r/news • u/Fcking_Chuck • 6h ago
U.S. Marine arrested on suspicion of murder after 'brutal and heinous' death in Japan, officials say
https://abc7.com/story/us-marine-arrested-suspicion-murder-brutal-heinous-death-japan-officials-say/19907766/262
u/Myanmar_on_my_Mind 4h ago
I can’t imagine what it would be like living in a town full of ignorant 18-20 year old marines constantly disrespecting you.
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u/Calm_Apartment1968 2h ago
Most of them are quite respectful. One rotten apple, among very few spoiled vegetables over 70 years does not a trend make.
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u/a-night-on-the-town 2h ago
Idk I literally left Okinawa today and saw in multiple locations US military being rude AF to random people. One example was a group of 4 of them mocking a worker’s accent at Coco Ichibanya (and yes I know they were military since they were sitting right next to me talking about it).
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u/Mobile_Advance7751 1h ago
Tell that to all the little girls in Okinawa raped every year by the US marines. I say the Japanese should give all the marines a proper send off American style. No boats needed.
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u/Myanmar_on_my_Mind 2h ago edited 1h ago
Tell that to the families of the murdered women and men. I'm sure they'll understand
EDIT: This is also the same BS excuse used to tolerate police violence. One rotten apple ruins the WHOLE barrel
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u/No_Extension4005 2h ago
One rotten apple spoils the barrel. Especially when it keeps happening. And it does keep happening. Rapes, robberies, murders, hit and runs, you name it.
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u/ill4two 1h ago
didn't the marines get banned from drinking out in town for getting wasted and raping the locals? wasn't the Greeneville forced to use other boats' banners while porting in Japan for a while because they EMBT blowed into a Japanese training vessel and killed 9, including 4 high schoolers? wasn't the Houston caught releasing radioactive material into the Japanese harbor?
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u/NeighbourNoNeighbor 1h ago
I wish it was just one rotten apple, but this base has had numerous serious issues now, has it not?
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u/CameraFarmer 3h ago
"When America sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're sending people that have lots of problems. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists, and some, I assume, are good people."
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u/artytank 5h ago
We need to make a complete and total example of these thugs disgracing the unform and tarnishing our nation to the people of Japan. Make an example of them and give the thug to Japan so they can administer justice.
God damn I hate reading these headlines.
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u/ATTACKANDDETHRONEHOG 2h ago
They do this shit to local women all across the US too. If you made an example of every service member who brutalized a woman we wouldn’t have a military.
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u/manachar 1h ago
Okay. Sounds like a good start. Do cops next, as they have horrific levels of domestic abuse.
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u/frostygrin 2h ago
How about making sure it never happens again? Someone unhinged enough to murder someone else, probably won't pay too much attention to "examples" that happened years ago when he wasn't at the base.
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u/dearth_of_passion 3h ago
We need to make a complete and total example of these thugs disgracing the unform and tarnishing our nation to the people of Japan.
Putting on the uniform in the first place is a disgrace.
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u/RedditorsGetChills 58m ago
After the thug count, I had to check the race of the marine. Just a regular whistle for humans, not dogs.
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u/QuackingWahoo 6h ago
Unfortunately this is expected when the culture of our military has shifted from professionalism to savagery. Shame on this Marine, and the countless others that turned a blind eye to allow this to happen.
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u/Fcking_Chuck 6h ago
This is not the first time members of our military have participated in heinous acts against women overseas. It's been happening for as long as we've been sending our men overseas.
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u/Acceptable_Bat379 5h ago
The base in Okinawa has been a problem for quite a while. There were sex abuse scandals when I served in the 2000s as well, and thats just what we heard about.
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u/PatchyWhiskers 5h ago
It always seems to be US bases in Japan that do this stuff. You don’t hear about it in their European bases.
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u/International_Goat31 5h ago
It was only a couple years ago that a US soldier stabbed a German to death and the US investigated themselves and as usual found no wrongdoing.
