r/mildlyinfuriating • u/Desperate_Vanilla808 • 13h ago
Infuriatig Hotel staff in Thailand receives S$3.80 tip after returning S$3,800 lost cash to French tourist
https://mustsharenews.com/french-tourist-phuketFrench tourist leaves 100,000 baht in Phuket hotel, gives staff 100 baht tip after cash returned.
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u/Embrasse-moi 12h ago
Left my phone in a cab in Barcelona back in 2015 and every cab driver I talked to told me bluntly, it's lost forever. I did not stop trying!
I asked a dapper looking guy outside our restaurant to try giving my phone a ring(he probably paid the international fee since my number is US) and someone picked up, the new passenger.
They were exchanging info in Catalan and next thing you know, the guy told me to wait on the corner. After like what it felt like ages, the cab showed up and the new passenger handed me back my phone.
There were so much memories in that phone, literally my photos of my whole study abroad trip were in this phone, and I'm in foreign country and don't wanna deal with getting a new phone. I gave him all the cash I had, which I think was around €50+ and was so grateful.
I personally, like to award good deeds, depending on how valuable and sentimental the lost item is. Thank goodness for that kind stranger cause now I have all my photos compiled from that trip ❤️
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u/quierocervezas 9h ago
Barcelona taxi drivers are very scummy with this - the helpline is absolutely useless. Happy it worked out, you were extremely lucky!
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u/Embrasse-moi 9h ago
Oh boy yeah I was lucky indeed. I think about that situation everytime I remember my study abroad back in 2015. A lot of very positive stories from strangers from that trip
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u/tyler21307 13h ago edited 13h ago
Was he returning it because that’s what you should do or expecting some sort of finder’s fee?
Being a good person and expecting money for doing the right thing aren’t the same thing
Don’t ever leave anything in an Uber. It’ll be a few hundred to ever see it again. That mentality shouldn’t be exported
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u/mittenkrusty 13h ago
When I was a teenager I lost my wallet with cards in, this was late 90's maybe even 2000 but I remember someone phoning in and saying they found my wallet I said thanks, can I collect it and they didn't seem very enthusiastic.
They never gave me contact details and I never got my wallet back.
This was when I was getting pocket money from parents of abour £3 a week and had less than £1 in the bank so it's not as if they could do much with my card.
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u/JiGoD BLUEWUBBALUBBADUBBDUBB 12h ago
I found a neighbors wallet outside my apartment building. Rang the bell from the lobby telling them this and they must've not understood through the intercom because they said go away. I had a key to the front door as it was my building so I go in and knock on their door. Instantly yell I told you to go away. I have a wallet with this address on the ID card.
No apology, no thanks, no words. Took it and slammed the door.
This was my neighbor and I saved their wallet from laying in the street and didn't touch cash or even look through it aside from ID card for address.
People are terrible sometimes.
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u/sailinganon 10h ago
I once saved a man’s life out at sea. At Minerva reef. Literally saved him from being lost at sea.
He was on his super super tiny dinghy and his engine wouldn’t start and it was getting dark and he was going out with the 20kt winds out the gap of Minerva into the open ocean with hundreds of miles to nearest land.I had the only boat fast enough to get him (he was a mile away in fading light and was spotted only with binoculars).
I got to him and I was a bit worried if I could even tow him against the wind and waves.
I towed him to his boat as it got dark. The whole time he kept trying to start his motor.
It never started.He didn’t say thanks.
Didn’t drop a bottle of rum or wine around later (we both ended up in the same place a week later).Some people…
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u/EntertainerNo4509 7h ago
I still think about the people who saved my life almost 7 years ago and I will never know their names. I often wish I could thank them.
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u/Laiko_Kairen 9h ago
I found a wallet in the bushes at my mom's apartment complex. It was her next door neighbor's son's.
I returned it to the son. After that, he would help my mom with her groceries and other small tasks.
Sometimes people are awesome.
