I guess I just consider them to be the same mode, but you are probably technically correct. Sleep mode on some things puts them in a low power standby mode and is used as a misnomer so I would consider this to be that kinda thing where it goes idle and doesn't update until woken back up.
It's not a screensaver, dipshit. It goes into sleep mode after a short time of not being used and the screen stays on whatever was displayed at the time. When OP spoke to it and woke it up, it came out of sleep mode and the time was on the screen.
How did you two manage to escalate this entirely inncouous comment chain so quickly lmao, whether or not a stranger's clock uses a screensaver is not this serious
Probably because I'm giving perfectly reasonable, rational, and actual responses as to why it happened. But everyone want to read more into it than what it is like we're on the verge of being taken over by Alexa and they just can't let it go.
did...did anyone say that? I think it was just mostly people thinking it's weird. not that it was an apocalypse indicator.
Also, going to sleep in dark mode to preserve the screen is what we call a screen saver. Just because it's not a pipe maze or an anime girl fucking doesn't mean it isn't a screen saver. a sleep mode screen is still to save the screen.
but why not just turn off the fkn display to save power? if it's not even showing the time, this is just stupid and wasteful.
but sometimes i forget programmers nowadays are just fkn incomptent morons and care not about saving power or making things efficient, likely because management is a bunch of fkn idiots trying to squeeze the life out of everyone with ridiculous timelines and enshitifying products.. i fkn hate it here in the tech world
Bug or oversight. It is not updating the time when it is in sleep mode but the screen is still on. Perhaps sleep mode stops it from adjusting the display time value because the screen used to be off. Then they decided they wanted to keep the screen on to show it was still powered or to show some wallpaper or something, and someone didn't notice that this would sometimes show the clock and not update it.
When it comes to time issues a lot of things get overlooked. I'm a software engineer. QA have found plenty of bugs I have missed and I appreciate the fuck out of them. I also could totally see this passing QA by accident.
I mean yeah, but at least where I work it would come up in a retrospective. Like hey we had this problem how do we make sure it doesn't happen in the future. Come up with an actionable plan. Move on. It wouldn't come up in a performance review unless it was a repetitive problem.
But makes it completely useless as a clock you might want to look at when you wake up in the middle of the night and want to know how many more hours of sleep you can have.
True but it probably is able to wake up on any movement.
Alexa has motion sensors and the only reason the dude saw this was the sneaking in the door out of range. Inside the room it probably never shows this.
Would it detect someone on the other side of the room, hidden almost entirely under covers, in the dark, only poking their head up to look at the clock?
Alexa has computer vision Camera-Based Detection and audio Ultrasound-Based Detection so probably but yeah there might be a gap there.
Computer vision in the dark usually is dampened for noise so it could miss small movements.
Ultrasound detection uses doppler so it could also miss if the person moved really, really slow.
The clock still works in that state and alarms would go off, the screen is the battery/power/processor drain so even if it was dimmed or wrong it would update on events.
But there might be a gap where if you were super still and made no sound and opened your eyes slow that it wouldn't pick it up and if the placeholder screen has a time you'd see it wrong. Then you'd move your head in disbelief it is 7:00 and it would change.
I suppose OP would know, but 7:00 exactly seems likely to be a placeholder value rather than coincidentally being the exact offset from its last updated time. Someone didn't change the variable from the placeholder in that part of the code and it went live.
My Google Home display does the same thing. I have a basement office so I will keep my front window camera streaming to it for long periods of time and most of the time when I turn the stream off what comes up for a moment right after is the clock from when I turned it on several hours ago.
Oh they're accusing me of being you? Wait no I'm still confused. It's only mildly entertaining to figure out what TheGloomyWoodpecker is on about. Unfortunately their account is private so there is a high likelihood of it being a bot.
Lol, this whole comment chain reads as one guy rapid-fire switching back and forth between accounts. Like, how would you have even known about TSM's comment above this one? You weren't tagged, and it wasn't in response to one of yours. You should have just deleted the first comment and moved on.
