r/mildlyinfuriating • • 8h ago

Ruined by Technology When we’re not looking, Alexa displays the wrong time. I finally caught her on video.

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u/TSM- YELLOW 7h ago

Bug or oversight. It is not updating the time when it is in sleep mode but the screen is still on. Perhaps sleep mode stops it from adjusting the display time value because the screen used to be off. Then they decided they wanted to keep the screen on to show it was still powered or to show some wallpaper or something, and someone didn't notice that this would sometimes show the clock and not update it.

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u/mashmaker86 7h ago

This sounds like a legitimate bug to me. Adhoc, but valid. No tester would allow that to pass.

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u/JunkyardTornado 7h ago

Tester wont pass it? Maybe. Management tells them to push? Likely

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u/Ok-Detective-8903 7h ago

Nah, "LLM slop reviewer" writes LGTM and sends it off.

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u/NeverTriedFondue 6h ago

Let's Gamble, Try Merging?

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u/Ok-Detective-8903 6h ago

Ha! I like that

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u/NathanSMB 7h ago

No tester would allow that to pass.

When it comes to time issues a lot of things get overlooked. I'm a software engineer. QA have found plenty of bugs I have missed and I appreciate the fuck out of them. I also could totally see this passing QA by accident.

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u/mashmaker86 7h ago

Yeah I'm QA. I miss things all the time. I would get into trouble for missing something like this. Not fired, but it would come up for sure.

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u/NathanSMB 7h ago

I mean yeah, but at least where I work it would come up in a retrospective. Like hey we had this problem how do we make sure it doesn't happen in the future. Come up with an actionable plan. Move on. It wouldn't come up in a performance review unless it was a repetitive problem.

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u/mashmaker86 6h ago

Fortunately I'm a contractor so I'll never get a performance review. I could be laid off at any moment, but hey, every day is a gift!

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u/drawkbox 7h ago edited 7h ago

Most likely by design to save power for when users are in the vicinity. Very common flow for low power and processing capable hardware.

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u/Saucermote 7h ago

But makes it completely useless as a clock you might want to look at when you wake up in the middle of the night and want to know how many more hours of sleep you can have.

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u/drawkbox 6h ago

True but it probably is able to wake up on any movement.

Alexa has motion sensors and the only reason the dude saw this was the sneaking in the door out of range. Inside the room it probably never shows this.

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u/Saucermote 6h ago

Would it detect someone on the other side of the room, hidden almost entirely under covers, in the dark, only poking their head up to look at the clock?

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u/drawkbox 6h ago

Alexa has computer vision Camera-Based Detection and audio Ultrasound-Based Detection so probably but yeah there might be a gap there.

Computer vision in the dark usually is dampened for noise so it could miss small movements.

Ultrasound detection uses doppler so it could also miss if the person moved really, really slow.

The clock still works in that state and alarms would go off, the screen is the battery/power/processor drain so even if it was dimmed or wrong it would update on events.

But there might be a gap where if you were super still and made no sound and opened your eyes slow that it wouldn't pick it up and if the placeholder screen has a time you'd see it wrong. Then you'd move your head in disbelief it is 7:00 and it would change.

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u/Aromatic_Pack948 1h ago

I don’t buy this excuse! This is poor programming. The screen could still have a once a minute update in sleep mode that would barely use any more power than showing the static last time before it slept! Also, I don’t think this is a battery only powered device. Yes it is still good to save power with a sleep mode, but a once a minute refresh would barely register!

Heck, my battery powered Apple Watch can manage to have the screen on full time and do a 1 hz refresh for 24 hr with its tiny battery!

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u/drawkbox 1h ago

It might even be that, the dude popped in on it in a short time and it looks like a kiosk style screensaver/background that has a static time just for like store display or the box. It could be bad programming or that but preserving power and heat is actually good programming when it comes to embedded.

Every screen on Apple caches the last version and when you re-open it it shows moments later. They are a bit smarter about this though for sure.

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u/TSM- YELLOW 6h ago

I suppose OP would know, but 7:00 exactly seems likely to be a placeholder value rather than coincidentally being the exact offset from its last updated time. Someone didn't change the variable from the placeholder in that part of the code and it went live.

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u/drawkbox 1h ago

Yeah definitely seems like a placeholder or screen shot for a kiosk display or something. For it to be exactly 7:00 it seems likely.

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u/mashmaker86 7h ago

Low power settings are common, but they are not supposed to display misleading information.

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u/drawkbox 6h ago

True. As others mentioned, probably a screensaver or static page it switches to. Definitely seems like placeholder.

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u/StephenFish 5h ago

No one is doing testing anymore -- everything is AI and AI is stupid.

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u/theflanman 5h ago

The majority of Amazon software doesn't have dedicated testers, devs have to handle it.

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u/gadda4 1h ago

Maybe no tester did ever sneak up to it.

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u/DouchecraftCarrier 5h ago

My Google Home display does the same thing. I have a basement office so I will keep my front window camera streaming to it for long periods of time and most of the time when I turn the stream off what comes up for a moment right after is the clock from when I turned it on several hours ago.

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u/FierceDeity_ 3h ago

Even the always on display on Android phones doesn't have that kind of bug, and those devices are on battery. Damn, Amazon. Good job. lol

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u/mashmaker86 7h ago

I'm not defending Amazon, I'm accusing them of a software defect.

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u/TSM- YELLOW 6h ago

Just to be sure, that was not me. Also want to say, saying "they made a mistake, here is how it might have happened" isn't defending them.

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u/mashmaker86 6h ago

Oh they're accusing me of being you? Wait no I'm still confused. It's only mildly entertaining to figure out what TheGloomyWoodpecker is on about. Unfortunately their account is private so there is a high likelihood of it being a bot.

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u/MechanicalSideburns 5h ago

Lol, this whole comment chain reads as one guy rapid-fire switching back and forth between accounts. Like, how would you have even known about TSM's comment above this one? You weren't tagged, and it wasn't in response to one of yours. You should have just deleted the first comment and moved on.

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u/mashmaker86 4h ago

I acknowledged the mistake, apologized, and moved on. Deleting comments corrupts my history.

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u/TSM- YELLOW 6h ago edited 2h ago

Looking at the chain of replies, it looks like what you said could have been me.

edit: This is was a screenshot. This is why whatever is going nuts is happening and I will look at the comments tomorrow for some funny replies or if it spirals into a huge argument.

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u/mashmaker86 6h ago

Oh my god it was I who responded to the wrong comment and started this downward spiral! My apologies to all.

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u/TSM- YELLOW 2h ago

Haha, it happens, I found it funny.

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u/mashmaker86 6h ago

Does something about my account seem inauthentic? Sorry are we fighting? If I offended you, I apologize. It was not my intention. It's possible you accidentally responded to the wrong comment.

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u/mashmaker86 6h ago

Wait I thought that's how public comments worked. I didn't realize that was considered a private conversation.

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u/mashmaker86 6h ago

Woops I think you're right! I mean nobody here is defending Amazon, but I believe I mistook your comment as a reply to mine.