There are also incidents like Italy in 1998 where a bunch of US soldiers playing with a plane killed 20 civilians, destroyed evidence, and then got off without consequences.
What about the Haditha Massacre where two dozen civilians (including women and young children) were shot dead in their own homes by a bunch of US military personnel and most of them faced no consequences and the one who did was charged with "negligent dereliction of duty" (the same as if he'd fallen asleep on the job) and got (wait for it) a demotion! Not even jailtime!
US bases have a history of leading to the deaths of locals.
If we're just talking about US military personnel killing random civilians in general, away from bases, then what about in 2019 where the US tried to sneak their way in to North Korea, got caught, and murdered all of the local civilian fishermen who saw them and to this day have faced no consequences?
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u/A_Nonny_Muse 4h ago
Let's put this all into perspective.
US soldiers were torturing civilians - including the sexual torture of women and children - at Abu Ghraib, Iraq. Only 2 low rank soldiers were ever punished despite the full knowledge of high ranking officers all the way to the White House.Video was released of US special forces throwing puppies to their death into a rocky ravine. The entire unit was prosecuted.
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u/Croc_Chop 4h ago
Because it got caught on video, the worst thing you can do for any military branch is to catch it doing the usual on camera.
Surprised they aren't more against the ever increasing surveillance everywhere.
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u/A_Nonny_Muse 3h ago
There were over a thousand pictures released of Abu Ghraib torture. And roughly another thousand that were not released to the public.
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u/DefinitelyNotAliens 1h ago
We had so much documentation of abuse in Abu Ghraib. The issue was the victims were seen as bad people so it was less criminal.
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u/Fcking_Chuck 5h ago
Not hearing about similar activities from other armed forces doesn't mean that it doesn't happen. It was a long time before we started hearing about our personnel in the news. Before the 1960's, nobody who wasn't involved had any idea what our military had been doing to women overseas. It was only after the U.S. became notorious for heinous activities that this news made its way to home and to the public via a television broadcast.
We don't know what has been happening with other armed forces in Japan. We don't know how much gets covered up or goes unreported. What we do know is that any armed, foreign presence in Japan may be inappropriate for the current geopolitical climate in the Indo-Pacific region.
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u/dearth_of_passion 3h ago
Not hearing about similar activities from other armed forces doesn't mean that it doesn't happen.
That's not what the person you're replying to was saying.
They were saying you don't hear about American Marines murdering civilians near European bases to nearly the same degree as near the Japanese bases.
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u/Soggy_otter 15m ago
BBC did a report about date rapes in the UK by USAF personnel a couple of months ago.
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u/the_amazing_lee01 5h ago
I wonder if it's just being so separated that makes people stationed there lose their minds.
You don't really see this in other overseas bases in Europe.
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u/WalterWoodiaz 6h ago
Shifted? You must have not talked to anyone who has served lol
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u/kmyash 6h ago
Sitting in a hotel in Japan with my dad talking about this right now. Said the same thing happened when he was stationed in Okinawa DECADES ago
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u/Irregular475 6h ago
Yup, an old buddy of mine was in Okinawa in 08 as a Marine, and was later dishonorably discharged for fighting with the locals too much.
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u/SgtSniffles 4h ago edited 4h ago
Doesn't this happen like once every 5-7 years?
Edit: The reported number I'm finding from Okinawa Prefecture Police is 27 murders by US servicemen since 1972, when the island was returned to Japan. So that's almost exactly a rate of once every other year.
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u/nomadicfeet 5h ago
I was in Oki in 2008 (as a civilian but working closely with the military) and a Marine was charged with raping a 14 year old local girl. Probably hardly made the news in the US. These heinous crimes will keep happening. There’s no legit reason why there are still so many US bases and personnel there
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u/ArchmageXin 4h ago
I been told by (Former US troop stationed in Korea turned teacher), the idea is so if China/North Korea/Russia etc throw down with one of our allies, the few thousands American soldiers that would get steamrolled over would stiffen the spines of US political establishment to do what is necessary to save South Korea/Europe/Japan etc.
