r/moviecritic • • 1d ago

Why is Digger so divisive?

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I’ve noticed a pretty big split in reactions to Digger. Some people talk about it like it’s a masterpiece, while others seem to really dislike it or find it hard to connect with.

I can honestly see both sides. There are elements I understand people loving, but I also get why others might strongly push back against it.

For those who have seen it, where do you land?

What do you think makes Digger great, and what do you think does not work about it?

I’m especially curious to hear from both sides: people who think it deserves the praise, and people who bounced off it completely.

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u/Comfortable_Studio37 1d ago

Let me ask this question: (spoilers)

Do you all think the reception of this movie would be much better if the whole play aspect was dropped and the story of Digger was presented straightforward like the trailers advertised?

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u/Flaky_Quote8808 1d ago

spoilers:

Then it would be Don’t Look Up  with Tom Cruise- ‘activism’ movies ring hollow in a world where income inequality is so stark and corruption so obvious. That’s why the cloying sincerity of Don’t Look Up got a lot of hate from audiences and critics.

I think Digger is satirizing/darkly depicting efforts at artistic ‘advocacy’ in our era. The play is chaotic and overdone and laying it on too thick- Tom Cruise’s critique. And then we learn that it’s ultimately a project of the wealthy, meant to give people some meaning and catharsis . Meanwhile, in the real world- things are really getting worse. The air is bad, and climate change is threatening tom cruise’s child. Ultimately, we see that it’s the rich folks that have the power, and the dark, quasi-triumphant fantasy of digger and the president’s grisly deaths are revealed to be meaningless. 

We are pulled from the play in the movie (digger dies), to the movie setting, where we hear ‘level 4’ and watch people get up to leave into the dystopian future. Then finally we are pulled out of the movie itself as the we hear a loud final announcement, ‘Level 4’  that is meant to remind us that we, in real life, are like those people in the theater in the movie. I thought it was clever. For me it was a bleak depiction, and a grim call to action. 

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u/the_d0nkey 1d ago

If you stay to the end of the credits, the voice warns of Level 4 as you leave the theater.

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u/Flaky_Quote8808 1d ago

Yeah. Iñárritu has had some misses. But I think this and bird man are pretty great, ambitious filmmaking.

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u/Useful_Dirt_323 22h ago

My only irk with this movie is that the play itself just isn’t that funny. If it were funny it would be an all time classic.

Other than that it’s brilliantly made. That scene in the European council was just spectacular

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u/nicodana 14h ago

I dunno, I had a couple good laughs. There are lots of funny details. I could see this being like a Big Lebowski type thing where you notice more upon rewatches

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u/gnalon 10h ago

Yeah there’s some stuff that’s funny (the tiny Digger/Tom Cruise climbing up to get his shovel atop the fireplace so he can cajole the men who are trying to tell him about the disaster), some that’s just good little world-building details (when the rehearsal is about to resume and Curtis is trying to get himself back into the Digger character he passes a little display where it’s currently 99 degrees in New York and a level 3 warning in that same kind of color-coded terror alert that was always on the news post 9/11), and some that’s just bizarre (in the parliamentary speech you suddenly realize there’s a mannequin in the audience, and then there’s more than one, and what is the purpose of that where obviously there were a ton of extras for this production and what’s a few more?).

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u/gnalon 13h ago edited 12h ago

That’s the point though, the play is obviously so far removed from what it originally was. Jesse Plemons’ character is talking about it like it was experimental theater with 3 actors playing every role, now it is this huge production with opulent set design that is even more opulent (rather than some quirky Wes Anderson type of aesthetic) when we see the world outside. It might be the biggest artistic production put on by humans in decades, and what they have chosen for this symbolic production is a premature victory dance with a central message of “yeah that was pretty fucked up but it was a while ago and things are getting back to normal (are they though), so let’s laugh about it”

Tom Cruise’s actor character is meta about how tacky and retro everything looks, and we realize that this was the aesthetic of Digger (extremely meta where this man portrayed by 5’4 Tom Cruise has the biggest Napoleon complex in history down to having his same design aesthetic) and his nephew who was there is fixated on capturing it. 

It is crazy to think of Cruise’s character where prior to the iceberg he was a Tom Cruise type of major celebrity actor (complete with some fall from grace/mental breakdown) in that world, and then he went years/decades where his job was obsolete and this is is first time back in the limelight. As the film goes on, we see his long-unsatiated desire to perform and entertain (both Curtis and Cruise obviously identify with Digger, all the bad things you can say about me might be true but at the end of the day it’s about the almighty dollar and you’re buying what I’m selling) bump against his misgivings that it’s still far too soon to be doing a satirical send-up of this when the environment is still fucked and there was no real accountability for the perpetrators.

There are last-minute rewrites that show up right after Plemons’ character comes onto the scene. Very interesting interplay where Plemons is trying to stay true to painstakingly capturing how things looked (obviously whoever made this play in the even more devastated world of 25 years prior would’ve had a barebones set and had no clue about climate Hitler’s interior design choices), Cruise is full method actor trying to capture what he thinks Digger the man was like (and we see behind the scenes there is something off with him mentally and it is basically this quality/his ability to inhabit his own reality and cajole those around him into getting on board that Plemons feels allows him to be perfect for the part), and the director is trying to capture the spirit of the original play and make something she believes audiences will respond to while being caught in between these two huge egos.