Looking at the chain of replies, it looks like what you said could have been me.
edit: This is was a screenshot. This is why whatever is going nuts is happening and I will look at the comments tomorrow for some funny replies or if it spirals into a huge argument.
Does something about my account seem inauthentic? Sorry are we fighting? If I offended you, I apologize. It was not my intention. It's possible you accidentally responded to the wrong comment.
I use to have the windows screensaver ‘bubbles’ which fucked me like this. You can still see the screen’s clock but it stays at time screen saver started
because its all one big simulation, nothing actually exists outside your view and only renders as you move just like a video game. the sim tries to conserve energy when it can. of course im just kidding
I feel like default screensavers have gotten way, way worse over time.
I mean we used to have stuff like aquariums, fireplaces, etc. in the early 2000s, idk why tvs & things like this Alexa can't without jumping through hoops of downloading an
app & running it on wifi...
It’s probably the default/debug/backup screensaver that shows if there some glitch making the others unavailable, it’s probably not meant to be seen under normal conditions.
The reason that they chose to pick a random time to display is likely because an engineer asked a product person what they wanted on the backup screensaver and they said “idc whatever you want” and the engineer, to themselves, said “well I have this time template screensaver already done, I’ll just throw that in, no one will see it anyway”
I've had several flip phones over the years and when I closed them they retained that time and displayed it for a few seconds when I reopened them. Probably part of the power saving.
oleds do benefit from burn in protection again, but you might as well just turn them off completely when not in use, so screensavers still aren't useful
oleds kinda do, samsung actually has a feature (im sure other brands as well) where the items in the top menu bar always move around a couple pixels in the x and y to prevent burn in
Yes, most OLED monitors have a pixel-shift feature and other similar tools to fight the burn in.
Some also run an automatic pixel cleaning program (others require you to activate it manually but I’m pretty sure every OLED monitor has that feature built in nowadays) when the monitor is turned off or falls asleep and higher end OLED monitors even have some sort of detection where they’ll detect static UI elements (taskbar, minimap on some video games,…) and they will shift the colors slightly or have the pixel shift stronger in those areas.
CRTs can suffer a thing called "burn in" where if a static image is left for a long period it can permanently burn that image onto the screen. Screen savers were devised so that there is always a moving image being drawn to the display to circumvent the possibility of burn in. Modern displays aren't susceptible to burn in so screen savers have mostly fallen out of use. Plus energy saving considerations just put everything to sleep on fairly short intervals.
I have a friend who does not like when his phone screen goes to sleep during a call. He probably turned sleep off because every single phone he has ever owned has had the call screen burned in.
Just take a look at any old arcade game with a CRT when it's powered off. You can still see the title screen burned in. I worked in an arcade for a few years repairing and setting up game cabinets. Our workshop where we kept spare parts had some leftover CRTs from decommissioned cabinets and I always knew what game they came from.
We should bring back screensavers imo, I know it's a bad use of electricity but we're doing data centres now so I should have like, Microsoft's old aquarium thing going instead of just darkness.
OLEDs are by far the best vs screen burn-in. However the real reason screen savers even exist is CRT monitors. Tubes have a much worse burn in rate than LCD panels.
My thought was it just doesn't bother to update the display until it thinks there's someone in the room. If OP left for work at 7 and just got home would easily explain the two times listed.
my first thought too, but then look at the date, it says the right date, Saturday October 4th. If it was a screensaver, it could have any random date, for it to have specifically this date is waaaay too much of a coincidence.
There must be some weird glitch going on that makes the clock on sleep mode not be up to date
I bought one and can’t figure out anything it does. So, I believe so.
Editing to add: I realize you are referring to only the feature displayed here, but I wanted to express my dissatisfaction with whatever these devices are supposed to do.
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u/Pumpkin_Cheap 8h ago
Am I the only asshole thinking its just a screensaver made to look like a clock?