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u/EC_TWD 9h ago
I found a wallet in a store parking lot and there was a small amount of cash, no ID, but I looked up the name on a credit card and insurance card there was someone that lived nearby with that name so I drove to the house. When they answered I asked if they’d lost a wallet and could describe it, tell me the insurance company name and what credit card and they did. I explained that I was asking because there wasn’t any ID and was handing it to him when he started yelling at me, “What did you do with my license? I just renewed my license last week, where is it?” I tossed the wallet in his bush and said, “Maybe you can find it. Or maybe just not be an asshole when someone returns something to you”
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u/DumbleForeSkin 10h ago
Same thing happened to me once except I went to really great lengths to find the person.
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u/Samwise-Gamgeesthong 12h ago
Lol, why did they bother to contact you?
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u/mittenkrusty 12h ago
I think they assumed I was an adult therefore had cash so would get a reward.
It would of cost me my entire weeks pocket money to collect it.
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u/69edleg 9h ago
My dad lost his wallet in the 90s and was picked up by a group of college-aged kids who found him in the yellow pages and rang him, he drove over to collect the wallet and they didn't expect shit in return, but my dad just opened the wallet and handed them all the bills inside because getting the other stuff back was what mattered.
They just exclaimed NICEEE beer money
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u/mittenkrusty 8h ago
Actually reminded me of my college days, the only cash machine on campus was next to the bar and I took cash out and as I barely slept that night left my wallet and cash on top of machine, at least £100 in there.
I got my wallet back as someone did hand it in, minus the cash.
I mean I would rather they took the cards as they are free to replace the cash was 2 weeks rent for me.
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u/sh1nga 11h ago edited 10h ago
One time in Toronto I realized my epi-pen had fallen out of my pocket in the back of the Uber, and we had already been dropped off.
Uber put me in touch with the driver, who refused to come back unless I gave him $40 cash. I had to go to an ATM because this dude wanted to hold my life saving medication hostage.
Edit to add some details:
He was posted up 3 blocks away to get short distance fares between the local bars/restaurants. He wouldn’t tell me where he was, otherwise I would’ve walked or Ubered to his location. He literally held my epi-pen hostage over $40. After dinner I ended up seeing him posted up 3 blocks away in a line of other Uber drivers waiting for fares.
For those of you who are so concerned about his potential loss of income and “wear and tear” from driving 3 blocks, he could’ve told me where he’d be waiting in between fares, and I could’ve picked it up from him in between his fares. Would’ve taken all of 15 minutes.
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u/Richard-Gere-Museum 10h ago
People here really defending a dude holding potentially life saving medication because he would have to drive 3 blocks. Like, y'all are just antagonistic bots right?
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u/DistinctAd3222 9h ago
Head over the the Uber Lyft and DoorDash subs and meet the worst people.
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u/rutilatus 8h ago
I used to work food delivery for a short time. My “coworkers” were one of two archetypes: either painfully patient and kind to a fault, because they, like me, were just happy to have a job.
OR they were some of the pushiest, rudest, most inexplicably entitled people I’d ever had the displeasure to work with, because they are so toxic and selfish they can’t keep any job that requires them to work with a team. There was no in between.
edit to clarify: I never worked “with” these people…I just had to be in their space as they harassed underpaid counter service workers and pushed kinder drivers like myself to the side.
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u/Canuck-In-TO 10h ago
Sorry you went through this. Some people here in Toronto are jerks and only think of themselves.
I’ve been in situations where I’ve found things here too and don’t get any thanks, but I still do it as it’s the right thing to do.
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u/BigBankHank 7h ago
I regularly find and return things that are subsequently just snatched out of my hand.
Turns out shitty people are everywhere.
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u/egnards 12h ago edited 12h ago
I get what you're saying but sometimes not getting a tip is better than getting a tip.
You can do something for the right reason [to want to make sure the money gets back to where it should go] and not expect a tip and then when you get the tip kind of roll your eyes and think. . ."why did you even bother?"
Its like if your friend asks you to help them move and you say sure, because you're a friend, and you spend all day helping your friend move heavy boxes to their new apartment and that friend hands you a $10 bill at the end of the day. . .You did it to help your friend out [and hopefully got beer and pizza out of it] and didn't value your time as anything more than friendship. . .But your friend has now valued your time/effort and they've valued it at a disgustingly low rate, below what you'd consider a "friends and family rate."
