The way I read it, it says "no parking between signs" meaning no parking between the signs like any time.. then below it on a second sign it reads "No Parking TUESDAY 2AM-7AM DEC 1-MAR 1".. because if you notice, only the one sign says anything about a time period.
The first sign, as far as the direction of travel is concerned, is enough. The municipality likely didn't buy a sign with the size required to accommodate all of the text together.
Super weird enlarging the image to see if I can figure out what state this is in, and then realize I know where it is and live a quarter mile from there.
In a sense you might be; the street is presumably named after Cretin Hall, a Saint Thomas building on it, itself named after Joseph CrĂŠtin. It's not referencing the term "Cretin"
That accent does a lot of heavy lifting because my first thought was thatâs a crazy name for a street đ but that definitely makes sense thatâs named after somebody
Yeah sure parking where you arenât suppsed to isnât good, but calling the fascist just makes you look like a Redditor mod escaping from their basement
Itâs an old ass Tesla, they prolly had it for a while already
Exactly right. Typical Reddit morons not understanding what they see vs what the equally slow OP says.
The sign says between 2am and 7am, Tuesdayâs December 1 to March 1, this looks to be outside that window being no snowplows required in fucking summer/fall.
Also, was dog mode enabled which keeps the cabin cool automatically? This doesnât seem to be the problem OP thinks it is and not enough details were provided for the amount of ragebait people clutching their pearls hoped for. Correct me if Iâm wrong here but this screams nothing burger. Sounds like OP was exactly who those bumper stickers were about, and OP just self-owned. đđ¤Śđ˝ââď¸
These signs could really be interpreted so many different ways they need to just scrap them.
It makes 0 sense to be allowed to block that sidewalk every hour of the day except for 2-7am on Tuesdays in the winter.
I interpret them as 2 different rules: "no parking between the signs (always)" AND "No parking Tuesday 2AM-7AM Dec 1 - March 1 (for the rest of the street because of plowing)"
How do I know for plowing? Because the 2nd set of signs says that, which ALSO doesn't make sense because why tf would a snow plow only plow between 2 signs? Why doesn't the first set of signs say that? Shitty sign planning.
Other context given in the comments clarifies that the entire length of the street has the "no parking Tuesdays" signs. These two posts specifically also have the "no parking between these" signs. So with that info, it can be deduced that the area between the signs is always off limits.
I think it's no parking every Tuesday from 2am - 7am all year, due to trash collection, and then December 1 - March 1, due to plowing. I interpreted them as separate statements.
Why are they collecting garbage in the middle of the night? I thought that the 2-7 was for plowing the roads before people have to drive on them, and then Tuesdays in general because of long hours for trash collection.
Yeah, that makes more sense. The signs are not written well at all. Four different people reading them could each have their own justified interpretations.
Itâs not for the plow or it would be like that the whole street and more than just Tuesday.
Someone else in the thread reverse searched and researched and found that this street gets garbage service on Tuesday. And that building has rolling bins they put on an arm on the side that dumps it. This lets them service the customers.
No but with the snow build up that little side walk is where they park the arm and wheel the bins to. They can go through the grass the rest of the year.
I agree that the signs are a little confusing, but the way to correctly interpret them is separately:
No parking Tuesday 2-7 am (presumably both before and after the sign) and 2.
No parking (period) between signs.
Edit: I donât know whatâs wrong with Redditâs formatting. Iâve tried re-writing this comment several times with different punctuation and itâs just garbled. Sorry
Checked it (using super creepy AI locating tools, so I'm going to hell, but I needed to resolve an Internet debate).
This is probably from St. Paul, Minnesota. Their public works sanitation service has hours and months matching the service. The small pathway is to roll garbage bins back and forth to the garbage truck that uses that spot in posted hours. The spot is illegal to park in during the hours that the trucks use that spot (posted), but is legal to park in otherwise.
The Tesla is parked legally. The original poster did not notice or did not understand the signs. Sorry to anyone who got invested in this argument.
2210 Marshall Ave, St. Paul MN. These signs are directly in front of an apartment building. I assume that space is supposed to be kept clear for picking up and dropping off people, mail carriers delivering mail, that kind of stuff.
Hereâs the same spot on google street view and it looks like people do understand that they should not park in between the signs. Yall just being obtuse. The signs a clear enough.
