r/mildlyinfuriating • • Sep 05 '26

Free Klingon massage These stupid plastic tabs break off every single time

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u/Caboobaroo Sep 05 '26

I've found that using a 90 degree pick to lift the tab can prevent them from breaking every time.

But it's still annoying when they break.

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u/Datboi_Markus Sep 05 '26

Yeah that or a little flathead is the best way to deal with these

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u/McGannahanSkjellyfet Sep 05 '26

This was using a tiny flathead, the plastic breaks before the little tab moves off the notch at all. 

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u/djluminol 25d ago

This happens all the time where I live. It's just so hot that the plastic dries out and gets extremely brittle. It's no win situation. The zip tie was a stroke of genius though.

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u/McGannahanSkjellyfet 23d ago

I wish I could take credit for it, but I learned it from whoever last replaced the coils on my old '88 4Runner. 

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u/djluminol 23d ago

I also have a Toyota so I'm sure at some point this will be in my future.

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u/McGannahanSkjellyfet 23d ago

Another genius here suggested hitting the connectors with a heat gun beforehand to loosen up the plastic, definitely worth a shot. 

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u/DeathAngel_97 29d ago

3 years at a dealer and I've only broken the retaining tab on maybe 2 or 3 connectors out of what has to be thousands at this point(my specialty is electrical diagnostics). Always use a pick to lift the tabs. Now the red locking tabs are another story lol. Not sure what happened to OP here but either skill issue or really REALLY shitty connector bodies. Would like to know who made it so I can steer clear if this is a regular occurence.

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u/McGannahanSkjellyfet 29d ago

This is a 2007 Toyota Sienna, so most likely not shitty connector bodies, although after 19 years and 160,000 miles of heating and cooling cycles it's possible the plastic just got too brittle. I'd lean more towards a skill issue, though. I used a tiny flathead to ever so gently try and lift the tab, but instead of the one side lifting the notch off of the other side when pressure was applied, they just came right off. I even made sure to push the connectors in while trying, but alas. 

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u/DeathAngel_97 29d ago

Ah, yeah almost 20 years of heat cycling can do that. Depending on the case sometimes I hit them with PB blast to help things move more easily.

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u/cloaker1308 28d ago

I find that heating them up slightly (like 130-150° or so) makes the plastic somewhat pliable and allows you to lift the tabs.

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u/WideJuice4587 29d ago

I destroy nearly every one of those little red looking tabs. They aren't really needed anyways...

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u/WhiteKnight2045oGB Sep 05 '26

I don't know what you do, but mine never broke in the 28 years that my car is existing ...

Okay, to be fair, the plastic clips can break quite easy, and the plastic isn't the best that they could have used for them ... but still ... I never managed to break them. Not a single one!

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u/Type-RD Sep 05 '26

Same. I know they’re a pain, but you only have to lift them like 1 mm to make them release.🤷‍♂️

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u/pottsygotlost Sep 05 '26

Undo a few sets a week and you’ll find they’re less reliable than you think haha

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u/WhiteKnight2045oGB Sep 05 '26 edited Sep 05 '26

Trust me, i undid quite a few in my life on all sorts of vehicles ... but still, they never broke!

But I know that they are usually aren't as reliable as most people want them to be ... because it is shitty plastic.

Maybe I am just lucky ... who knows

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u/McGannahanSkjellyfet Sep 05 '26

Someone told me that if the engine is warm the plastic is less brittle, so that may be it. Every time I've needed to swap an ignition coil though, the engine was cold because I don't like running it with a dead cylinder. 

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u/SpawnShootDie 29d ago

There are other ways of making the plastic warm - you could try a hairdryer.

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u/YetiSquish Sep 05 '26

What do you mean running it with a dead cylinder? You’re running the engine while swapping the coil? I’m confused

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u/McGannahanSkjellyfet Sep 05 '26

No, I mean I didn't start the car and run it until the engine was warm because it was misfiring. 

