r/japan • [東京都] • 7d ago

Sushi wars roll into America as Japan’s top chains face off

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/business/2026/09/29/sushi-wars-chains-face-off/
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u/i_hateeveryone 7d ago

Interesting how Kura opened in actual places that people who live in the area goes to compare to Sushiro just opening this in time square as a marketing ploy; only tourist and non locals would go there.

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u/Hazzat [東京都] 7d ago

Well Kura has had a 15-year head start while Sushiro has only just opened this as a flagship.

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u/i_hateeveryone 7d ago edited 7d ago

they could have picked a better location. I would think LA is a better fit to launch.

The cost of importing to east coast along with the numerous food options in NYC will be hard to stay competitive. I’m wondering how much they are charge per a plate because if it’s more than $2, I’m not eating there as there’s much better sushi with better cost in NYC.

Kura doesn’t even have a location in NYC, the closest is Fort Lee across the river in North NJ. They know better.

Sushiro opened a izakaya type restaurant in Boston instead of the conveyor belt. I ate there and quality was decent but nothing special. More locals or college kids did eat there though

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u/nitrogenmath 7d ago

Kura has a location in Flushing Queens

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u/i_hateeveryone 7d ago

I meant Manhattan.

Yeah the Flushing Kura isn’t busy at all. Understandably so as that area has much better and cheap food places

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u/RICHUNCLEPENNYBAGS 7d ago

The cost of importing food is not materially that different. It’s all frozen anyway.

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u/mostie2016 7d ago

That or Houston. Houston is a foodie town.

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u/i_hateeveryone 7d ago edited 7d ago

Real Foodies are not eating cheap sushi. It’s slightly above grocery sushi and only because it’s not in the fridge.

People eating conveyor sushi are people looking to save money like college kids, families for the novelty, and people who don’t care much about sushi quality. Forgot, also content creators will be flocking there

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u/sukumizu 7d ago

Nah man, real foodies just like eating what they like. Foh with that “I’m too good for the cheap stuff” trash.

I’ve had Kura and I’ve also gone to some high end spots in Tokyo as well, either would make me happy.

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u/BabyBabyCakesCakes 7d ago

I don’t know what foodies you’re talking about but I consider myself something along those lines and I’m not against Kura at all. I think you’re being a little hyperbolic comparing it to grocery store sushi. It’s pretty good, I don’t know when the last time you went, if ever, they’re pretty good imo

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u/Ananegg 7d ago

Kura is everywhere now, but I won't eat there. Why? Because it's $4+ a plate. At a Kura in Japan it would be 150 yen a plate, which is like .$95, just not worth it

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u/BabyBabyCakesCakes 7d ago

Welcome to America. Kura’s prices are actually not bad compared to all the other alternatives in my city.

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u/Sarloh 7d ago

Anon learns about purchasing power

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u/TrumpChildOnahole 6d ago

Americans don't make 4 times as much as japanese lol especially comparing local wages to local prices 

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u/Repulsive-Front8294 7d ago

Might have something to do with the fact that in Japan the median wage is like 20k USD/ year while in New York it’s 80k USD / year.

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u/RICHUNCLEPENNYBAGS 7d ago

They wouldn’t be able to cover their expenses with those prices. Japanese restaurants are much cheaper in general.

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u/khuldrim 6d ago

If I go to a sushi place in my east coast city I’m paying $8 for two nigiri pieces…

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u/Repulsive-Front8294 7d ago

Well, just like Sushiro in Japan then.

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u/RobRoy2350 7d ago

It's a case of what you don't know...I lived in NYC for many years and ate at many sushi restaurants from budget to high-end omakase. Although some of the high-end ones flew fish in from Japan (reflected in absurd, crazy prices) those US budget chains can't compete with Japan counterparts primarily because of sourcing. US has to rely on commercial distributors and pre-frozen, thawed fish. But even so, I always thought sushi in the US was very good.

Until I moved to Tokyo. No comparison.

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u/t-g-l-h- 7d ago

Please build a Hama Sushi 5 minutes from my house. Also a Hanamaru Udon, a Ichiran Ramen, and a Coco Ichibanya, thank you

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u/yodelingllama 7d ago

Hanamaru Udon once opened 30 minutes from my house (I live outside of Japan) for a good few years and it was the best thing ever until it closed down. :( They must have had a deal with Yoshinoya too because they were always open next to each other.

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u/Mr-Thuun 7d ago

I have all those 10 minutes from my house!

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u/forvirradsvensk 7d ago

I thought everywhere in Japan has one of those 10 minutes from everywhere.

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u/Mr-Thuun 7d ago

Unless you live in a remote mountain village, there is most likely at least one of those.

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u/forvirradsvensk 7d ago

I did once live in a remote mountain village (oaza) - there was a Hotto Motto at least, or Hokka Hokka Tei as it was called then.

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u/t-g-l-h- 7d ago

Lucky!

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u/Mr-Thuun 7d ago

I only go to Hamazushi once every couple of months. The rest maybe once a year these days.

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u/KyotoGaijin [京都府] 7d ago

Do they make it American style with a bunch of toppings and sauces squirted it all over it?

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u/KingPalleKuling 7d ago

slathers an inverted maki with bbq sauce and roasted onions

"Boy do I love sushi!"

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u/i_hateeveryone 7d ago

They have them

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u/RICHUNCLEPENNYBAGS 7d ago

Honestly I like that stuff. If the fish is insanely fresh you’re wasting it, sure. But if not mayonnaise isn’t hurting anything.

