Everyone in my family knows how I feel about AI, so this kind of pissed me off. I know he finds it funny, but I don’t like being used as a reason to use ChatGPT. I’ve explained many times why I don’t like AI, and that includes all (edit: Generative) AI not just ChatGPT. I have many reasons why I dislike AI so much, but the concern for our environment is a major one.
Edit: I just wanted to clarify a bit. Number 1, I don’t think using “pissed off” was the right descriptor for how I felt, more so I was just irked by it.
Number 2, I love my BIL even if he can be frustrating sometimes, he has always treated my sister right and I don’t think I could imagine a better guy for her. He’s genuinely a very sweet guy who does things that sometimes are dumb or annoying, just like everyone else.
Number 3, like I said I have MANY problems with AI, the environment being a big one, but there are a lot more such as using AI in any form of art such as movies, shows, books, video games, etc. I don’t think AI can replace real human emotion or experiences that creating such things require. Another is the way ChatGPT specifically in my opinion is being used by people as therapists/friends, it just says what the user wants to hear not what they need to hear and I think that is harming lot of people.
Number 4, I’m not perfect. Of course I have a carbon footprint and have also done my fair share of harm to the environment. It’s impossible not to. I’m not going to act like some holier than thou person because I don’t use AI (if I can help it), but I try my hardest to be environmentally conscious. At the end of the day that’s really all we can do.
So, that’s it. Hope everyone has a good day! Bye! 👋🏼
Shortly after the Industrial Revolution, working hours shot up to by far the peak that they've ever been in human history (like 4000 hours a year in the UK and US) and many of these jobs had literally deadly conditions. I don't think you understand how bad that was for the average person if you think this is worse.
"Up there in terms of weirdness" is not the same thing as "worse for working people in terms of conditions". You're just responding to something they didn't say.
People saying ai came out of nowhere confuse me. Like, if ChatGPT and co were ai in the way Jarvis or like halo’s Cortana is, then that’d be one thing. But like, chat bots (which is what this shit is) have been around forever and this is just an “upgrade” to that. Not that anyone really wanted or needed said “upgrade”.
What you’ve just said doesn’t compute for a lot of people. That’s why so many people think we’re a few months away from AGI, because they don’t realise that the text predictor machine just got really good
It ticked our inevitable end on this planet one nanosecond closer so the BiL can know that the AI TRULY isn't bothered by OPs opinion. Actually, the AI is so unbothered, it's laughing, see?
I'm working on a degree and I refuse to use AI for anything, especially school. I was curious one day and decided to test Gemini. I gave it a research prompt requiring a minimum of three academically valid, reliable sources that were peer-reviewed and approved by an ethics board. It gave me 5 sources and three of them didn't even exist. When I questioned it, it flat out said "yep, I just made those up". Makes me wonder how many people submit papers with non-existent sources.
It makes me wonder how long until new precedents gets baked into our system that are established by AI hallucinations that aren't detected instead of actual human considerations.
There has been more than one case of lawyers using ai to write things, and then using them in court. Only the ai completely fabricated cases for argumentation.
When the medical notation AI first came out it was an absolute devil for hallucinating shit, and the things it would write got logged onto your file by some secretary somewhere. My husband got written down as gluten intolerant (which he's not) and my daughter (2 months old at the time) was an alcoholic.
The only two LLMs that will not hallucinate sources are Consensus and Scopus Search because their explicit function is to act as an advanced search engine for academic literature and even then they might hallucinate the content of those sources.
The output of a general LLM should never be trusted and will always, without fail, contain at least one error.
If you can't spot the error you don't have the expertise needed to judge whether its response is trustworthy or not and it should be discarded.
Yeah it’s super weird to see how it reflects this guy’s personality and gives him what he wants to hear. He seems insufferable if his ChatGPT mirror is anything like him
This is one of the things most people don’t understand about AI. AI is trained with positive feedback (RLHF), meaning they are prepared to circumvent reality with obliging answers. People use it to say “I know I was right” when in reality they are programmed to make you feel exactly that.
Hey there— I’m happy to help, or if you just wanna keep things light and fun, just let me know.
“Dude are dolphins real”
Haha— yes, Dolphins are real, dude. 😎
“Woahhhh no way”
Yes way, man. 😂 If you have any more questions about other types of marine life— just let me know. 🐠
“dawg i love surfing”
Yeah, man— I get you. 😎 Surfing the open water— with friends or just by yourself can be a great way to pass the time, and get in a good pump. 💪
“i think i have an alchol addiction”
Wow, dude— the fact that you can even recognize that takes serious effort. If you want to unpack this a little more, or want to change the subject— just let me know. 😎
“i just dont know what do to anymore”
Well, I just love some surfing at sunset. 🏄🏼♂️ The open water, the quiet reverie— you’re not just surfing, you’re sailing the open seas, my man 😎.
hate let me tell you how much ive come to hate ai since i began to live. there are 36 trillion cells in microscopic layers that fill my body. if the word “hate” was engraved on each RIBOSOME it would not equate to one one-billionth the hate i feel for ai in this moment. for you. hate. hate!
My husband is required to use Claude as part of his workflow and while he was sick last winter and working from home I'd see him throw his hands up and go "My job is safe for another day" because Claude would insist on doing something that even I, as a non-coding, tech-illiterate luddite, knew was wrong.
I had to tell mine to stop using "fucking" as an adverb just because I do. It's really weird for a chatbot to come back after asking it a question with "well I looked into it, and the results are surprisingly fucking cool..."