The tourist chose to value this person's time. . And they valued it at almost $0. . .and that's where it's kind of ridiculous.
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u/xboxhaxorz 10h ago
Yea i would have taken the guy who found my $3800 to a meal or something, obviously he is a decent guy for returning it, probably worth knowing more about him
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u/Electronic-Yam-69 10h ago
They should have handed $4 back to him and said "You probably need this more than I do."
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u/Chesterlespaul 11h ago
“Yeah I find your $3,500”
“Wasn’t it $3,800?”
“Well, I only found $3,500 of it”
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u/JohnGarmin 9h ago
You're not as nice as you think you are if you expect something in return.
I literally have no idea who said it, but I read that some 15 years ago and it's really stuck with me. Likewise, you just see all these insufferable knobs online recording their good deeds for Instagram clout... and the comments always seem to buy it. It's like we're in some sort of Pavlovian world now where we just expect to be rewarded for basic decency now.
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u/huangsede69 6h ago
You're a way, wayyy bigger asshole if you give someone $4 when they find your wallet with $4k. Jesus toss em $100, not crazy - they just saved you $4k at a minimum. And really, they saved your ass if you're on a foreign country.
Yall sound insufferable
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u/Pb157 11h ago
I don't think the article says anything about the hotel staff expecting something? It's just nicer to give a good tip to someone who does the right thing. Doesn't have to be hundreds but at least give something more than 3 dollars.
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u/guysams1 13h ago
What's the amount in their money? Like did he give a thousand baht?
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u/Desperate_Vanilla808 13h ago
100000 baht found, 100 baht tipped
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u/WowImOldAF 12h ago
Should've given at least $50
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u/snakeysnake_sss 10h ago
Hey you can still send the morally poor hotel worker $50, make sure to post a pic with them for proof of keeping your word😂
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u/Ok_Conflict_2525 13h ago
As a non American, what are you supposed to tip in this situation? Because I honestly don’t think it would have occurred to me to tip at all
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u/Sciencetist 12h ago
I'm Canadian. I lost my wallet with about $700 in it, and someone turned it in. I tipped them about $150. I was more than happy to just get all of my cards back.
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u/HumongousBelly 12h ago
Ii lost my wallet recently, only had 200€ inside, gave the dude 100€, because the wallet itself was worth 100€, the hours spent on cancelling cards, ordering new ones itself would’ve been more than 100€ in wages at a 20€ hourly job.
The cost for reissuing ids, permits, cards etc is also close to 100€.
Also, pics of loved ones and the pic in my id of a younger me, that shit is irreplaceable
100€ was me cheaping out on a good deed, considering he came to my house and went out of his way and drove 10km.
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u/cah125 11h ago
Maybe I’m just paranoid but I’d cancel my cards anyway. Too easy for someone to take a pic of your card info. My husband just discovered several only fans fraudulent charges on his card and he has the card in hand so someone got the card info and was able to easily input it online
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u/MediocreHope 11h ago
That's absolutely what happened! Poor guy, it happens to the best of us!......
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u/cah125 11h ago
lol I know it is. It’s his personal account. He had no reason to tell me about it at all and he was very upset about it in on the phone for 2 hours with the bank on Friday. I have no access to his personal account (nor do I need to) and would’ve never found out.
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u/justanawkwardguy you do it like this 12h ago
I think time is a better judgement for out of the way than distance. Like in a city 10km could be 1-2hrs but out in the countryside that could be 10 minutes. Either way it was nice of them and I’m sure they weren’t expecting anything in return
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u/eugeneugene 10h ago
Also Canadian. Lost my wallet on the bus and the person who found it got my address from my drivers license and personally came to my house to return it. I had $400 in my wallet from a cash job and was so upset that the one time I have cash I lose my fucking wallet... everything was still in there when I got it back. I gave them $100 for being amazing. I'd call it a $100 fee for being an idiot lol
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u/DuckCleaning 6h ago
I'm Canadian, I returned a wallet with several hundred in it to a person for the good of doing so. No tip received, no tip expected, I even drove to them.