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u/Confident_Cheetah_30 Sep 05 '26

Its well worth it to buy a set of the connector housings and replace them. Its pretty cheap and the crimped pins are almost always still good so you just need to remove them and insert them into the new ones.

My 07 camry ones were so bad earlier this year that a couple effectively crumbled during removal, but it was only 10 minutes of work once I had the new housings to replace them all since the pins were still good.

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u/McGannahanSkjellyfet Sep 05 '26

Honestly, the zip-tie trick in photo #2 has held up permanently on multiple cars I've owned. I personally think it's better than the original tab lock. 

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u/Confident_Cheetah_30 Sep 05 '26

I was actually quite impressed when I scrolled to that btw, not knocking that genius at all.

Full disclosure I also was able to source my connectors for free from a friend who works in harnesses so I may be biased as it was free for me.

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u/McGannahanSkjellyfet Sep 05 '26

They're not that expensive to buy new, I'm just cheap. 

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u/Soler25 Sep 05 '26

Push the connector in, push tab down then remove is the best I can do. But yea, it seems like any plastic around the heat of an engine gets brittle quick

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u/Saute_and_Pray 29d ago

Professional mechanic here. The hardest part of the job is disconnecting electrical connectors. My fingers hurt.

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u/RongoonPagoo 27d ago

I just soften them with a heat gun and use a pick to lift the tab.

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u/McGannahanSkjellyfet 27d ago

HEAT GUN! You're a genius, thanks. 

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u/BigBeeOhBee Sep 05 '26

Not the next time....

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u/pottsygotlost Sep 05 '26

Yeh if you use a pick to lift the end of the tab instead of squeezing the part you’re supposed too, you’ll have a 100% chance of successfully releasing them at least 25% of the time, hope this helps.

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u/Impossibleshitwomper Sep 05 '26

I just thread a zip tie through the connector and use that to lock it to the little triangle tab thing

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u/McGannahanSkjellyfet Sep 05 '26

Check photo #2. I've done this on 3 cars so far, and the zip-tie trick has never failed. It's more reliable than the actual plastic tab. 

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u/Impossibleshitwomper Sep 05 '26

I didn't notice there was 2 pics

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u/McGannahanSkjellyfet Sep 05 '26

Obviously it was good advice you gave me!

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u/sandosbud 28d ago

We keep the connector housings in stock. After 120k miles (when the plugs are recommended to be changed) the plastic is super brittle and break just by looking at them.

Pry the white lock out of the connector housing, break the secondary lock with a small flat screwdriver or pick, pull out all four wires out at the same time, align the new connector, make sure they click in place and push the white lock down into place. 1-2 minutes per coil connector and like 10 bucks per connector.

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u/Cute-Region-3449 Sep 05 '26

Unless I am missing something specific with this particular part, I usually would use a small flathead screwdriver if it was giving me problems (based on what I see without actually seeing the unbroken part 😂)

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u/Slapshot300 29d ago

Newer GM cars have red clips that go into those harnesses and i broke 3 out of the 4 of them on my equinox when changing the plugs. They are the tiniest most frail things ever

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u/McGannahanSkjellyfet 29d ago

Oh god, those look terrible. Does the zip-tie trick even work with those?

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u/Slapshot300 29d ago

Nope, just gotta send it and hope your engine doesn’t suddenly lose a cylinder while driving :’)

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u/flungcow 29d ago

Has anyone come up with a better fix than the zip tie?

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u/McGannahanSkjellyfet 29d ago

Yeah, I could just buy new connectors and a pack of soldering seal butt slices and replace the entire thing. But then in another 100,000 miles when I need to swap the coils again I'll just end up breaking the tabs again. 

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u/MadK9TheReal1 29d ago

Zip ties for me also…

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u/Take-Me-Home-Tonight 29d ago

I’ve never broken one, but I typically only work on my own cars and a few close friends so I’ve only maybe done it on 10 cars or so.

But I did have an old cop car crown Vic that came with them already broken and zip-tied into place (they actually clamped the zip tie together)