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u/grunt56 1d ago

This is the definition of succinct and concise. Absolutely spot on.

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u/Comfortable_Studio37 1d ago

This is excellent, thank you for writing this. Your comment puts into words the way I was feeling better than anything I've read so far since seeing the film.

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u/Spiritual-Ad8062 1d ago

You nailed it. This movie was amazing. There was a LOT of dark humor/satire happening, against the backdrop of a horrific future. Also Lots of messaging in this one.

Reminded me somewhat of Asteroid City. Very “out there”, and shape shifting. Similar devices. Not always what they seem to be.

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u/rainydog221 1d ago

I saw the movie today. Had a similar read to you. You wrote this very well friend.

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u/gnalon 13h ago edited 12h ago

Fossil Fools is like if Springtime For Hitler from the Producers was originally outsider protest art and then Hitler’s nephew bought the rights to make a sanitized version to show he’s not a crazy tyrant like his uncle and is actually a cool artsy person who’s in on the joke. 

Jesse Plemons is amazing like this, it is like if Todd from Breaking Bad was born into higher-class circumstances and was able to ride his sociopathy hidden behind a good-natured affect to even more power.

I have seen it twice and there are so many little visual storytelling things I didn’t pick up the first time around (like how many characters are profusely sweating early on). One I still didn’t see the 2nd time around because it was going too fast was what were the actual last-minute rewrites to the script going into the plane scene between Cruise and Riz Ahmed. Those were almost certainly suggested by the Plemons character and it would be interesting to see what was originally in there.

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u/Conscious-Dot-1441 1d ago

Don’t Look Up had no respect for the intelligence of the audience

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u/Flaky_Quote8808 1d ago

Agreed- and I think it didn’t know who its audience was. 

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u/Sea_Spend_8008 1d ago

Tbf....the negative comments about Don't Look Up, is that it is too on the nose and Leo is shouting too much about it. However, have you met the average American voter? If you have then you know they need to be screamed at on occasion.

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u/lovegames__ 1d ago

Any movie recommendations?

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u/SeamusMcQuaffer 17h ago

Apt. Apt analysis, Robert.

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u/Educational_Sky_1136 1d ago

The final 5 minutes (including credits) were the most impactful part of the movie for me. Maybe the only part I think hit the mark.

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u/Lazerpop 1d ago

The reception would be more positive but it would be a much less interesting film.

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u/Shadowthron8 1d ago edited 1d ago

This. It was brilliantly written and performed. The surprise is so worth it.
If your largest reason for not seeing a movie is that you don’t know the plot then maybe stick with the shit films entirely spoiled by the trailer

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u/don-again 1d ago

Fuckin-A. Brilliant all around, I’ve told anyone who will listen. Do no research, just go. It was how I saw it and it was fantastic.

You might think Cruise is a bit of an odd duck, but master of his craft, as is the rest of the cast, the directing, the finally ffs original screenplay with just enough ‘commentary’.

I stood up even though the theater I watched it in was largely empty. Standing ovation. Bravo

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u/AcctAlreadyTaken 1d ago

Just left the theater, went in blind and am still processing the movie but enjoyed it. Reading headlines about the movie underperforming kind of made me curious so I just decided to go and see it.

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u/Shadowthron8 16h ago

Good. Respect to you for not ruining surprises or relying on knowing the plot before actually experiencing it

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u/Comfortable_Studio37 1d ago

I think I agree, I need to see it again and see how it changes my perspective.

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u/grunt56 1d ago

I saw it a few hours ago this afternoon (UK) and was already thinking the exact same thing.

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u/cheshie_cabbit 1d ago

The problem is the play is the real story. Digger’s nephew runs a “security company”; think Blackwater. He bankrolls the play and has international resources to find the actor’s daughter. Hell, I’m pretty sure he’s even put a young version of himself in the play with the redhead kid. Cruise’s character even points out “this isn’t what actually happened” and the nephew steps in with some pap about the audience needing a story, when really this is image restoration via a morality comedy.

Digger’s family and money live on. The whole point is the same people are in charge as before, they just packaged up the story as a sort of passion play to make the audience feel like they understand the problem and can move on now. The whole point is the play is meant to be preachy and hollow because it’s selling a story while the people in power remain that way.

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u/JimJimBinks 1d ago

I don’t think so. The “Corporations draining our natural resources” thing has been done before, and done well, as disaster movies, documentaries, and other ways. This… showing it all after the disaster, how they’re laughing at the absurdity and finding hope. That was what I connected to. It reminded me of how newer generations discover Dr. Strangelove.

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u/LegitimateArt4271 1d ago

It still would have to get around the fact that it is disguised as a comedy but not a funny movie. How does one sell this successfully? Who is the audience for a movie like Digger?

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u/Flaky_Quote8808 1d ago

David Ehrlich tweeted something like  ‘watching Iñárritu try to write a joke is like watching Frank Gehry try to draw a straight line’.

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u/Useful_Dirt_323 23h ago

Totally agree. I think it’s a great movie… fantastic set pieces and the most intense parts (like in the European council) were absolutely sublime filmmaking. But the movie wasn’t actually funny to me apart from the scene with the presidents meltdown. It makes a lot of the movie frustrating to watch even if it’s brilliantly crafted and superbly original. I still give an 8/10

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u/DimensionHat1675 1d ago

Problems is, neither part of the story is that interesting. It's meant to be satire but the writing is so half baked. Innaritu loves his cinematic gimmicks, like the single-take Birdman and then this with its rug pull. But he keeps forgetting to write a decent script.