The intersection is Marshall/Cretin. I don't know what the TF you are talking about, but the Tesla is not parked legally. Garbage trucks use the alleys in Saint Paul. Did AI tell you that thing you just confidently stated about garbage bins?
Edit to add; while I don't know the specifics here, those signs are often placed where people with mobility issues live so they can on/offboard Metro Mobility shuttles.
But yes, the all-year-round parking restriction is very unclear when the sign is paired with the seasonal parking restriction. There needs to be a better way to represent those parking restrictions.
It says âTuesday 2AM - 7AM Dec 1 Mar 1â
I guess those are 3 different times youre supposed to not park there. Also theres like 4 signs there saying different things. That shits confusing as hell.
Thereâs also the white line indicating where the parking area is. If they donât want folks to park between the signs then it should be yellow with diagonal lines through it
If you took the photo, you know it's a snow plow zone on Marshall that has a No Parking start sign. So every car in your photo is illegally parked up to Cretin because they are all parked after this sign?
If there's this much debate in the comments about it then the conduct prohibited is clearly not defined well enough for most reasonable people to understand
Itâs hard to understand tbh. Is it no parking and then clarifying the hours and days or is it no parking always and then the other sign wouldnât be needed.
Honestly which one. Who knows. Who cares. Parking is a scam.
I kinda like it cuz we do need critical thinking, like how the placement of these signs make no sense and serve what purpose? Maybe they parked there as a statement đ.
This is not a new Model 3, so not fair to call them Fascists. Personally, Iâd get rid of the car, but not everyone is in the situation where they can do that easily. And the car has a dog mode, so are you sure it wasnât left in dog mode? And as so many others have said, they are not parked illegally.
Honestly they could keep it just because how many other vehicles have something similar to dog mode? If they use it often thatâs reason enough to keep an old (probably) paid off carÂ
The number of comments in here mocking OP for not being able to read when it's the commenters themselves who've failed to comprehend all the signs is hilarious.
"No Parking Between the Signs" has no date or time restrictions.
"No Parking [Tuesdays, etc.]" refers to the entire block being a "Night Plow Route" from December to March.
The car is parked illegally between the two "No Parking Between the Signs" signs.
Honestly Iâm more upset with calling the owner of the Tesla a fascist. Their stickers clearly emphasize they hate Elon and they supported Harris. Reddit so quick to forget how much they pushed electric cars, and Tesla in general, pre-Elon Trump days.
All of the confusion could have been avoided if the city just put âany timeâ at the bottom of the no parking signs. And marking the pavement would be smart too.
Technically it dosent say do not park between no parking signs, just says signs. And there are clearly signs past it and before it. So why even have parking there if you cant park there?
"no parking between signs" always come in pairs. it means in between the two of them, and it is not paired with the other signs. those two signs are specifically to not block the sidewalk that you can see, is blocked, in the picture.
No parking 2-7am, Dec1-Mar1 for nighttime snow plowing. Otherwise it's 1Hr parking 9-4pm. The Tesla has Dog Mode to keep the AC on for pets. All cars pictured are parked legally.
Even if what you say is true (which it isn't) it doesn't justify the OP's post. Any ticket could be legitimately contested and voided. But they won't because the purpose of the signs is to leave a clear path near Cretin for snow plowing curb to curb.
If they willingly spent money on a Tesla, they have plenty of money and they don't know what to do with it.
He more than likely has some kind high paying braindead job to fit his braindead lifestyle, like a trash collector. Or upper management in [insert any corporation here].
Were you born after the pandemic??? You dont remember when teslas were just the first electric car that was hip?? The car that let you help the environment and look sexy.
The sign says between 2am and 7am, Tuesdayâs December 1 to March 1, this looks to be outside that window being no snowplows required in fucking summer/fall.
Also, was dog mode enabled which keeps the cabin cool automatically? This doesnât seem to be the problem OP thinks it is and not enough details were provided for the amount of ragebait people clutching their pearls hoped for. Correct me if Iâm wrong here but this screams nothing burger. Sounds like OP was exactly who those bumper stickers were about, and OP just self-owned. đđ¤Śđ˝ââď¸
They arenât just plowing between the signs. They are trying to prevent gaps that later turn into people slipping down the ramps or into the street uncontrollably, which are the most-used parts of crossing locations. When I lived in Vermont, fines were literally 3x for parking at ramps on a plow day than the shear curbs like this one.
I have a neighbor with a "think, it's not illegal(yet)" sticker on their Tesla. The charging cable is always coiled when their car is plugged in. Not much thinking there.