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u/Arctrooper209 1h ago
Yup, it's called a Tripwire force. There's great fear among American strategists that if a war broke out the American people won't support defending our allies. You'd think defending a fellow democratic country like Japan would be something all Americans would support but... when it comes down to actually going to war against China people can be selfish and shortsighted. The Tripwire gives them something that more directly affects them to care about.
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u/WalterWoodiaz 6h ago
Marine training is cruel and traumatizing. And it attracts the worst types of people to join the military. I don’t trust marines in general.
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u/Yommination 3h ago
Every person I know who joined the marines came back a total raging asshole. Night and day different personality
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u/BigDisarray 5h ago
It’s neither cruel, nor traumatizing to undergo recruit training. It’s an exercise in repetition and degradation but you can clearly see what it is, and the requirements to pass are easily figured out. If you join but learn you can’t do it, go home, it’s not for you.
To say it attracts the worst kind of people is a gross over generalization at best.
It’s a cross-section of this country and it represents the truths in all of us. I’ve met the best people, and some of the worst people in service. I’d still pick a Marine 9/10 times to have my back anywhere in this world.
There will always be evil, and this Marine lost everything he had including the title. He no longer represents us, and should be treated like the murderer he may very well be.
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u/cire1184 4h ago
What's that saying? Once a marine always a marine? But I guess that's selective as well.
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u/shoo-flyshoo 4h ago
Sorry cupcake but that dude is just as much of a Marine as you, and Marine culture breeds a lot of bad shit. Own it and improve upon it
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u/Hatedpriest 5h ago
The training is brutal, sure.
But you're talking like it's not the poor youths that are taking the jobs. Just aching to make something of themselves, fresh outta high school, barely able to sign the paperwork that strips their individuality away.
Sure, you might get a couple rich kids in there, but most of those will hit ROTC and become an officer out the gate.
And these kids are shown the glory of warfare, but aren't shown the benefits of restraint.
You're not getting a "cross section of America." You're getting kids that are already a bit jilted. Stable people with a listed future aren't going to go become a marine for fun. It's not some "higher calling" from some twisted deity. You get people that think it'd be fun to kill someone.
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u/WalterWoodiaz 5h ago
I don’t think all marines are bad people, but the culture allows bad actors to really thrive. Its recruitment also caters to most wanting to join the military for violent means.
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u/CountDraculablehbleh 5h ago
The primary objective of the military is to destroy its enemies when needed of course it attracts people who wouldn’t be the best fit for normal society they’ve existed for thousands of years
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u/TheMustySeagul 4h ago
And this right here ladies and gentlemen is why the US military trains like they do. It’s to instill obedience, nationalism, and to beat you down to the point of acceptance and reverence. It’s the purest form of propaganda.
It attracts the poorest, violent, and uneducated.
My best friend was a marine. He fucking hates this country with a passion now, and he recognized all that. Dude served and nothing positive came from it.
It shouldn’t “be” for anyone.
Thats just mine and his take though.
Bet he’d be the 1/10 you wouldn’t want with you though.
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u/dougie0341 3h ago
I’ll disagree with you on pretty much all those points as a combat veteran marine. The military and the Marines specifically train to instill discipline, and esprit de corps. They train the way they do because of your commanding officer tells you to charge a hill, you charge the hill. Imagine if the soldiers on DDAY saw their comrades dieing and said “yeah fuck that I’m not gonna go out there I’ll get shot.
While the military is appealing to lower income people, I came from an upper middle class family and so did probably 50% of my platoon. I served in the infantry which does have one of the lowest ASVAB requirements in the Marines but I scored a 98 on my ASVAB and again, a large portion of my platoon was similarly well educated. Are there mouth breathing crayon eaters in the military, absolutely, but there are also a large amount of very smart people. On the point of violence, if your primary job is to kill the enemy, you want people who can be violent, that’s their job. But outside of combat we all knew how to turn it off.