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u/CrasVox 23h ago

The way the trailers sold the movie made me go in with rather low expectations.
The aspect that you mentioned is what elevated the film into something interesting.

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u/Hyperionics1 21h ago

To me its stronger because of ‘your spoiler’. They (the fiction world) are grieving and processing. I feel like the paralel to our actual world is not far off how ridiculous it may seem.

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u/KID_THUNDAH 13h ago

Yes, it turned a lot of people off and made me kinda check out somewhat as well. I was just so all in before that happened

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u/Novogobo 9h ago

here's my issue. i've seen like 8 commericals for it and i have no idea what it's supposed to be about.

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u/FossilizedPenguin 8h ago

Possibly but that defeats the whole purpose of the movie.

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u/robotic-ghost 6h ago

No because, people being people, they will still find things to complain about.

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u/MPOCH 5h ago

Yes, then it would be like a beloved Coen Bros or Wes Anderson film. That. Said. I personally liked it by the end and felt it was a refreshing original experience. Tom Cruise was fantastic.

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u/maporita 1d ago

Perhaps. But I loved the way the story was presented .. it's so refreshing to see something so original right out of the blue. Reminds me of the first time I watched Birdman.

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u/craigslammer 1d ago

Yes and no,

Pull plemmons out. I don’t need to be told exactly why the movie was made. If you’re going to make a piece of art to make you think about our world, why dumb it down?

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u/JohnBrownEnthusiast 1d ago

Because we gotta make it more like Wes Anderson

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u/Unver1f1eduser 1d ago

Which is not a good thing

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u/blkbullnyc 1d ago

As someone who hasn't seen the film yet, I think that letting the cat out of the bag in promotions would have only helped the reaction to this film. I hate the idea that a film lives and dies on whether or not the audience knows the plot to the movie going in. I think thats a crazy way to sell a movie. The few reviews I've seen/read seem to have such a hard time discussing the film without "ruining" it so the review just seems like "i dont like it but I can't really tell you why."

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u/EDPZ 1d ago

I haven't seen it, the trailers just look visually disgusting if that makes sense. The way all the sets look, the lighting, Cruise's make up, the cat, it all just looks so visually repulsive.

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u/Spiritual-Ad8062 1d ago

There’s a reason it looks like that.

I can’t say more without giving away spoilers.

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u/CauliflowerStrong510 1d ago

Thers a reason. Go see it. My favorite movie experience this year so far.

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u/Powrcase 1d ago

I can get on board with this take. It isnt wrong.

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u/Flaky_Quote8808 1d ago

Have you ever seen Brazil, by Terry Gilliam? 

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u/youcanreachmenow 1d ago

Go watch it, there is a reason its like that. I saw it last night, it was very good. The first 5 minutes were a bit wtf

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u/uusrikas 21h ago

When a film looks ugly and acting seems like a hobby theater satire and the film gets 50% rotten tomatoes, it will be something I maybe watch on streaming five years later

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u/youcanreachmenow 21h ago

Sure up to you. But I personally think you are missing out.

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u/Jayngyun 15h ago

You’re the type of person who let the big Lebowski bomb

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u/bigoldfatman1 1d ago

This. Every once in a while there’s takes that you have internally but can’t find the way to verbalize them or make sense until you see someone else write or say it. This is one of those times idk passed couple times I saw the trailer come on i just dread the 45 seconds lol

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u/chillosphy 1d ago

I am the absolute opposite but I can also understand why it would be a turn off

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u/safetydance 1d ago

Ha and once you see the movie, you’ll see why.

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u/-FalseProfessor- 1d ago

That is all very intentional.

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u/Porschenut914 1d ago

i'm getting an intended 80s vibe.

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u/dem4life71 1d ago

This is what I’ve been saying and been downvoted for it. A trailer is supposed to make the viewer WANT to see the film. Every clip looked so disgusting that I can’t imagine sitting through hours of it.

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u/LiamKneeSon808 1d ago

Republicans don't like looking in the mirror is my assumption

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u/Fit-Ranger8895 1d ago

It’s by choice. Go watch it. The first 40 mins will be difficult. And then it will make sense. But I get it.

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u/AnObtuseOctopus 1d ago

I still have no idea wtf this movie even is. The marketing has been abysmal. I've seen 1 short trailer of him washing an almost dead looking cat and another short trailer of him jumping up and grabbing a shovel..

Neither of these have me knowing what to expect, let alone what genre of movie it even is.

I was looking up popular comedies from this year and digger came up, so, I'm completely lost now.

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u/robotic-ghost 1d ago

Personally, I find that refreshing because trailers these days have an unfortunate tendency to tell the entire story of the whole movie in a minute and a half.

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u/PoopyInThePeePeeHole 1d ago

If they are trying to be mysterious and lean on Cruise somehow being all I need to know to want to go see the movie... Yeah, they have failed SPECTACULARLY.

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u/UnderstandingOdd679 1d ago

I kind of got the impression it was Cruise trying to go over the top (since people like his Tropic Thunder character), trying to channel a little Daniel Day-Lewis from There Will Be Blood for an awards run, put into a Don’t Look Up climate satire along with some Wes Anderson Astroid City story within a play within a movie.

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u/showtime218 23h ago

Worked just fine for me. He’s the biggest movie star in the world. What more do you need?

