r/nbadiscussion • u/alex8762 • 19d ago
Player Discussion How well will Myles Turner and Kelel Ware play together in a double big line up ?
The bucks are one of the few teams in the NBA with 2 legit starting level stretch 5s and that gives the Bucks pretty unique lineup options that can potentially synergize with the large amount of young but talented guards they have, kind of how Movley and Allen cover for Mitchell's, Garlands and Harden's defense issues.
Do you think Ware and Turner would play well together in a lineup? Which center would be better at the 4?
I feel like Ware would cover Turner's rebounding weaknesses at least, while Turner would operate on the perimeter better, and both would be able to protect the rim.
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u/krusty-krab69 19d ago
In nba 2k having two stretch 5s on the court to spam pick and pops with works really well. This is a reference to how wrong and unrealistic nba 2k is
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u/lemurRoy 18d ago
I mean it would work and nice for spacing on offense, the part that might not work is on the defensive end, I feel like it’d be easy to get a lot of mismatches where your big gets blown by smaller quicker forwards/guards
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u/Suitable-Internal-12 18d ago
Ware is springy and quick enough to guard 2-5, and Turner isn’t exactly lumbering either
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u/Yankeeknickfan 17d ago
It would work if it was two 2026 Karl anthony towns at C/PF
Kat was agood rim protector and showed he could play the 4 well in minny
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u/yardship 19d ago
kel el ware was really bad at protecting the rim last year. he allowed 66% at the rim on 6 attempts a game. which is basically the vucevic/mark williams/jokic zone of bad defense.
maybe in a different system with a worse coach he could be better? but yeah so far kel el ware has been awful as a backline defender.
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u/UltraTiberious 18d ago
Ware has that Whiteside defense mentality right now. It looks good if you’re only looking at rim-blocking but his motor is not there. There are moments where he’s not focused and not actively thinking about how he can disrupt the offense before they get a shot off. He has the potential to do that but his physical talent precedes over his BBIQ
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u/seynomo 18d ago
The issue is neither can handle the ball. In order for the double big to work one of them has to be able to at least dribble the ball on the wing. In Cleveland Evan Mobley can handle decently. Same in Houston with Sengun. Because of the elimination of the mid range and elbow shot, defenders will sag off deeper into the paint making it impossible to operate. My guess is Turner probably gets moved to the Clippers with a future first so Milwaukee can get off his contract
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u/DistanceEmbarrassed5 18d ago
Trade Turner, Kuzma, Herro, Jaques,
Tair this thing down to the studs, stockpile as many assets as possible. Idk why Milwaukee has held on to all their veteran players.
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u/alex8762 17d ago
A huge part of the bucks failure was doc rivers compare Turner's and GTJ's being coached by doc vs by other coaches
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u/lawjic 18d ago
I'm biased obviously as a Bucks fan but I say at least see how it plays out. I actually think the Bucks will be more competitive than people think. We were 32-50 last year with Doc Rivers and about 30 games of Giannis, and Giannis was pretty checked out all year.
Meanwhile our roster and coach are significantly better than last year. I know other teams got better too but I don't see how we will be worse than last year. But most people don't know many Bucks players outside of Giannis so they just assume that we are just garbage without Giannis even though he didn't play barely at all last year.
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u/DistanceEmbarrassed5 18d ago
Stockpiling assets is way more important than winning games. So is letting our young players get heavy playing time.
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u/lawjic 18d ago
That's fair. Personally I'm still excited to see how the team does this upcoming season. These are still moves that can be made at the deadline if it's not looking great for us. But hey if we have good tradable players, why not keep them around for a bit? If other teams want to trade for them now or in the future then they must be good so why don't we take a shot on them? Could be a fun team and the young guys could learn from the vets as well. I want to see what this team can do with no Giannis distractions and no Doc.
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u/DistanceEmbarrassed5 17d ago
Unfortunately I dont think anyone on our roster is worth a FRP with the exception of Rollins and Ware.
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u/FuzzyBucks 12d ago
Max upside this year is we make the play-ins but don't get out the first round.
More likely is 30-35 wins if we keep everyone and finish 12th place
You really want to turn down a better future to watch that play out?
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u/Maximum-Class5465 18d ago
Maybe very well. My only thing is their guards don't run a ton of actions for anyone else. That could have been a Doc thing, but they didn't run a lot of PNRs or any sort of two man actions or involvements anytime I watched. It was basically dribble the ball up and shoot or drive. ..
We will have to see if that was by design or not
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u/KingOHearts22 17d ago
I think it could work, especially with Turner at the 4. Ware gives you more size and rebounding inside, while Turner can pull the other big out to the perimeter. The big question is defense; if both get dragged into space, it could get ugly.
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u/CoercedCoexistence22 16d ago
For what it's worth, last year turner played a bunch of minutes at the 4 with Sims at the 5 and they weren't atrocious
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u/tandyzmills 19d ago
the rockets could do the same. not quite on these guys' level, but still damn good.
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u/Mental-Drop-2289 18d ago
I think KW9 usually comes off the bench while Turner starts. However, against teams with dominant big men like Embiid, Jokic, or Giannis, they will share the court at the same time.
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u/DistanceEmbarrassed5 18d ago
Milwaukee would be dumb to have Ware come off the bench, they are rebuilding giving their young players as much playing time as possible should be top priority, even if they finish dead last.
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u/Barracuda374 18d ago
The fear Spo had with ware is if you give him a starting job it’s going to be tougher to get him to improve defensively because “he’s made it”, that’s not how every player sees things but having watched ware for the last two seasons his effort is really bad unless he’s motivated.
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