Like your friend I despise where this country at is now. I’m pissed off I lost countless friends, years of my life, and now have serious mental health issues. But I wouldn’t change anything.
In the end this is sadly nothing new for the Marine Corps in Japan and it’s horrible. I feel horrible for this girls family and every Japanese family that’s ever been negatively impacted by Marines there but please don’t judge all of us based on the actions of a select few or group all of them as poor violent idiots when so many of them have given their life willingly for this country
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u/FrankNitty_Enforcer 5h ago
Having grown up in a town right next to Pendleton, went to school with dozens of so-called “base kids”, I will concur. And I say this as someone who adamantly opposes our country’s military industrial complex, aggressive/interventionist tactics and all of the jingoistic madness.
Some of the most solid people I’ve ever met are (now former) USMC, I trained with many of them at a local martial arts dojo. I’d trust these guys over many civilians, including many that I’m close with.
I’ve also encountered many of the disgraceful ones, overdrinking and yelling about loving to “kill towel heads” at the local bars, people I deeply despise and are a shame to our country.
There’s just very little you can deduce about a person by their decision to join the Corps.
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u/kmyash 6h ago
Plenty of reasons to join the Marines or any other military branch. Plenty of bad reasons among them. Some fine ones too
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u/WalterWoodiaz 6h ago
Nothing inherently wrong with joining the military, but someone choosing the marines will instantly make me think “why?”
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u/UnderABig_W 4h ago
For me, it was because it was a challenge because their physical fitness standards were the highest and their training the longest. In retrospect, that wasn’t the best reason to join the Marines, but it wasn’t a “bad” reason.
I knew another kid who joined the Marines because the AF and Army recruiter were terrible and the Marine guy treated him like he was part of the family.
Sure, there were some jackwagons who had “bad” reasons, but a lot of the reasons didn’t reflect poorly on the individual.
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u/Pheighthe 5h ago
They do have the best uniforms, which may be a factor for the average teenage recruit. Also, many Marines have a parent who was a Marine.
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u/WalterWoodiaz 6h ago
Keep lapping up the kool aid, out of all branches in military, choosing the marines shows not only a desire for the macho “I want to hurt people” fantasy, but the training is a massive culture of bullying and suffering.
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u/CountDraculablehbleh 5h ago
Some people legitimately want to hurt and kill other people and they get good at it
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u/QuackingWahoo 6h ago
Oh I agree that’s it’s always been bad, but the current direction of leadership is making this problem even worse.
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u/WalterWoodiaz 6h ago
Your comment gives the impression that the marines in Okinawa were professional, which is laughably incorrect.
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u/StrixEcho 5h ago
When I was in the Navy in 2014 there were talks among the enlisted about avoiding going to Japan for your next duty station because a marine supposedly murdered a taxi driver. This shit isn’t new. Marines are some bad dudes in a fight…the problem is that when there’s no fight they seem to make one up.
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u/Flatline1775 6h ago
When I was in Oki we weren’t allowed off base because of incidents like this. That was like 20 years ago now. This isn’t new.
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u/kwijyb0 4h ago
So what was the reason in the 90s?
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u/Irregular475 6h ago
Ha, this is a thing with soldiers man.
Buddy of mine back in 08 was a marine. Fresh outta highschool.
He was stationed in Okinawa.
He was later dishonorably discharged for constantly fighting with the locals.
Military men do it all the time, always have.
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u/Mammoth-Buddy8912 5h ago
My biggest regret in life was enlisting. I believed in the whole elite warrior defenders, when I was a kid. But then I got to boot camp and all I saw was bullies and racists.
I still remember they had a guy who was Hmong decent dance for them and he was crying and the drill instructors kept yelling at him and calling him slurs. They were laughing the whole time to. I got out as fast as I could.
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u/AlexandbroTheGreat 6h ago
How was he before he joined?
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u/Irregular475 5h ago
Nice guy, but insecure. Overweight and self conscious about it (training for the Marines made him a hunk), funny, friendly, smart. Not a tough guy at all either, as in, was afraid to fight.