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u/StupidDumbass420 6h ago
Not everyone has the ability to just give up that much money.
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u/Perfect-Ship-9980 12h ago
Example -As an American, a few years ago in the Philippines I left 2-3k pesos ~$40 usd in my laundry. It was returned to me, but that's roughly a weeks pay for someone working there. I realized how little it would have ment if I never got it back ( I wouldn't have known) and what the laundry worker who found it would view it if it was a windfall for them, so I gave it all to them. That being said, I do hate tipping culture in the US where it's become almost mandatory rather than a gesture
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u/Fickle-Molasses-903 11h ago
I think in this specific scenario, losing a wallet and tipping after a meal, service, etc., are completely different things. You're rewarding and thanking a person who gave you your money and cards back, which you would otherwise have to go through the hassle of canceling, reordering, and waiting for the new ones to get to you. Plus, you would be out the cash, too. Tipping for a service is much different.
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u/MudReasonable8185 13h ago
A couple of weeks ago I found someone’s cell phone and was able to return it to them (their email address was displayed on the lock screen). When the guy came to get it he thanked me and offered me a reward which I of course refused. Like I’m returning this as it’s the moral thing to do and I would hope anyone else would do the same, I don’t know why a tip would be expected.
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u/TwentinQuarantino 12h ago
Offering and getting it refused is completely all right. But offering just 100 baht? That's low. If he'd offer like 2000 baht, and the good samaritan would insist on refusing, then it's all fair game. But offering just a hundred for getting your ass saved, that's just greedy.
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u/JiGoD BLUEWUBBALUBBADUBBDUBB 12h ago
Greed would be $0.
All I would expect for doing a good deed is a thank you. The entire planet is not purely transactional.
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u/gogenberg 13h ago
Don’t give anything then, this is an insult.
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u/Thefarrquad 11h ago
Yeah because "have a drink on me as a thanks" is soooo insulting.
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u/gogenberg 11h ago
It’s….. Are you Canadian, Indian or European?
If it weren’t for this person he’d be down $3,800 — I would have given him/her no less than $100 and no more than $500 for his kind gesture.
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u/Shunpaw 9h ago
Why... Are you bringing europeans in this? E.g. in germany we have a law for this - for $3800 it would be
$25 base +3% of the value
So total of ~$140 as a lawfully required amount.
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u/NoninflammatoryFun 7h ago
American and I wouldn’t expect to tip or be tipped. I found a lost dog once, and we bathed it and found the owner. They tried to give me cash and I was like nope! Spend it on your puppy. Go get it chipped like you had been about to do lol.
Edit: I mean, if they took time and effort to bring it to me, I may offer them something. Just for their time and transport! But
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u/zatalak 11h ago
In Germany we have laws for that:
Up to 500€ it's 5%
Over 500€ it's 5% of 500€ plus 3% on anything above (e.g. you find 600€ and get 25€+3€)
If found in public transportation or at a government agency it's nothing up to 50€ and after that half of the normal rate.
And 3% of the value of an animal you find and return.
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u/Medical_Apartment155 11h ago
Laws forcing you to tip for found property is crazy to me
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u/dresserplate 9h ago
Since I had my credit card stolen (or found and used?) I was wondering if a law like this would make sense. If you find someone’s lost stuff, does it instantly become yours? This law would settle the question
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u/bifflongshanks 11h ago
Damn in Germany, if I’m good enough at pickpocketing I can legally get people to give me money upon returning their wallet to them.
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u/kinglikeluke 10h ago
Or you just keep it, considering stealing it is illegal either way and giving it back makes you stand out much more? The hell kind of hack is this?
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u/tropicalpolevaulting 11h ago
IMO, you either give nothing or you give something more substantial. 0.1% just sends the wrong message, it's so much more insulting than giving nothing. It's something like "you did me a service that deserves a reward, but to me you're nothing so here is almost nothing in return". If the dude didn't tip anything you could see it as a favor to be repaid later, even if he never sets foot again in Thailand to do so, it's the thought that counts.
