends with a guy who converted those maps into the metric system back when that nationwide conversion happened.
So these plans have been around for a while.
Where did they originate???

PS. I just checked; conversion from miles to km happened around 1977. This guy is in his 70s so this tracks. He was assigned this task as an intern fresh out of college.

[u/Striking_Economy5049]

So people who don’t own anything giving things they don’t own away for “royalties.”

Forget treason charges, it’s time to do much much worse to these people.

[u/Odd-Kaleidoscope8863]

They should get the American punishment for treason since they want to be American so bad.

[u/NoCommonDog]

What goes around comes around. I think that when they lose, Canadian government should sieze their property since they felt so liberal in offering it to a foreign government.

[u/Bizzlebanger]

They should all be charged with treason....

[u/oxxcccxxo]

Are any of these people going to be charged with treason?

[u/void_sushi]

Is the leader of this country going to do anything about this? Of course not.

[u/Jamlad]

Treasonous.

[u/Doctor_Amazo]

So this is straight up treason.

[u/FluxLeakage]

*USA Makes Move to Gain Control Over Canadian Resources by Funding Separatist Movement

FTFY

[u/-lovehate]

if this isn’t the definition of treason, I don’t know what is

[u/Assignment_General]

“Independence help”

We really do exist in the dumbest timeline 

[u/Aldamur]

They are out of their mind.

[u/OneBillPhil]

Why don’t these motherfuckers just move to the US?

[u/DemoEvolved]

Ofc they did.

[u/MoogleVivi]

Fuck these traitors. They better be rotting in the future

[u/Next_Passage8055]

Waiting for arrests to start happening... waiting.... waiting

[u/Mental_Cartoonist_68]

When does someone, anyone. Charge those traitors?

[u/Infinite_Show_5715]

What if Canada did the craziest thing - and stood up to protect its own sovereignty by enforcing laws that are already on the books for this exact type of crime....?

Could you imagine? WOULD BE WILD

[u/ImmovableMind]

This is American foreign interference. Everyone involved should be tried for sedition and treason!

[u/SimplePlus7376]

I do so want to see her, and her cohorts, on trial.

[u/Sea_Cucumber_5989]

Historically, what happens to traitors?

[u/DonkeyFieldMouse]

So they don't want Ottawa 'telling them what to do' but are happy to bend over for a foreign state?

[u/nelson6364]

I love how these Albertains think that the Americans would give them a choice regarding their water and oil after they separate.