When he came back I remember taking him out to a bar thin one time. We were having a good time and all, until I make a joke and say something in an over-the-top-gay voice and touch his leg with my hand.
He loses it, grabs my hand and throws it off his knee (this was a very good friend of mine mind you, knew him for years) and screamed at me to never do that shit again. I told him to chill, and we both got a little quiet after that.
Dude came back mostly the same person, but with some extra baggage for sure. I'm convinced the Marines scarred him.
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u/TailRudder 5h ago
He might have always been like that. People just tend to lose their filters as they get older and let out the weird bits show more freely.
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u/AlexandbroTheGreat 5h ago
The vast, vast majority manage not to get dishonorably discharged (super uncommon, but I assume you really mean an OTH or Bad Conduct Discharge). If you go into any group and come out as officially in the worst 5% of that group, that's really more about your character and less about the organization that kicked you out.
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u/duncandun 4h ago
Shit the fuck up man. The us armed forces have always been pieces of shit anywhere they’re stationed lol
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u/Warden_lefae 5h ago
The base in Okinawa has long been a problem, the locals would love to see it closed
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u/Jolly-Elderberry6706 5h ago
I urge you to look at the crimes statistics over the past 20 years.
Japan proposed paying in full for a new US base on the mainland a decade ago to get the troops out of there. This is not a new thing. That was Obama era stuff.
There are plenty of things to hate on the current administration for. You don't need to intentionally be dense to make things up.
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u/tommycahil1995 5h ago
This has been extremely common for years the 'shift' under Trump that you think happened doesn't change this. Read about what the US army did during the Korean war, Vietnam War, to Japan, Thailand and many others places. It's covered up on a huge scale also
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u/shah_of-iran 5h ago
If that’s the narrative you are going with you have little to no historical knowledge of US military presence in Japan. This literally happens every couple years in Oki specifically. I’m all in favor of being critical of the current Admin but this definitely isn’t on them
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u/Pyro-Bird 5h ago
Ummmm.. about that. They have been doing these despicable acts in Japan since the end of World War II.
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u/IllustriousSalt1007 5h ago
I don’t like him either but you cannot seriously blame this on Hegseth. Come on man
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u/Tricky-Common-1676 3h ago
In 1995 3 US servicemen abducted and raped a 12 year old Japanese girl in Okinawa. Apparently they've never been the upstanding heroes we were told.
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u/Semper_Fi_132 3h ago
This has been happening far earlier before this administration. Now a case can be made that the current admin has made it more likely for something like this to happen but let’s not pretend we were squeaky clean before.
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u/Pretend_Handle_7639 4h ago
If you come before the enemy, he will be defeated! No quarter will be given! Prisoners will not be taken! Whoever falls into your hands is forfeited! Just as a thousand years ago the Huns under their king Attila made a name for themselves, one that even today makes them seem mighty in history and legend, so may the name Germany be affirmed by you in such a way in China that no Chinese will ever again dare to look cross-eyed at a German!
Minus the coherence, this could have come straight from Krasnov's or Kegsbreath's mouths
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u/Fritzkreig 6h ago
At this point we should recognize that we just need to shut down the bases on Okinawa and leave, if the JDF will take over and agree to let the US use them in the case of something like a kaiju‽
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u/EyesOfAzula 6h ago
Or just restrict troops to the base so they can't leave it unless they are official business, like what the US does in the Middle East
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u/DanielCraigsAnus 6h ago
That is the real answer. Or restrict them like they do in Korea.
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u/Flannel_Panels 6h ago
Thats old. Korea isnt under curfew and hasn't been for almost a decade now. They are transitioning from short tour to regular accompanied tours.
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u/WalterWoodiaz 6h ago
Japan’s military has an average age of 35. They want the US military there so they don’t have to worry about increasing defense spending drastically when they are in so much debt.
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u/uiemad 5h ago
The government would love to spend more on defense. They've been slowly expanding their defense budget and capabilities over time and are currently aiming to raise to 2% GDP with the end goal being to amend the constitution to allow for a true military.