Also, as much as I dislike Teslas, they still have the best and only proper dog mode for their vehicles.
That's not always financially viable. If the owner of Hyundai suddenly came out as a fascist dictator, I'm not just going to sell my fully paid, low mileage, 3 year old car for a loss, and then take out a high interest loan to cover upgrading to something else. That would just be financially stupid.
My friends are very anti-Elon, but they bought their teslas well before. Absolutely no reason for them to sell the car they paid off and get into debt to get a new vehicle that will cost them a ton of money just to prove a point. Their Teslas are already paid off no one is making money off of them
Because the way the signs are laid out makes zero sense.
You can't combine a sign that covers a short distance with a sign that covers the entire road on the same pole and expect it to be interpreted that way. The scope of the sign that has the times on it is ambiguous. If you don't believe me, read the rest of the comments.
Having said that, I suppose a driver handbook probably explains the scope of no parking signs. The issue is that, unless you spend a lot of time in areas where parking is restricted, those rules are not widely known.
As an example, I rarely go downtown (which is where this stupidity is widely used), and if I do I avoid parking on the street because the signs are so unintuitive. Talking to other people that regularly spend time downtown, they think I'm silly and that the signs are quite clear.
i hear you, but the fact that they are separate signs instead of one larger sign is how you know they are independent of each other, except when stated otherwise.
I can't quite read the signs but it seems like they are saying no parking there during certain periods of time? And if you took this then it's not between December and March so?
Why is it so hard for this comment section to understand that the âno parking between signsâ is separate from the additional no parking sign. Critical thinking really is needed here.
Because the sign is dumb as fuck and confusing for no reason there is a reason why civilized countries invented better signs and hear me on this one, fucking road marking to show the zones where it's always forbidden to park. Crazy I know.
1: Parking is only restricted based on time and day
2: Teslas are capable of remaining locked and maintaining appropriate temperatures for a pet left in the vehicle.
I would bet a lot of money that this photo was not taken between 2 and 7 AM, between Dec 1 and March 1. Stop calling people fascists when the truth is that itâs your literacy issue at play here.
K but how are you going to assume someone with a âanti-elonâŚâ sticker is a fascist? I mean, by all means, I love watching the left eat their own, but⌠why?
Are these signs related to "no parking between signs"?
(I don't know in your country, in mine if two signs are on the same pole, they are related each other, like a speed limit + highway exit meaning that limit only applies for people taking that exit, for example).
Also, I havenât read the thread but it it hasnât already been mentioned, thereâs absolutely no problem with leaving a dog in a Tesla, even on a hot day, as long as you leave the A/C on for him/her.
I used to see handwritten signs in the driverâs side windows saying, âPlease donât break my window again! The dogâs just fine!â
Itâs Saint Paul. In my experience, theyâll be ticketed soon. I got a ticket after being away from the car for 10 minutes for parking too far from the curb (it was winter, a low profile car and I didnât want to get it stuck in the snow)
The signage is fucking horrible. As someone who doesn't live there I have no idea what the parking rules are and would just not park there at any point. Just treating it as if it's no parking all the time would be the intelligent thing to do.
The sign says between 2am and 7am, Tuesdayâs December 1 to March 1, this looks to be outside that window being no snowplows required in fucking summer/fall.
Also, was dog mode enabled which keeps the cabin cool automatically? This doesnât seem to be the problem OP thinks it is and not enough details were provided for the amount of ragebait people clutching their pearls hoped for. Correct me if Iâm wrong here but this screams nothing burger. Sounds like OP was exactly who those bumper stickers were about, and OP just self-owned. đđ¤Śđ˝ââď¸
The sign says between 2am and 7am, Tuesdayâs December 1 to March 1, this looks to be outside that window being no snowplows required in fucking summer/fall.
Also, was dog mode enabled which keeps the cabin cool automatically? This doesnât seem to be the problem OP thinks it is and not enough details were provided for the amount of ragebait people clutching their pearls hoped for. Correct me if Iâm wrong here but this screams nothing burger. Sounds like OP was exactly who those bumper stickers were about, and OP just self-owned. đđ¤Śđ˝ââď¸
Teslas have something called dog mode so leaving the dog in the car is fine. Itâs temp controlled and the app will show the interior camera to keep an eye on pets
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I mean, theyâre not wrong. We do need critical thinking and theyâre showing us why