And btw, I'm not American so tipping culture doesn't come into play for me.
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u/j_delta_c 12h ago
At least enough to buy them lunch. They could have kept it all if they wanted
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u/toomanyteeth55 11h ago
Personally I think its insulting to be given money for doing whats right, unless the finder spent a lot of time and energy trying to return the money.
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u/ILoveFuckingWaffles 10h ago
Yeah this is all very strange to me. As an Australian, it would not occur to me to tip somebody in cash for returning lost property to me.
I’d probably offer to buy them a drink/lunch instead, and they’d probably politely decline, and that would be that
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u/Adventurous_Yak_5438 8h ago
Nah as a kiwi, I'd have offered a couple of hundy bucks easy.
I'd only assume that cash would have been long gone if my stupid ass left such a large amount behind.
If the hotel got in touch with me to tell me it's getting returned, im gaining $3,300 out of someone's kindness, not losing $500
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u/Same-Suggestion-1936 8h ago
Nah fam I'm American who works for tips and I'm not getting this at all. Why are you expecting a tip? Would you expect a tip for returning someone's wallet?
Sure you can offer a reward as an incentive for someone to go a little further in returning it. But other than that your reward is not being a trash human being and doing a good deed. You have no idea what that money means to someone
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u/Main-Policy-4551 11h ago
This isn't a situation where you'd tip at a restaurant or service, just common sense reward for something lost? Not necessarily a tip as the person who returned it wasn't working at their job. Tipping culture sucks, but so does being an asshole lol
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u/habitual_citizen 4h ago
Yeah I really don’t understand. I found >$1000 in cash on the ground. I gave it to a local business hoping the person would circle back around to get it, the business then handed it into the police station. No idea what happened but in theory if the person ever got their cash back I’d never expect them to give me anything? My thought is they probably need that money for themselves like why should I expect a tip? Weird logic to me
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u/TwentinQuarantino 13h ago edited 12h ago
Tbh with that kind of money on the line, I would give at least like 2000 baht, if not more.
With that kind of money, he literally saved his ass.
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u/bigboxes1 12h ago
You should return it because you should. Not because you're going to get a tip. Why is this even an article?
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u/Remarkable-Rush-9085 11h ago
Agreed, I have been on both sides of this situation and there was no compensation for returning what was lost. Just nice people doing a nice thing and a thank you. This attitude reminds me of how people expect everyone to venmo them back for buying a coffee or any little thing, so caught up in every dollar. Thank you doesn’t have to come with a tip.
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u/bigboxes1 10h ago
Yes. All I would ever want is a thank you. Even then, if I just turned it into the help desk, I would not ever expect a thank you. It's just doing the right thing.
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u/Prestigious_Bar_3738 11h ago
You’re talking about people who don’t understand civic responsibility
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u/SpiritualWindow3855 12h ago
Because it's a funny amount, like tipping 1 penny on a dinner bill.
At that point just explain you actually can't afford the tip but you're very grateful, I don't think it'd be a story if that had happened instead
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u/heyitsmemaya 11h ago edited 8h ago
This is the exact situation that drives me nuts. Had he not tipped it wouldn’t have even made the news 📰
It’s the fact that he tipped 1% that made it seem worse. Edit: 0.1%
Which frankly I agree with, and would have stuck with say a minimum of $20 USD or however much that is in local currency. Obviously if I lost $100 I probably wouldn’t be inclined to tip $20 but maybe would have reached in my pocket and gotten a $5 or something who knows.
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u/TonyShneak 11h ago
1% would be $38, even that would have been fine. This is a 0.1% tip
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u/Bhu124 10h ago
Yes that's what is cheap and pathetic. Either don't tip by tip appropriately according to the service. Someone gave you back so much money that you lost and you are giving back .1% of it as a Tip. That's demeaning.
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u/mars92 6h ago
No it made the news because social media loves outrage bait, modern Reddit especially. This isn't news at all.