It's the people who havehistorically largely opposed such things.
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u/WalterWoodiaz 5h ago
Yeah and I am sure Japan has a large supply of 18-25 year old men to serve.
Without South Korea/Taiwan level conscription, JSDF will be permanently undermanned.
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u/uiemad 5h ago
They have more than enough to serve in the military. The reason recruitment is poor is that joining the military is fairly poor career decision here and on top of that the job comes with pretty much none of the cultural/community respect that accompanies it in the US. Whereas in the US, recruitment is severely uplifted by things like access to lifelong healthcare and free education, benefits that are largely unnecessary in Japan.
Either way, that's not really my point. You said the government wants excuses to not raise spending. That's factually wrong. The government is currently pushing for raising spending and has been doing so for years.
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u/ArchmageXin 4h ago
Taiwan level conscription
You mean Israel right?
Taiwan level conscription really isn't anything to talk about.
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u/SaulEntropy 6h ago
It has now actually been documented 15 times over what happens to these US bases in the event of an actual war.
Maybe just remove them all.
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u/No_Cucumber3978 6h ago
Sure. China would love that.
...in fact, I think I've seen this in a film.
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u/Diskonto 6h ago
Yeah you dont need to turn everything into you sinophobic fantasy.
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u/WalterWoodiaz 6h ago
Saying the term sinophobic unironically is hilarious. China is much more powerful than the rest of East Asia, they aren’t being oppressed.
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u/jamar030303 51m ago
China is much more powerful than the rest of East Asia, they aren’t being oppressed.
The fact that they can make the rest of the world acknowledge their idea of what Taiwan should be is proof enough of that.
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u/woolfonmynoggin 6h ago
China isn’t your enemy. They’ve done nothing to you, just saying.
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u/Fcking_Chuck 5h ago edited 5h ago
While I don't believe that sinophobia is an appropriate reaction to this news development, the Chinese government has affected the rest of the world with their own misdeeds. Lest we forget that they hesitated to disclose the COVID-19 outbreak until well after their containment measures failed and the illness spread internationally. They had also impeded the efforts for a timely investigation of the incident.
China is not our ally, but I do not believe that the threat of China justifies an enduring U.S. presence in Japan while our personnel continue to harm their people. We should be encouraging Japan to be independent because they are our ally.
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u/TallyHoBababana 3h ago
The entire reason modern-day Japan exists is because the US wanted a bulkhead in Asia against the Soviet Union and then later on China. The US will never withdraw from Japan as they have always viewed them as the enemy.
While I don't believe that sinophobia is an appropriate reaction to this news development, the Chinese government has affected the rest of the world with their own misdeeds.
You can say the same exact thing about the US, but on a greater and longer scale.
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u/stfumate 5h ago
True but China and democracy are Idealogically opposed. They are also a strong reaginal if not global power and Japan would perfer if we were there to deter any hostilitys or China pressing their power advantage.
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u/duncandun 4h ago
China isn’t out there invading countries halfway around the world because they have a different form of government lol unlike some countries
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u/ArchmageXin 4h ago
Why is China and Democracy ideologically opposed? China is not a Democracy, that is true, but China haven't actively launch proxy wars against democratic nations though.
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u/PigFarmer1 5h ago
I'm surprised Kegsbreath and company didn't smuggle him out of the country.
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u/Pheighthe 5h ago
Due to the Status of Forces Agreement we have with Japan, it’s extremely likely he’ll go to Leavenworth. Forever.
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u/DefinitelyNotAliens 1h ago
20 year old Marine following a woman into a hotel and leaving with her things. Woman is found strangled. Guy steals her things.
I'm going out on a limb and saying he strangled and murdered a sex worker. Second theory is he was treating a local as a sex worker.
POS guy doing POS things to a woman he sees as less than him.
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u/International_Goat31 5h ago
I'm shocked! This surely must be the first time that this has ever happened!