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u/youcanreachmenow 1d ago

You should watch it. I saw it last night and it is a great movie. The trailer is deliberately ambigious because its not what you expect

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u/AnObtuseOctopus 1d ago

Can you atleast tell me the genre?

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u/youcanreachmenow 1d ago

Dark comedy.

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u/AnObtuseOctopus 1d ago

Ok cool, that's something I could get into, I'll watch it.

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u/Puzzleheaded_Loss770 1d ago

I thought it was a baseball movie from the trailer. Cant say it went on my radar to go see it

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u/No_Secret8767 18h ago

Maybe this is a foreign issue, since I’m in the uk, but I felt exactly clear on what the film was about from the trailers. And if I didn’t feel clear, I would’ve just read an article about it, which there was plenty of

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u/kittensmakemehappy08 6h ago

For me it was a mixture of Gilliam, Coen Brothers and Wes Anderson with none of the heart, humor, or whimsy.

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u/Antique-Knowledge-80 1d ago

I'm convinced Big Oil paid off the film critics to drag it haha. Honestly, I'm shocked by how much mainstream film critics seem to hate it. It's a movie that takes some risks and is aware of its heavy-handed messaging. A lot of other films do similar and aren't panned like this.

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u/gnalon 14h ago

Another interesting thing is that it flips the typical ‘disaster’ movie script where the emotional reactions of the characters are less grounded in reality (and of course we gradually see the reason for this) but the effects of the disaster itself are more grounded.

It is more frightening that the disaster is shown explicitly not to be world-ending but one that the ruling class will employ totalitarian means to downplay as it’s happening and then decades later they will feel comfortable enough to lampoon their role in it to show they’re cool and in on the joke.

Then as a satire itself it is harsh (which you have to be, if you made something like Veep these days that wouldn’t really qualify as satire because it would be a toned-down version of the real world) but uses narrative tricks to distance itself from the message.

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u/Hour-Personality-924 17h ago

Right? I have the same feeling.

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u/bunq 13h ago edited 13h ago

The marketing wasn’t nearly as brave as the message of the movie, so moviegoers didn’t know what they were going to see.

The topic unfortunately remains to be a very divisive one. People who don’t know what they are in for but go just for Cruise may be upset by the plot.

American audiences are used to a heroes journey in cinema with a hero and a villian and a happy ending. This is not that kind of movie. In fact, it points the finger at the audience at times, which some may take offense to on their leisure time.

Lastly, I won’t say opinions were bought, but the rich/powerful wouldn’t want this movie to be a successful movie because it would reinforce certain unwanted narratives. For this reason i’m surprised the movie was even made, let alone released.

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u/Grumpy_Girl_1 3h ago

This!! I can’t think of any other reason for the terrible reviews. I loved the parody on today’s administration. I can only think this is being blocked by MAGA supporters.

Such a creative film…was very happy I watched it.

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u/Dave_Fincher 1d ago

Loved it. Went in knowing very little. I only like cruise when he's not himself. That's the case here. He was excellent. The story was interesting and then there's that switch. I was completely thrown but still curious. And then spent the rest of the movie juggling and being thrown by forgetting whether I'm in the movie or the twist and how it all came together at the end.

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u/xendelaar 1d ago

So you liked tropic thunder as well huh? :)

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u/Ok_Guitar7980 1d ago

I saw the movie today. Its a big swing for sure. The marketing is abysmal because it doesn't in any way indicate what the movie actually is, but instead depicts a movie that a great many people don't want to see. And even the people who realize from the marketing that its supposed to be satire, the movie is actually NOT satirizing what the trailer shows it to be. Leaving the people who did want to see what was in the trailer disappointed because its actually not that.

The movie is self-sabotaged by its own marketing, but if marketed different, even less people would probably want to see it.

I liked Cruise's and Plemmons' acting. But the few good ideas from the movie just didnt land well due to poor execution.

For those wondering about a lot of the Birdman comparisons here in the comments, it definitely had vibes like that, but is very different. IMO Birdman was a lot more cohesive and felt like it knew what it wanted to be. Digger felt like it couldn't decide what it wanted to be, so it tried to be everything, and most of it didnt work.

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u/jta314 1d ago

I agree with this take

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u/theme69 1d ago

I’m confused. Does Reddit want trailers that spoil the movie or trailers that don’t

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u/Eff-it-im-commenting 21h ago

Welcome to humans. The most infuriatingly stupid and brilliant piles of shit that ever messed up the world that it made amazing in the first place

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u/blowyjoeyy 18h ago

I loved Birdman. Would I love this?

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u/Astrophizz 49m ago

In some ways it's almost a spiritual sequel to Birdman

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u/Sivy17 1d ago

If I thought Birdman was blowhard shit, do you think I'd enjoy Digger? I haven't been sold on an Inarritu joint yet.

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u/ragnarockette 1d ago

I didn’t like Birdman and loved Digger. However, Digger is absolutely “blowhard shit.”

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u/temblors 15h ago edited 15h ago

Satire just doesn't hit the same way anymore, ever since real life kicked the speedrun towards maximum clown show absurdity into high gear. A lot of people out there don't want to catch even a tiny whiff of "The Message" in their entertainment/escapism and there's definitely some of that vibe coming through in the trailers.