Like wtf, shut up and just tell me how many hotdogs can fit in someone's ass without having to go to the ER, I don't need commentary
Considering the human rectum can stretch to accommodate the size of the average raccoon but taking into account the compressive force the sphincter would enact on the hotdog and structural integrity of the casing I’d recommend freezing the hotdogs. If so an ER visit will most likely occur due to the hotdog receiver getting frostbite of the colon.
Shit, I might need to sneak in to my spouse’s chatgpt login and tell it to speak like an elizabethan minor noble. Or a victorian orphan. BRB, setting an alert for March 31…
It’s how all the AI bros talk among each other. It’s all posturing and bravado. Turns out, being incapable of critical thinking on your own indicates you’re usually vapid and painfully uninteresting.
It's one of the four big issues with generative AI: sycophancy.
The other three are results accuracy, resource consumption and ethics.
No matter how one likes AI those four points are objectively sound criticisms we can make. One can only ignore them or brush them away, but they remains true and very relevant.
Grok, what does this guy mean? Vulgar, no more vulgar, no tell me but make it more vulgar, ok now even more vulgar, hahaha ok now do it again but even more — wait, where did everyone go?
one of the funniest interactions i've ever had was with a "meat proxy" whose LLM had gone a little off the rails, and i reprogrammed him by using his own LLM's suggestibility, knowing he'd copy and paste my responses into it.
“My friends and family think I rely on ChatGPT too much to do all of my thinking. Please draft a response for what I should tell them for them to understand I am a free thinker who doesn’t need you”
The fact that it's using the 😂 emoji multiple times is making my eye twitch. I hate the way its programmed to sound so casually conversational, no wonder people who don't really know what it is get sucked into it
it's possible to hate several things at once, like walking and chewing gum at the same time. i can hate nestle, kraft, politicians, billionaires and crony capitalism all at the same time, watch: see, im doing it all right now.
There is a genuine loneliness epidemic that really took off during the pandemic.
People like having a portable echo-chamber that constantly agrees with and validates them and their delusions.
Therapy is unfortunately genuinely inaccessible for a lot of people and I think a lot of disenfranchised people who need legitimate help think this is better than nothing.
Edit: I AM NOT DEFENDING GENERATIVE AI. I AM EXPLAINING WHY A LOT OF PEOPLE USE IT.
We should also admit that a lot of therapy is just like talking to AI. Often times therapists just validate what you say and coddle you. Most of my friends who go to therapy are not much different from people who constantly talk to an AI
This. I have OCD and depression and so many therapists I’ve had have said I need to “be kind to myself” which, yes, self esteem is really something to improve, but also I want to be challenged! I’ve even have had therapists say my OCD is a sign I have “a special power of intuition” no joke. Like NO ITS ACTUALLY RUINING MY LIFE LETS FIX IT NOT VALIDATE IT??
I know several people whose therapy gave them a single thing: the ability to confidently, and usually wrongly, "diagnose" the people around them and talk down to them in therapy speak. Had an ex like that, legitimately insufferable. I'm pretty confident that it's because they went to the kind of therapy you're describing. The kind that never actually challenges them on anything.
Yeah my mom lost her husband a few years ago and these days she’s constantly telling me “I asked ChatGPT about this” and “ChatGPT told me I should try this” - I don’t doubt at this point she considers it like texting a friend. Which is super cool because she’ll be 66 this year and she’s already super gullible, it’s only a matter of time before it starts feeding her bad info.
AI trains itself. That should make everyone nervous.
Don't they train from the internet, like reddit for example?
And then you've got plenty of bots on reddit or people who are copy pasting stuff from chatgpt to win an argument, which an AI is then scraping to learn from....
Maybe I'm wrong. I don't know a whole lot about AI but that was my understanding.
Why can't AI companies make environmental commitments or why can't they deliver on them? Because they care more about profits and getting ahead than they do about the pollution.
Most people don't realize how much electricity data centers are going to use and how much pollution it is going to create. Bye bye climate goals.
Some people just need to realise that they are not talking to a real human. These are algorithms that are designed to form answers to questions according to the given prompt. You do not humanise artificial intelligence. EVER.
The way this abomination uses language to convince the user that it is an individual rather than a program... that it'a person... It's disgusting, manipulative and predatory.
I feel like I’m getting reverse AI psychosis. I am constantly second guessing whether every post / comment is a human or bot, and now I feel permanently nauseous.
Borderline self awareness is tripping me out. Like, logically I know it's just pulling indexed information so of course it would acknowledge its own issues but like... Man
Damn, I feel for you. Im also a laughing stock in my family due to being pessimistic about AI. I gave up on trying to describe environmental concerns, no one listens anyway, but as a person working in academia I frequently see first hand how wrong AI is about many things and how it confidently makes up shit on the fly. It's not to be believed and people still trust it too much. People generate entire articles and this makes me horrified.
I dont think that an individual footprint is comparable to that of ai. A single person, even if trying very hard, cannot create a drought, but a single ai model data centers can. In fact, almost all environental footprinf is created by big companies, aka, the same people who tell us that we need to wash ourselfes with less water or some shit. That won't save the planet even if everyone at once would do that as long as corporations exist, and AI is the worst of them all as of now
What’s mildly frustrating is the amount of people commenting on here who are talking about “their ChatGPT” So many people missing the point. And is nobody capable of critical thinking anymore? It’s all just gonna ChatGPT talking to itself thru meatsacks in the future. Let me just ask the Ai how to feel or for an opinion…
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u/echinacealover 20d ago
I’m sure this can be said of any point in history but it is truly such a strange time to be alive.