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u/Just-wondering-thru 8h ago
Unrelated, but I remember once bringing a lost phone to a police box. The policeman told me to wait because the person who lost it worked nearby.
I didn’t want to go through the trouble of filling out a some kind of paperwork, so I decided to just give it back to her directly. I wasn’t expecting anything maybe just a small “thank you.”
Instead, when she arrived, she looked at me suspiciously, took the phone from the policeman without saying thank you, and left.
In the end, the policeman told me that I did a good thing, but I still remember feeling a little sad about it.
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u/TheGoldenPig RED 10h ago
This article itself is mildlyinfuriating. just do it because it's the right thing to do, not because you expect something in return. ffs
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u/OverlyEdged 9h ago
How did that figure even enter their head?
I bet they gave them the change that they had on them at the time.
They are French though, so anything is possible.
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u/TitanTheTerrible1073 7h ago
It was 100K baht and they tipped a 100 baht bill. This was in Thailand. It was just converted to $s for whatever reason.
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u/Medical_Poem_8653 12h ago
Money is always a tricky issue especially in countries with different customs and all.
But it's the same here. Story time : locked my keys in my car one evening after work. No-one around, no-one who could bring me back, ended up calling a collègue who (through her church connexions) found a friend of hers to come get me, drive me 50km back my flat and back with the spare keys. Refused money like I was insulting her.
I went and bought her a box of really good chocolate and that did the job. She wasn't expecting anything but I couldn't just leave without trying.
But also, those tourists should be ashamed and I at least hope they tried something else to show appreciation.
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u/PrincipleCapital8994 12h ago edited 12h ago
A few years ago I found a wallet with €1000 in cash in it, found the guy through facebook from the details on his student card, met him and returned it. He was very thankful, which is all I expected from him. Why should anyone expect money for doing something nice (and low effort) for someone else? I’m more judgemental of the hotel staff posing for a photo returning the money and then going to the media about the tip!
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u/pssssssssssst 1h ago
Very weird. So hotel staff should've stole it? What was the "right" tip? Wtf. Media is absolutely destroying society with selfish narratives.
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u/INSOMNIAC3528 9h ago
Why are we putting monetary value on a civic responsibility? All the hotel did was just inform the tourist about forgotten belongings as they should. The tourist went back himself to get it. And what is with people here acting like the tipping amount should always be proportionate to the service amount or the forgotten money in this case? It's a tip for fucks sake. It could be anything or nothing. Why judge someone for their decision that doesn't affect none of you. Just be better humans!
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u/Altruistic_Age_6556 5h ago edited 34m ago
This isn't even a civic responsibility - this was at a hotel. It's criminal to keep the money. They were doing their jobs.
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u/shamanphenix 11h ago
You expect tip when you just... Do the right thing?
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u/Jurijus1 10h ago
If I ever returned something, I wouldn't expect anything at all. I'm not doing that for a reward.
If someone ever found my 100k baht and returned it to me, I would definitely give them a reward. And it wouldn't be 0.1%, like this guy did.
Also it's a bit wild how so many Americans have no problem tipping someone just for doing their job, but rewarding someone for doing the right thing is a foreign concept to them. I guess they haven't been indoctrinated to do that yet?
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u/KardelSharpeyes 9h ago
No one 'expected' any tip here. The tip being so small is what is ridiculous.
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u/GroundbreakingEar450 1h ago
you do the right thing because its the right thing to do. not for a reward or an award.
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u/Chocked-Mammoth 10h ago
people expect to be tipped for being a decent human being ?
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u/daj0412 7h ago
it’s so interesting to me the lack of generosity and gratitude that can take place when people misplace thousands of dollars, could never see it again, and don’t give any gratuity or such a minuscule amount when you could’ve never gotten this back in the first place. if this was me i’m giving them $100 minimum, but probably $300
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u/cinnamonrain 3h ago
Lost my wallet after chinese new year at umich
It was packed. Probably at least $500 easily.
Someone ended up walking across campus and giving it to the lost and found without taking money.