Another film that kind of reminds me of this same sort of phenomenon is Eddington, also divisive at the time and many people seemed totally befuddled by it for some reason. Had it been released a year or two sooner, it might have been lauded as a brilliant work of art.

Whether Digger actually does fit in this same category or not is probably of secondary importance because regardless it seems like people are reacting as if it were. Personally, I think the marketing they spent so much on was the source of most of the problem.

I was almost instantaneously turned off when I saw the first ad for Digger, like in the first few seconds it was an instinctive "Nope!" that came from like reptile brain. Whatever went on with the marketing idk but seriously total epic fail.

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u/PhilosophyKitchen871 13h ago

Listening to the credit music after after "level 4" announcement only for our credit music to abruptly stop with the same "level 4" announcement with golden in my opinion. I know many people won't get the message because you're right. We live in Eddington. We live in Digger. Those pieces of media aren't satire at this point, those movies are mirrors. Just like Don't look up

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u/ihaveacrushonmercy 13h ago

I agree with every point you made, but I also want to say never underestimate the ick people have for uncanny valley (Tom Cruise in an old man mask). I think it just reminds people of that skit from I Think You Should Leave.

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u/taway9925881 9h ago

Titkok and Shitsagram and Fakebook have fried people's brains and turned them into sheeple zombies. 

They won't get satire if it slapped them in the face. And it's fashionable to be outraged at just about anything. 

This movie is a benchmark in how stories should be and will be told. A certified cult classic in the future. 

This is Tom Cruise at his absolute best. 

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u/Puzzleheaded-Fig5688 9h ago

Agreed. Somewhere along the way we lost our ability to understand and appreciate satire. “Sheepie Zombies”..lol

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u/No-Instruction-8964 9h ago

People can understand the satire and still not think something is great, it doesn't always mean they didn't understand it

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u/Phillzster 1d ago

Im not sure if I liked it or not beacuse for me it was one of those movies where you walk out of the cimena and say to yourself what did I just watch

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u/Hayes4prez 1d ago

I’m going tomorrow but hearing that makes me believe I’m going to like it. I want movies taking artistic risks.

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u/Affectionate_Yam7842 1d ago

Also it's nice to let a movie simmer in your mind, memorable isnt the end all be all, but it often is. 

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u/l337sponge 1d ago

99% of people will hate this movie because Digger is just a mirror of everyone as a whole. Nobody wants to admit they are Digger. 11/10 film.

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u/rogerworkman623 1d ago

Honestly, most of the “reactions” to this movie I’ve seen online seem to be from people who didn’t see it. Plus people reveling in the fact that it had a shitty opening weekend, which is another weird thing the internet does now.

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u/endogenix1 1d ago

I absolutely loved it and so did my wife. When the reveal that what we have been watching for the first half hour was part of a stage production I was taken out of the experience for a bit but I was drawn back into it as it progressed, then when the second twist happened and we realize that the play they are producing was about something that had already happened in world it was a gut punch. I honestly don't understand why people don't like it.

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u/safetydance 1d ago

I’ll try and explain my perspective as someone who didn’t really like it, but maybe did? Or, at least I found some of the artistic stuff amazing while other stuff was awful. Anyways…

The first 20-30 minutes were chaotic and annoying but I was sort of immediately invested in Digger’s character. I was intrigued by his home, the constant flow of characters in and out, and dealing with the calamity at hand. I also had a weird suspicion something was afoot as the opening shot of Digger “waking up” in bed and yawning felt fake. Like someone pretending to wake up with the silly yawn and stretch. I wasn’t rooting for or against Digger, but I was invested in the character right away (a testament to Cruise’s performance).

Then, when the twist occurred, it sort of sucked the life out of the film for me. I no longer cared about Digger or the actor playing Digger. I think the Director knew this and that’s why they tried to force in the missing kid story. Like, look here, he has a missing kid, you should care about him.

I thought the exile scene to the oil rig didn’t fit very well and was just weird.

Some of the art direction and, of course, Cruise’s performance were amazing.

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u/endogenix1 1d ago

Did it pull you back in when you realized that the play was a reenactment of events that had happened in world?

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u/safetydance 1d ago

It pulled me back in slightly at that moment but I was more interested in the disaster and how it unfolded than the characters and that all happened off screen.

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u/Yoshilaidanegg 17h ago

Isn't John Goodman in this? If he is then this is a good movie

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u/peechka3 9h ago

LOVED IT. Turn your phones off and actually watch a fucking movie

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u/Low_life_high_lights 1d ago

This is America, people cant like something without someone else hating on them for liking it, with a million unoriginal clones adopting the identical opinion.

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u/mimosaorangepunch 21h ago

This is America? Shit I thought it was the whole world I'm in! Silly me.

Love from Scotland, a non existent place

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u/walt-mickey 1d ago

Why are you asking this question if you “can honestly see both sides”

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u/schnozzberriestaste 1d ago

to invite perspectives on what could be an interesting discussion?

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u/Mrlearnalot 1d ago

Because it’s art. And society doesn’t appreciate arts… the individual does, but the individual isn’t society. Society is its own organism and that organism influences the individual, and the individual is so used to following the flow of society that it is unable to see and appreciate the individuality of art

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u/Eastern-Cold7087 23h ago

How much wood would a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck would chuck wood?

I know you thought your comment was really insightful…but c’mon man…

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u/Mrlearnalot 23h ago edited 23h ago

lol, I smoked a joint and then saw this post. Sorry

Edit: And also, no I didn’t think this was really insightful, it’s just what I feel.