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u/sillylittlguy 4h ago
When Ameria sends its people, they're not sending their best... They're sending people that have lots of problems... They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.
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u/RuckFeddi7 6h ago
You don't attract the brightest mind that join the military, unfortunately.
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u/Frame-Dragging-IRL 4h ago
The only people who join the military are desperate. You're all mercenaries. You will kill who you're paid to kill. Stop acting like y'all have honor lmao
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u/JinkoTheMan 3h ago
Which is why this country needs to do a better job giving desperate people more options. It’s real easy to criticize people for joining the military when you’re not in their shoes.
I’m not going to hate on a guy who joined the military to escape a bad situation at home or the woman who joined because it was the only way for her to realistically go to college.
I’m not excusing the fucked up things the military does but not everyone who joins the military is some trigger happy fool or rapist or murderer.
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u/Conscious_System8622 3h ago
Yup just like the entirety of human history… can’t and won’t ever get along. At least I have healthcare for my earth years left.
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u/ritesh808 2h ago
Funny, given the fact that US military has largely been the mercenary arm of the largest and most violent criminal organisation in the world for the longest. All that Hollywood propaganda didn't really last forever, did it?
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u/Iskanderdehz 3h ago
I once read a racist claim Muslims did the most rapes per capita in Germany. So I looked it up and it was Americans (military).
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u/exsnakecharmer 16m ago
Where did you read that?
‘Official German federal crime statistics and reports from the Federal Criminal Police Office (BKA) track suspects by nationality in absolute numbers rather than publishing comprehensive per-capita rankings for every specific foreign group.
According to government responses to parliamentary inquiries (such as data covering recent years), the largest absolute numbers of non-German suspects in sexual offenses and group rapes typically come from countries such as Syria, Afghanistan, Iraq, and Turkey.’
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u/FartyFartsMD 2h ago
Hasn’t this been happening for over 80 years? The military doesn’t care and this administration especially applauds it.
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u/ihohjlknk 4h ago
US Service Members have menaced and victimized the population of Okinawa for decades. This is not a new occurrence. They're probably responsible for most of the violent crime on the island, but the Okinawan police are not allowed to prosecute them. Japan should review their 'security agreements' with America.
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u/krisrock4589 3h ago
Okinawan police definitely are allowed to prosecute them, they just also have to allow them to be prosecuted by the military too, so they get double punishment.
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u/Zubon102 4h ago
Do you have a source for the claim that "US service members are responsible for most of the violent crime on the island"?
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u/Elethiomelschair 1h ago
Uh no it’s just because they’re very public, there are 50,000 or more troops on that Island and every few years something heinous happens… the per capita crime rate is lower than the US proper. It’s just a numbers game you rotate hundreds of thousands of people through a place and a few will turn out to be murderers. It’s like expecting a small city to have zero crime and the minute one bad thing happens condemning everyone who lives there as evil… you wouldn’t apply that same logic to a murder in some random city.
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u/PCho222 2h ago
Unfortunately par for the course for the bottom 10% of marines and soldiers. Either you renovate this from leadership down (not happening especially with current admin) or you make these assignments terrible i.e. off-base official travel only, same for officers as we lead by example. Unfortunately I think the latter is the only way to reduce this. I say this as someone who loved their liberties going off base over there.
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u/kingkongsdingdong420 2m ago
Most of the frothing at the mouth comments here are hiding their posts and comments. Its because they're pro China and Russia bots.
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u/Evergood1976 5h ago
Americans think they have a free pass throughout the world. Times are a changing and they ain't gonna like it, no biscuits and gravy in hell.
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u/Infamous-Sky-1874 5h ago
Okinawa has always had issues with Marines doing terrible shit to the people living there.
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u/HotelAmericana 5h ago
Yep! Laws around the world never applied to Americans before now! You seriously think this?
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u/Kitakitakita 5h ago
someone just needs to tell Trump that Shinzo Abe wouldn't have approved of this and he might actually do something
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u/JAX2905 5h ago
Just a high T warrior doing high T warrior things. /s