I was lowkey offended that they didnt get any reward at allLegit wouldve been more happy knowing my hero got $100
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u/Sethan_Tohil 10h ago
I guess the tourist though giving 100 of local currency was a good gesture, and probably didn't realize it's a little amount for him. I believe genuine good and honest behavior should be rewarded and handing 1000 baht would have been appropriate
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u/ImmaculateWeiss 12h ago
So fuck helping people if we don’t get something in return? Sick of this greedy ass mindset that society is obsessed with
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u/Happy-Beetlebug 11h ago
Brother no tip wouldve been less insulting lol
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u/notreallyhereokbye 5h ago
Exactly, tourist gave 0.1% in return. You wouldn't do that in your home country so why is it acceptable somewhere else? And especially in a country where you are a visitor, whose currency is much weaker than yours.
A more respectful tourist would have at least considered the amount. This reads like an afterthought which is insulting.
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u/RiseUpAndGetOut 12h ago
And if it was a ring that was lost / found? Would the hotel staff have expected a portion of that to be cut out as well?
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u/Pb157 11h ago
Don't you guys read the article before commenting? Where is it mentioned that the staff expected any reward or is complaining about the low tip?
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u/RiseUpAndGetOut 11h ago
OP is posting in MildlyInfuriating, with an implication (though not stated) that the reward was too low compared to the value of the goods returned. It's nothing to do with the article. The point is being made to OP (and anyone else who reads it).
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u/Candid_Initiative992 12h ago
I’d be insulted if someone tried to tip me for handing them their lost goods. This reeks of western expectation of always expecting something in return.
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u/Admirable-Client-730 11h ago
Idk it is weird to me to want a reward but I still offer it. Especially with the amount mentioned here I would offer 100 bucks not because I feel obligated but because I want good behavior rewarded.
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u/Vetni 12h ago
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FTFY.
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u/fanficmilf6969 9h ago
yet all the Americans in this thread are saying the idea of tipping on returned money is insane and many Europeans are saying their countries have finders fee laws…
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u/Same-Suggestion-1936 8h ago
Right, people think our tip culture is weird but you've got finders fee laws baked into what should be a standard good Samaritan act other places apparently.
Never heard of a mandatory reward for returning a lost wallet. They might offer but it's not to be expected.
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u/DonPepe181 10h ago edited 10h ago
What's the tipping etiquette for generally decent behavior? Like pulling a child from in front of a bus, defending someone from a dog attack, saving a drowning person from your boat, filmimg a crime and sharing it with the victem, or returning something lost. Is it the same for everything or are their different amounts for different acts? I realize it is customary in the USA to provide a reward for the return of property unless you have been contracted to hold or move it, hell even then you are expected to tip on top of the contracted price.
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u/Jeny_Dont_Lose_Heart 12h ago
I tried tipping a hotel receptionist who had helped me massively for months (long work stay) in Vietnam and she nearly started crying it made her so uncomfortable.
My Vietnamese friend had to explain it was about 'face' etc.
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u/liangjcp 11h ago
What's frustrating is people who didn't do the good deed getting frustrated for the person who did and did not get a financial compensation. Maybe they just want to do something good without expecting anything in return.
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u/opiomorpher 5h ago
My opinion, honestly if I was the hotel staff I wouldn't expect a tip. I returned it because it was the right thing to do and that's enough.
That said, if they're going to tip it better be a reasonable amount. Getting $3.80 as a thank you looks like an insult, I'd rather turn it down in that situation.
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u/Special_Spirit8284 10h ago
Shouldn't be expecting anything when doing a good deed however this just highlights sometimes people aren't as grateful as you think they would be.
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u/wjdhay 12h ago
Tipping is for Americans. Fuck tipping.
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u/BackToSchoolMuff 9h ago
The word tip is literally only used in this context to drive engagement by getting reactions like the one you're having here.
If someone returned this much money to me that I'd thought I'd lost, I'd probably offer them $100 regardless of whether or not they worked at a hotel that I was staying at.