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u/kon--- 1d ago

You're seeing three camps.

One camp that enjoys the film. A second camp that the film does not work for not even a little and a third camp that shows to toss shit about the place any time Tom Cruise appears in a movie.

The first two camps, it's like any movie...they either work for the viewer to varying degrees or also to varying degrees cause the viewer to want to stop watching because what even is this?

The third camp, well...they operate with a head stuffed full of sniffing their own farts.

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u/Sudden_Eyes 17h ago edited 17h ago

The marketing has been terribly vague and confusing. Worst trailer in recent memory. It’s going to bomb because of it.
But some aholes on social media are blaming the hesitant audience for not just going blindly to support original content “that they claim they want.”
Meanwhile ticket prices are $25 avg.
It’s a stupid controversy.

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u/Ace20xd6 1d ago

It wants to be Death of Stalin while also arguing why that kind of satire can be cathartic. But Digger's story just isn't as funny or well written.

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u/RussMan104 1d ago

Death of Stalin is, quite literally, superb. 🚀

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u/nt2btrstd 1d ago

If it’s anything like death of Stalin I’ll def go see it, death of Stalin is one of my favourite comedies ever

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u/Aromatic-Dog-Breath 1d ago

I watched a trailer for it in theater. I still don’t really know what it’s about and don’t know why I should be interested. Definitely not paying to see it but when it’s streaming for free, I’ll give the first 30 mins a chance.  

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u/TheCobalt- 1d ago

Just saw it today. It's pretty impossible to discuss the movie without spoiling it and there's really no way to do trailers that would explain it without spoiling anything.

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u/concreteunderwear 1d ago

Recommend seeing it

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u/spennyspaghetti 1d ago

Exactly this, the marketing for the movie absolutely fucked up the release. I’ve never heard so much about a movie before and still not have any idea what the movie is about. Like I have no idea. If you’re going to market a movie without sharing a synopsis least give me some sort of selling point on why I should see it. Like “critics call it the most bizarre and hilarious movie you’ll see all year”. I think it’s a comedy, a black, or wacky, or dramady I don’t know. It’s got Tom Cruise in it with old man makeup, he holds a shovel, washes a cat. I just don’t get it and I can’t be bothered to care.

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u/Automatic_Event9691 21h ago

Story, Screenplay, Cinematography, BGM, Acting everything landed perfectly for me including the humour.
A complete entertainer for me.

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u/tideshark 6h ago

I love weird shit and satire and this looks like both, looking forward to it

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u/DirtyMike64 3h ago

I really enjoyed it and can't get it off my mind. But I really love a movie that pokes and prods at the audience and holds the mirror up. I like having to keep my brain on during a movie, and this definitely kept me thinking and I haven't stopped.

General audiences do not like to be challenged or pushed or made to think, so mix that with the complete lack of marketability of the movie, and you have a box office flop.

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u/cassiuswright 1d ago

The Big Lebowski was a box office flop and is now roundly considered one of the diffinitive cult classics of it's generation..

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u/ELOs_Time_1981 1d ago

Honestly, I just wanted a weird looking movie where Tom Cruise overacts as some crazy dude with a shovel. And it isn’t that at all. Which isn’t inherently bad, but when the actual film you get seems more interested in the idea that it’ll have some unique twist without actually making the twist feel like it has weight or meaning, making the story messier and distracting from the best part (Cruise being Digger), yeah I can see why it would be divisive. Hell the shovel is in like, 2 minutes near the opening? Half the shots in the trailer where he has the shovel are just missing entirely. As entertainment, the movie fails by actively removing itself from the most entertaining part, Digger himself. That’s how I felt personally

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u/PSB23102001 17h ago

I can understand that if the twist was a little too early and some ppl got put off with that, but I cannot understand the hate, it's almost manufactured as if they don't want to admit that the movie manages to not lose its grip. The EU court scene itself is worth the price of admission, a birdman like long take with a tom cruise so good that you realise why he has been in the industry for so long, it's like the bold risk taking cruise before the MI slop. I dug (yes ik) the movie, it's worth watching!

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u/muffs92 15h ago

Hey now, MI is possibly the greatest slop there could ever be.

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u/Battle-Individual 1d ago

Just watched it.Its strange and weird but I wait until the end and it does all come together in the end.the movie is funny and there's some really great performances but boy does it get a point across.one of the better movies this year

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u/LengthinessWhich9099 1d ago

Cruise is more off-putting now that I've learned so much about Scientology and seeing him in stuff makes me less interested in watching it. I know many celebrities are members of Scientology but I treat it similarly to seeing a MAGA celeb in something.

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u/cmeyer49er 1d ago

I saw previews and thought it was overtly blatant that Cruise is shooting his shot for his elusive Oscar. Just seemed like a vanity award grab project.

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u/Few_Butterscotch_832 1d ago

It does take some very big swings and gets into the crust of it in a way which is a little too much into the film. But still, it was an amazingly immersive experience.

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u/Count-Bulky 1d ago

People get mad at things they can’t understand

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u/Skrawnatawny 1d ago

Haven't seen it, but the promo stuff reminds me of Marty Supreme. (Bragging about the main actor's talent and suggesting the character is an asshole) I left MS thinking it was over hyped and it under delivered. I probably won't see this in theaters.