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u/UrricainesArdlyAppen 7d ago

"squeeze-bottle sushi"

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u/Hitohira 7d ago

There is plenty of that kind here in Japan.

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u/spamfridge 7d ago

No, there’s really not. Where are you located? I’ve only occasionally seen them at kaitenzushi near tourist hotspots.

I’ve never once seen anything remotely resembling a “California” or “rainbow” roll at any establishment that isn’t kaitenzushi. And even there, it’s maybe 1-3 items of 100 on the menu.

Only time I’ve been served mayonnaise is with tuna onigiri or ehire(stingray)

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u/Hitohira 7d ago

I'm in Sendai. And yes, I meant specifically at kaiten sushi restaurants. They always have something that are slathered in mayo. They have plenty of stacked options.

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u/spamfridge 7d ago

Random but is matsushima bay worth visiting? I have a roadtrip next month up to iwaki and was considering the push to Sendai for this.

I only just recently discovered the so called “three views of Japan” or 日本三景

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u/Hitohira 6d ago

I went there a little over a decade ago and there are indeed a lot of people but the tour of the Lords where you go out on the boat and they give you a history of all the islands and what the nobility did and use the eyelets for was really fascinating. It is an absolutely stunning site. There are plenty of things to do. A lot of shops and while there were a lot of people when I went, it was very orderly and calm.

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u/spamfridge 6d ago

Cheers Ty

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u/Widespreaddd [茨城県] 6d ago

I haven’t been there in 30 years, but yes, it’s beautiful. There is also a pretty little island called Kinkazan. It has a shrine and a bunch of tame deer. The seas were very rough when I visited, which only added to the fun of the boat ride!

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u/spamfridge 6d ago

Thank you!! I’ve added to my list.

Any place worth recommending 30 years later sounds like a worthwhile time to me.

Kinkazan looks beautiful and I’ve yet to meet any friendly deer since I’ve never been able to convince myself or friends to go to Nara. Looks like there’s even a dive shop in the area. Will check this out

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u/Venture_compound 6d ago

Please tell me where, because I miss it sometimes. I live in Tokyo and NEVER see American style sushi.

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u/blacksystembbq 7d ago

“While primarily known for its cheap eats in Japan, Sushiro will charge more of a premium in the U.S. to help cover higher costs and build tips into its prices. Most single-serving plates will cost about $5 to $6, with some dishes reaching $10. That’s far above prices in Japan, where some plates can start from as little as ¥120 (80 cents). It’s also above the roughly $4 average at Kura Sushi’s outlets in the U.S..”

The appeal of these chains is that they are cheap and easy in Japan. Although I have Kuras available near my home in the US, I never go bc they’re too expensive. I go all the time in Japan.

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u/turlian 6d ago

I took my wife and two teenage boys to Kura in Tokyo and we were stuffed for under $50. Took my wife and one kid to the Kura in Boulder and it was $130.

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u/redchairyellowchair 7d ago

Kura is sooo bad in Japan nowadays. Always empty in Ishikawa, however Hama is super crowded and you always have to wait. Sushiro is in the middle

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u/PlexingtonSteel 5d ago

I have a feeling that both Kura as well as Sushiro have become way worse in the last couple of years. Visited 2019 and it was like the sushi in every Sushiro I visited tasted fantastic. Began visiting again in 2023, it tasted still very good but it got worse every year. Maguro and salmon sushi taste like nothing, like eating cartboard, compared to other chains or individuell restaurants.

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u/Moritani 7d ago

They need a serifed font.

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u/SergeantBeavis [アメリカ] 6d ago

The growth of sushi in the US is nice, but can we please get some Yamachan restaurants over here?

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u/aldorn 5d ago

Begun the Sushi wars have.

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u/forvirradsvensk 7d ago

I'm tentative about eating sushi in those places in Japan, let alone venturing into one in the US.

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u/shinydrop 7d ago

High end sushi in America is not as good as sushiro. You'd be surprised

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u/forvirradsvensk 7d ago edited 7d ago

That's what I mean. I wouldn't go into Sushiro in Japan and afterwards fart confidently for a good few days. Whereas, you seem to think the crap they serve is "high-end" for Americans.

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u/shinydrop 6d ago

I'm Japanese.

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u/forvirradsvensk 6d ago

So am I. That doesn't make Sushiro any less awful, you're not making much sense.

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u/shinydrop 6d ago

Oh, you have eaten at many place? At least all fish itself in Japan is more high-end and expensive. Most of Japanese restaurant in America is not owned by Japanese 🤗

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u/forvirradsvensk 6d ago

At many Sushiro? If I'm desperate I'll east Hamakatsu, but avoid all those chains. They're awful. I've been to the US but never tried their sushi, and it would be weird if I did.

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u/shinydrop 6d ago

No. At many American sushi restaurants.

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u/forvirradsvensk 6d ago

No. Bit weird to travel to America to eat Japanese food.

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u/shinydrop 6d ago

I live in America, for a long time. So I have been MANY. And they are all sad. Been to 3 high-end ones owned by Japanese chef. One in NY, one in Chicago. One in Wisconsin. nY one was amazing. I felt like I ate real Japanese sushi. Other two were sadness. I miss Japanese sushi 😭😭 that I used to go. Now I can only eat when I go back to visit my family :(

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u/Venture_compound 6d ago

You've clearly never eaten sushiro, the place sucks. 

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u/shinydrop 6d ago

I'm Japanese 😊

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u/ShadowHunter 7d ago

These chains are pretty mediocre everywhere 

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u/Background_Map_3460 [東京都] 7d ago

The McDonald’s of sushi