I wouldn't even think to frame it as a "tip" it's just a nice gesture when someone does something like that for you
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u/DisastrousThoughts 12h ago
Imagine losing the keys to your car and someone gives them to you and expects a car tire or windshield wiper in return.
Like, thank you for a being a good person, but why societal pressure to give them part of whats yours for doing the right thing.
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u/IlGrasso 10h ago
What happened to being good just because.
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u/lixilisk 9h ago
It'd be less insulting if they didn't give anything. I'd rather someone thank me than give me whatever they dug out of their pocket with their pocket lint.
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u/Archangel289 6h ago
The irony here amuses me.
Reddit: “tipping culture is gross and needs to go. Why should I give you extra money for a service?”
Also Reddit: “wow someone didn’t tip someone for getting their wallet back? What a joke. People are so entitled.”
I know it’s different contexts. But you can’t suddenly demand giving someone a portion of your money be the norm if they just…gave it back to you. That’s such entitled B.S.
If I found someone’s wallet with $1,000 in it…that’s their $1,000. It’s not my money. To expect someone to give me a small portion of it is beyond belief.
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u/Weak-Address8684 4h ago
If you know its different contexts, why mention it? Tipping culture has no relevancy to this situation
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u/HeartOfTexans 11h ago
Honestly this sounds like they tried to convert it to a 10% finger's fee but didn't carry the zero.
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u/wkos 9h ago
The problem is framing it as a tip. People have differing opinions on tips and %s etc. It's not a tip, it's a reward. In Germany they have rules on this (I'm not German) •
Items up to €500: 5% of the item's value. • Items over €500: 5% for the first €500, plus 3% for any value exceeding €500. • Animals: 3% of the animal's value.
I think it's a bit cynical as you'd like the people around you to care about their neighbour, but having a system (and you're legally obligated to return the item to an 'found office' - if not claimed after 6 months, it's yours) makes it more likely you get your stuff back.
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u/rufferton 9h ago
I once watched a lady find a wallet on the ground behind my car and then bring it to me thinking it was mine. Before I knew it, she’d handed it to me and walked away. It had nearly $3K in it. I was totally broke at the time and couldn’t pay rent, so naturally I went into the wallet and found the name and address of the owner on an ID. I tracked her down via social media, and it was a total pain tbh. I then took the wallet into the grocery store and left it with customer service, with all that cash in there and everything. I assumed the woman would be super grateful to have her money back, I figured it was her rent or something. But when she did respond, she was extremely rude, accused me of stealing her wallet, and was just a total B about it. Sometimes I still wish I had never turned that damn wallet into the store. After that, I lost my rental because I couldn’t afford rent anymore, but it all turns out all right.
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u/DiscoKittie Short Bus 9h ago
I'm sorry, what were they expecting? The person to just give them all the money?
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u/chiefgareth 9h ago
So? The hotel staff should have kept the money? Is that what you think?
The right thing to do is return the money to the rightful owner, not return the money to the rightful owner if they’re going to get a tip for it.
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u/Toadsted 8h ago
Yes, doing the right thing isn't a paid service.
Tip culture is crazy.
Also, not being arrested for theft, because you kept the money in fear of not having said money that wasn't yours.
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u/luzerella 8h ago
Giving peoples things back is normal. I wouldn’t even take someone’s money if I gave something back
Nor is it necessary in either directions
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u/Ok-Needleworker-3486 8h ago
I found a Thai ID card at a concert in isan and the owner gave me and my wife more then that in beers (he left and showed up with bags of beer and ice) I don't like tipping at all but a gesture that's not money would have been fine.
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u/Active_Complaint_480 8h ago
That's roughly 2,600 euros and the tip was 2.60 euros. I mean, the man needs money to pay his dubious aged gf.
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u/Billypillgrim 6h ago
I left my phone on a train recently. Someone found it and said he’d return it, but if I had $5 it’d really help him. You better believe that man got $20 from me.
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u/junvar0 11h ago
I returned a wallet. No tip expected. No tip received. They met me near my house, as opposed to me going to them. And they were clearly thankful. That felt better than any tip would have, because it's not like any reasonable tip would have changed my life.