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u/loanharassment 1d ago

The fact that the movie is about climate change, and specifically how a few greedy capitalists knowingly made it happen for their own profit, seems to have pissed off some people enough to fund a massive online hate campaign against it. It’s a polarizing and flawed movie but the zealous and permeating hate this movie is getting is def not normal, seems astroturfed. Other than that it has an unusual structure and might scare off casual filmgoers.

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u/CurrencyOk1618 1d ago

Will Tom cruise playing a caricature of himself last for a two hour movie or be funny for about five minutes?

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u/Busy-Caregiver-7087 1d ago

The look of the film is lavish and unique

Tom Cruise, as he always does, gives it his all.

The rest of the cast is very uneven, most seem like they don't quite know what they are doing with their character or are struggling so they just go over-the-top with everything, though I think the script and director share the blame equally for that.

While there's some amusement in the big ideas that are on display, I found most of the movie pretty unfunny. Certain scenes, like the Situation Room reaction to the first big disaster, is cringe worthy. Like improv class cringe. Dr Strangelove this is certainly not.

I guess I can give Inarritu credit for making a satire about late stage capitalism while at the same time getting the studio to flush $200 million down the toilet - how ironic - but I just don't really go for these kinds of sophomoric socio-commentaries.

So, mostly well crafted but not at funny as it should be.

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u/astralnautical 1d ago

*this would be better if he did this that a director could’ve done that the producers didn’t that everybody else is a count”

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u/TheLyleCut 1d ago

People don’t like forming educated opinions themselves and instead look to what sentiment the first winds bring.

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u/Aggravating-Diet-663 1d ago

All this negative reception, while I still dont even have the slightly clue about what this movie is even about....It just makes me want to buy a ticket now😄

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u/Normal_Pace7374 1d ago

That make up is divisive from the outset 

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u/fantonledzepp 1d ago

Iñárritu makes some films that make sense; this movie didn’t make sense in trailers.

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u/venturi4000 1d ago

Digger stuck with me long after it ended. The trailers kept the twists under wraps, and I think that's why some people are mad about it. It's a silly, satirical take on a pretty grim reality, and it works.

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u/DoctorNo1661 1d ago

It's purposely sold as a comedy because the whole point of the movie rests on the viewer believing he's watching a comedy (or satire or whatever you wanna call it). From a narrative standpoint at least.

So people who go see it expect a comedy. Or political satire or whatever.

It's actually something completely different but for some reason I most honestly cannot understand, instead of reassessing what the movie actually is, people would rather shit on what they deem to be a not really funny comedy.

There's something deeply ironic in all this. I'm not really fond of meta communication stunts like these tbh but I'm a bit sad the movie's reception is so bad when what it does (and how it does it : what a magnificent mise en scene holy shit) is so bold and dare I say quite apropos. Great mise en abime as well which is very hard to pull out usually.

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u/DGopinion 1d ago

I haven’t seen it yet but weird movies always are

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u/Murky-Echidna-3519 1d ago

Because no one knows WTH it’s about?

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u/Any-Tutor9116 1d ago

Because it’s ass

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u/AnyResponsibility298 1d ago

The tom cruise character was funny but the movie itself was pretty boring.

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u/Rawcrates 1d ago

It's not. Just very aggressive movie promotion trying to stir up controversy.

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u/huntforhire 1d ago

It was built to be divisive

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u/ekinria1928 1d ago

I don't care about "masterpiece" or "genius" or even "box office bomb"... They're just words that have been overused and have zero meaning to me anymore. IMO, I hope Digger is entertaining and interesting and fun. I'm going to draw my own conclusions...

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u/Bob_Obloooog 1d ago

I think it might be like Edge of Tomorrow. Under rated when it's released and well liked after a few years.

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u/Main_Clue_9531 1d ago

I don't know if other people think this, but for a film shot on vistavision, it looks like digital log footage

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u/DimChuc 1d ago

It's marketing. They need to describe it as SOMETHING and they can't describe it as "good".

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u/Murky-Speech2128 1d ago

Just saw it. It's fantastic.

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u/Alternative_Tip_8756 1d ago

It seems like an A24 artsy movie with too large of a budget

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u/Top-Impression8021 1d ago

Go see it. It’s worth thinking about for your own self.

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u/farquin_helle 1d ago

Botvertising

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u/No-Warthog7520 1d ago

I think the “Worst Movie Ever” and “Best Movie Ever” reviews are both part of the studio’s marketing campaign. Make people pay money to go and see for themselves if it really does suck. They are playing into the hands of the people who want to see Tom Cruise fail.

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u/TJCW 1d ago

Don’t care for the ads being shoved down our throat.

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u/Wackdiesel 1d ago

'Cause people are dicks

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u/Wackdiesel 1d ago

It is a movie. ...all are not going to like it. If you don't move on instead of making "content" to show your hatred for it.....breath people....

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u/CheesyCousCous 1d ago

It looks cringe af

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u/Futants_ 1d ago

Because it's Tom Cruise in an odd and divisive role with a movie that looks like it fits better in early 90s to mid 00's?

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u/Exotic-Protection729 1d ago

I saw it and basically it’s a hard movie to market, it’s a shame because it’s a fun theatrical experience, it’s gonna bomb but I think people will appreciate it in retrospect. It’s a piece of art i encourage people to see it

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u/i_need_about_tree_50 23h ago

Just saw it, first 30 mins I wasn't feeling the movie, 30-60 mins ok maybe its making some sense and pace picks up, last hour mainly last 30 mins, it comes together nicely. Its almost like impressionism in movie form. Didnt love it but I enjoyed watching it comes together and I think it was rather good and loved that it felt different but not just for the sake of being different. The method made sense.

