Petrol price hits highest level since start of Iran war

[u/WaterAdventurous6718]

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/business/1745943/petrol-price-hits-highest-level-since-start-of-iran-war

[u/H1REV]

Better invest in an LNG terminal

[u/Random-Mutant → u/H1REV]

‘Leccy National Grid.

Electrify Aotearoa

[u/Expensive_Ring_4546 → u/H1REV]

Imagine if we used that billion dollars to buy solar panels and inverters in bulk instead..

Let the bloody commercial users pay for the import terminal if they want it so badly

[u/MinimumAmbassador545 → u/H1REV]

How expensive do you think our local made gas will get if we don’t?

[u/king_john651 → u/MinimumAmbassador545]

It already is pretty much the ceiling. Gas users in industry are either pulling out of the NZ market entirely or electrifying their gas use. Less users less demand. The LNG terminal is a pipe dream that I sure as shit don't want to pay for, as a non gas user

[u/H1REV → u/MinimumAmbassador545]

Not much at all, Methanx and most other large users are pulling out of the market.

[u/Fickle-City1122]

An orange pedophile wants to play battleship (badly) so I gotta pay $200 at the petrol pump. Love this timeline

[u/YetAnotherBrainFart → u/Fickle-City1122]

Get an EV. Switched from diesel ranger - fuel cost has dropped from $5000 (at today's diesel price) to $700 for electric charging.

[u/Fickle-City1122 → u/YetAnotherBrainFart]

It's honestly looking more and more tempting by the day, but I don't have enough money yet for an EV

[u/Expensive_Ring_4546 → u/Fickle-City1122]

A cheap hybrid toyota is always a good budget friendly option ans there's a decent selection available

[u/zergy55 → u/Fickle-City1122]

I'm lucky that the in-laws offered to buy an 09 Prius for us to rent-to-buy off them. The difference in how much gas costs compared to what I had to pay for my Caldina is crazy.

[u/RuckusOGx → u/Fickle-City1122]

One day the degree to which he is being blackmailed by Israel will be known. It will be too late, but etched into the pages of history nonetheless. This is the legacy he is leaving, not whatever his narcissistic brain is telling him.

[u/basscycles → u/RuckusOGx]

Epstein says hello from the grave.

[u/Expensive_Ring_4546 → u/Fickle-City1122]

Its very unfortunate.

But honestly if you can make the switch to a hybrid or an ev or even some other kind of pt or emobility device now it the time to do so

[u/InvestmentFuzzy4365]

Good thing our govt has been encouraging the purchase of EV’s and public transport…

We’re fucked

[u/theheliumkid → u/InvestmentFuzzy4365]

And all the investment in solar too....

[u/Expensive_Ring_4546 → u/theheliumkid]

Im excited to see that supposedly both major parties are supporting pro solar policies at this election

Its only 20 years behind Australia.. but better late than never i guess

[u/Expensive_Ring_4546 → u/InvestmentFuzzy4365]

That clean car rebate looks like genius in hindsight

[u/hueythecat → u/Expensive_Ring_4546]

Was good enough for Luxons Tesla. Maybe if we reduced the bright line test from two years to one year more of the exited the contributing to society class could trickle down the wealth faster.

[u/MinimumAmbassador545 → u/InvestmentFuzzy4365]

This isn’t encouragement enough?

[u/123felix → u/InvestmentFuzzy4365]

You mean the 5.5b public transport project the government just opened? Yeah, that's a good thing.

[u/Subject_Strike8546 → u/123felix]

There's been 2 changes of government since the CRL was approved and funded.

The current government has only managed to fund roads and Lockheed Martin's Christmas party.

[u/Jeffery95 → u/123felix]

Yeah it is. But it was started before they got into power. So this government cant claim credit. They would not have started it if it hadn’t already been going. They certainly haven’t made progress on any other equivalent projects.

[u/creative_avocado20]

Will be $5 a litre soon.

[u/Expensive_Ring_4546 → u/creative_avocado20]

Its entirely possible

Though the volume of oil making it through the straight of hormuz is almost back to pre war volumes currently so if that continues that will take some pressure off the price of oil

[u/Party_Government8579 → u/Expensive_Ring_4546]

Problem is a bunch of supply has been taken offline in Russia at the same time as Saudi refinement has been targeted. Uncharted territory

[u/toiletbowlwisdom]

My farts smell so good in the EV this week

[u/0oodruidoo0 → u/toiletbowlwisdom]

The smell of smug

[u/BlacksmithNZ → u/toiletbowlwisdom]

These threads keep popping up, and we EV owners have to shut up as only recently have I noticed people starting to think of them as an option

[u/toiletbowlwisdom → u/BlacksmithNZ]

I talk to coworkers about buying an EV for their next car, I tried to explain the figures but they are not ready to except it

[u/Puzzleheaded_Net4131 → u/toiletbowlwisdom]

Powerbill

[u/toiletbowlwisdom → u/Puzzleheaded_Net4131]

Three free hours every weeknight does the trick barely notice it

[u/quog38 → u/Puzzleheaded_Net4131]

That depends on the time of day and how much charge you need. However, generally speaking, if you drive an average of 25-30km a day, the cost of charging an EV is about the same as paying 30c per litre for petrol. You can charge your EV overnight for about $3.00 per 100km, depending on the model and your electricity plan. A fast charge can cost up to $10 for 100km and takes about 20 minutes.

Straight from genesis power, However Fast charging is anywhere from 10-20$ depending on where you are these days sadly.

[u/Nolsoth → u/quog38]

Which is still significantly cheaper than petrol.