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u/NeonFireFly969 23h ago

Extremely misleading trailer. But it's awesome.

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u/Gehrschrein 22h ago

Because it's self-indulgent and a bit too far up its own orifice. 

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u/Chonky_D_Floofy 22h ago

Surprisingly not a lot of people want pay to watch a movie when they have no idea what it’s about.

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u/breedknight 22h ago

He overcooks his performance on this one, a little bit more. It's exaggerated.

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u/NotumRobotics 21h ago

How is Steve Buscemi not in this?

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u/KurtBarlo 21h ago

Because it subverts your expectations

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u/jlwilcoxus 20h ago

I think I really, really... possibly love this movie... or... I hate it... but no... I certainly don't hate it... or do I... No, I LOVE it... but, do I?

I'm not sure how I feel about this movie, but every single actor in it deserves all the awards. Of that, I am sure.

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u/Batman2150 19h ago edited 19h ago

I got the vibes of Oscar bait from it. Like Tom was going all in to win his Oscar. And he got a mate to make a film for him where he could put a ton of makeup and fat suits on and overreact for his Oscar. That and the trailers in general just sucked for the film. A trailers job is to get you excited to watch a film. For digger after watching the trailer I had zero desire to see it. And the trailers from what I know now do a terrible job of even properly selling the vibe of the film correctly

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u/ultrasilverginger 19h ago

Because some people find Tom Cruise to be pompous and insufferable even without factoring in his cult. The story of his timing the makeup people to bring down the time of his transformation from six hours to one is a perfect example. And I’d be surprised if there’s no running scene in the film since Tom seems to need to run a marathon in every movie. Or maybe Digger just hangs out of a plane so Tim can do his own stunts.

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u/United-Palpitation28 18h ago

I can understand if you think the movie is preachy or pretentious or if the twist doesn’t work for you, or (like me) you felt the twist happened too soon in the story.

But what I don’t get are the people criticizing Tom Cruise’s performance. He was terrific- his Digger was ridiculously over the top, and his Curtis was much more subtle and subdued. I thought he did a fantastic job

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u/Murky_Historian8675 18h ago

I mean... Just look at it. What is it supposed to be?

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u/Puzzleheaded-Mix5848 18h ago

It's marketed one way, but the movie is totally different plot and character wise

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u/reader4567890 18h ago

Haven't seen it yet, but other than the name and the fact it's got Cruise and Plemons in it, I still have zero idea wtf it's about.

I'll watch when it comes to streaming - anything with Plemons in it is usually decent.

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u/ulrichmusil 18h ago

Because it just wasn’t very funny. The movie officially disappeared up Iñaritu’s ass with its precious pacing. A couple of fun moments and even performances do not save this movie from its director

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u/Dependent-Tone-7783 17h ago

Having Jesse And Plemons in your film will do that.

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u/IWishIHavent 17h ago

Has a Iñárrity ever been non-divisive? I believe the most mainstream movie he ever did was The Revenant.

I still remember the same thing happened to Birdman, and right after I left theaters. I thought it was great, and people were commenting while we were leaving how it was a piece of crap. The point being: some people - especially in North America - are too used to spood-fed stories that don't require contemplation. I haven't seen the movie yet - planning on doing it today - but I would guess that is the case.

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u/RogSlayer67 17h ago

It’s cause of the hard r

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u/LobsterResponsible17 17h ago

Seems corporate wallstreet types are the ones hating on the movie and Tom. Seen a couple articles where they were piling on Tom for the character he was playing. You morons realize he's playing a character right ?

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u/abdallha-smith 17h ago

I feel like it's being slandered by the higher ups for being anti establishment in wake of the merger

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u/Rude_Reality_9690 16h ago

Im actually very much feeling the inverse of all the frustrated posts ive read about the film. I thought this was a great, fun movie and I think more people would if there weren’t a million posts and comments (a lot from people who haven’t seen it?) saying either it sucks or don’t see it. Perhaps I have no stakes in the marketing because I use my theaters membership and see everything regardless.

The acting from everyone was solid and the grandiose manufactured drama worked really well for me. Everything was amplified by 1000 for the effects of the “surprise,” I thought the music and sets were quite special here because of how playful and off-kilter they were. Yes, even the cat who somehow looked real and fake at the same time.

Similarly to the substance, this isn’t a perfect movie or my favorite by any means, but it had all the components of what a great film is and was wildly entertaining- that’s really all that matters to me when I watch something

I’m not trying to campaign for digger, or to encourage people to like it, but go see it if you haven’t.

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u/eggflip1020 16h ago

I thought it was okay. I don’t know that blind siding the audience is necessarily the right move but hey lol

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u/puritanner 15h ago

Movies suffer from netflix syndrome but not in a way that you'd naively think.

Emotional investment into a story and a character is built up over hours and hours of story exposition.
Moving that intensity to movies limited to a few hours of runtime is inherently difficult.

We literally dull our senses by overstimulating and overconsuming days worth of cineastic content.

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u/DELETE_RAW 15h ago

Am I the only one who watched the trailer and could tell what the movie was about? Seemed pretty obvious and the outrage is manufactured.