[u/quog38 → u/Nolsoth]

Oh for sure. Just pointing out that the genesis site was a bit outdated compared to recent costs.

[u/toiletbowlwisdom → u/quog38]

Its about 120km free each night

[u/quog38 → u/toiletbowlwisdom]

Are you on an EV power plan?

[u/toiletbowlwisdom → u/quog38]

Contact, free 3 hours power weeknights 9-12, it's a 32a outlet

[u/FlugMe → u/quog38]

Fast chargers are public chargers. If you can charge at home why would you bother with a public charger?

[u/quog38 → u/FlugMe]

Depends on the person.

I know people who go shopping and charge their car while they shop. My friend goes to Costco every couple of months so going from Hamilton to Auckland they fast charge to get home at times.

[u/FlugMe → u/quog38]

What an extremely common scenario...

[u/quog38 → u/FlugMe]

I'm not sure why you're being sarcastic. People fast charge because they do. I gave you two situations from people I personally know. I cant speak for everyone else.

Next time I'm in my local parking building I'll ask the people charging there for you.

[u/FlugMe → u/quog38]

Lol I'm not saying that people don't fast charge, it's just not that common if you can charge at home, jeez louise

[u/quog38 → u/FlugMe]

it's just not that common if you can charge at home

How does this have anything to do with me correcting an out of date price?

The price doesn't go back down because you think its not common.

[u/meetthereaper84 → u/FlugMe]

People travelling to another town is rare?? Wow you must live a sad little life in mummy's basement.

[u/FlugMe → u/meetthereaper84]

Holy moly, guns blazing over here. Once every couple of months is by definition not very common right? 

Statistics show that the vast majority of people barely travel most of the time.

[u/MinimumAmbassador545 → u/Puzzleheaded_Net4131]

Free charging with solar you mean?

[u/toiletbowlwisdom → u/MinimumAmbassador545]

Cos the rental I'm in has fixed gas line I'm with contact for power and they have an addon that is 9pm-12 free power weeknights

[u/computer_d]

I'll find out if my car is written off tomorrow. I guess it'd be dumb not to go electric, but doubt there's anything in my price range. I hate the idea of buying a new car. I also don't like how electric cars have screens and all this unnecessary fluff. Stuff which probably makes it so expensive...

[u/dottybotty → u/computer_d]

The petrol and maintenance savings alone will offset buying an old dunger at a lower cost. Literally brought my first EV because it was cheaper to pay a loan + insurance on it than it was to keep filling my tank each week in a petrol car. Petrol is even more expensive now.

[u/FlugMe → u/computer_d]

New petrol cars get all the same screens, has nothing to do with it.

[u/computer_d → u/FlugMe]

Won't be buying new. The comparison is with older, 201x petrol cars. That's what I'd otherwise buy, second hand.

[u/FlugMe → u/computer_d]

What's you budget?

[u/BlacksmithNZ → u/computer_d]

r/nzev might have ideas

The Leaf for example doesn't have touch screens, even if many getting on a bit

The EVDB website is useful as well

[u/Puzzleheaded_Net4131 → u/BlacksmithNZ]

Leafs not good

[u/Lassdoggo → u/computer_d]

Been driving for 30 plus years and I think screens are very important and definitely necessary. They keep the wind and rain out and make seeing what's in front of you easier.

[u/AI_moderated_failure → u/Lassdoggo]

Source?

[u/Imaginary-Task9973 → u/Lassdoggo]

this person drives

[u/ChiefMuppetWrangler → u/computer_d]

Screens are cheaper than the wiring harness required for physical switches - that’s why they’re in every new car.

[u/Expensive_Ring_4546 → u/computer_d]

Used toyota hybrids are still an excellent and budget friendly option just fyi and are a massive improvement over fuel economy of non hybrid vehicles

[u/bitshifternz → u/computer_d]

The battery makes it expensive

[u/jacobthellamer → u/computer_d]

New ones start from 30k

[u/mechatui]

What a stupid war to send every country into a economic spiral again

[u/Expensive_Ring_4546 → u/mechatui]

Depressing to see brazil seems set to vote for yet another version of trump yet again

[u/Ok-Currency1593]

Nice

more demand for EVs

[u/CptMcLaggins]

sounds like a great time to spend a few more billion on roads

[u/Ok-Currency1593 → u/CptMcLaggins]

EVs still need roads

[u/basscycles → u/Ok-Currency1593]

Spending money on public transport, trains and bicycle lanes help take cars and trucks off the roads. Though you are right we still need to maintain the roads.

[u/Kiwi_Dubstyle]

Waiting for that headline, that headline that tells us we are once and forever released from that orange nightmare. Like bad shit won't stop happening after he's gone but I'll still drink my first alcoholic toast in years.

[u/wineandsnark]

For fucks sake hurry up God or fate and smite him.

[u/SoulsofMist-_-]

Yup pretty expensive.

Use to cost $85 to fill from empty for my car, paid $110 from just under a quarter of a tank the other day

Crazy, glad work pays for my petrol.

[u/Loveth3soul-767]

Coca Cola fuel instead I guess.

[u/chatam94]

You know what, fuck this planet

[u/RuckusOGx → u/chatam94]

Nah, just America and Israel. The rest of the planet is fine for the most part.

[u/FlugMe → u/RuckusOGx]

I heard Russia and Ukraine is a dreamy paradise.

[u/RuckusOGx → u/FlugMe]

Haha touche. Add them to the list. May as well toss on a bunch of other African and Middle Eastern countries while we are at it.

You know what, fuck this planet....

[u/catchmepiggy111]

Good stuff...bring on $4 a liter 👊