His replacement coffin to be precise. The priests or officials had to hide his and dozens of other pharaos’ mummies, with new simple sarcophaguses in a concealed and hidden undecorated tomb cave.
It wasn't his real coffin I believe. They found him in a mummy cache together with some other important Pharaos. His grave was most likely already looted while some priests made sure at least the mummy stays undisturbed
Yeah I would hope so for Sean Bean since he actually has a lot of dialogue. I just remember the anecdote about Patrick Stewart being psyched at how much prep they gave him for relatively little VO
To be fair, Uriel Septim VII is probably one of the most important characters that actually shows up in any of the games. His reign spanned from Arena to Oblivion, and he was involved in the plots of all of them.
People have made it to old ages for thousands and thousands of years, this isn't a modern thing. People have a better chance to make it to that age now with modern medicine, but we also pollute the shit out of the earth and our bodies with our modern methods and chemicals.
That's a different Ramesses. Ramesses II and ramesses iii are two different people. They're also not related by family
Also, if you have the same haplogroup as Ramesses iii (haplogroup E1b1a), it means that both of you have one common paternal ancestor from around 40,000 years ago. It doesn't necessarily mean that you literally descend from him
Actually the lower mortality rate back in the day was skewed low by infant deaths. If you survived past 4 (when many societies decided you were gonna stick around long enough to get a name) you had a good chance of living to a ripe old age, like 80.
And deaths still came easy later, too. Broken bone? Decayed tooth? Anything that's prone to infection? You'd better pray to whatever god you believed in, cause there wasn't much more you could do. This is just an example, many other things we don't even think about today were fatal back then. I think the numbers say something like 'more than half of those born wouldn't see their 35th birthday'. The rest could live to 70, 80, and even further.
That’s right, even ear infections which we fix with antibiotics and take for granted used to have a significant mortality rate which absolutely stunned me when I found out.
Yea this whole “actually” thing in my opinion went out of hand.
It’s true that the infant mortality scewed the overall statistics, but I am pretty sure that “good chance of living to a ripe old age” is an exaggeration.
Yeah this guy was a literal king, he is not a good candidate to dispel myths about mortality rates in the past. Of course he had a good chance of living to 80 years compared to the large amount of the human population whose lives included hard labour, poverty, and sickness—not even mentioning the amount of women who died during child birth or botched abortions, and it’s not like contraception could’ve helped them.
Ramesses II died in July or August of 1213 BC at approximately 90 to 91 years old, concluding a remarkable 66-year reign as one of ancient Egypt's most powerful pharaohs. HAPPY 3,239 th Birthday BIG GUY.. doesn’t look a Day past 1100 years old
This reminds me of how Nuts victorians went for mummies.
Victorians really did have parties where the main event was unrolling a mummy to have a peek inside those ancient bandages.
Mummies were treated as a natural resource, and there were industrial uses for them: They could be ground up and used in fertilizer, perfume, or a pigment for a paint color called “mummy brown.” Mummy brown was a very popular color to have on interior home walls.
The oldest man with a French passport. Apparently there was some legal crap when the mummy was being brought so a passport was issued to him. Edit- wasn't a French passport but required by France for some reason. Early morning brain fart. Probably still oldest man with a passport.
In the 1970s, they diacovered a type of mold growing inside his skull that would eventually cra k and crumble it if the mold was not removed. However, this is a very delicate and lengthy process and Egypt did not have any specialists who could perform this, but they could only do so in France.
However, Ramses II having an Egyptian passport is an urban legend. He never really had a passport, but they did process offucial identification paperwork for the body since, you know, its a 3,000 year old corpse of a monarch. The pictuee below is fake (artist rendition); there is no image of it ever shared by the Egyptian government.
What is true, though, is that when he landed in Paris, he was recieved with full military honors like a head of state would.
Absolutely wild how well preserved he is. We are looking at a human being that died over 3000 years ago with their facial features mostly intact and recognizable.
Contrary to what a lot of people are commenting, there is no consensus among historians that Rameses II was the pharaoh mentioned in Exodus. There are at least a dozen pharaohs that could fit the time periods and stories, though it must also be said that non-Biblical historical records of the period do little to corroborate any of the specifics of the Exodus story.
“ Ramesses II was officially issued an Egyptian passport, but the viral passport image is fake. The event is real; the photo circulating online is not. In the mid‑1970s, Ramesses II’s mummy was deteriorating due to a fungal infection. Egypt needed to send it to Paris for urgent conservation work. French law at the time required every person entering the country — living or dead — to have valid travel documents.
So Egypt issued Ramesses II a modern passport listing his occupation as “King (deceased)”
Red hair isn’t uncommon among Egyptians, as are blue and green eyes. It’s not only from intermarriage, these are genes present in native Egyptian DNA too
Anyway, youre looking at here at one of the Greatest Kings of Ancient Egypt. He is regarded as the last "Great" king to rule Egypt.There's a reason he was nicknamed Ramesses the Great. After his rule, ancient Egypt kind of started to very gradually decline. He was born in Northern Egypt and his capital was in the North, near the Mediterranean Sea.
He was the Pharaoh with the longest reign ever. He ruled Egypt for 66 years, longer than any other King. And he died 92 years old, in the year of 1213BC.
He had over 200 wives (3 of which were his own daughters);and more than 100 children. He also had many foreign wives from the regions of modern day Syria, Iraq and Turkey.
He is theorised by most biblical scholars to ve the Pharaoh of the bible who enslaved the Jewish people. Moses was supposedly his adopted brother. That's just the biblical theory tho.
He built a new capital in Northeast Egypt and named it after himself, its called Pi-Ramesses. The biblical theory is that he used the Jewish slaves to build his capital.
Moving on, Egypt at the time was an empire and ruled over Northern Sudan, Palestine/Israel, Lebanon and parts of Syria. he also went to war with the Hittites (a people who inhabited modern day Turkey), the battle was in Syria, and it was effectively a stalemate and both sides signed the first recorded peace treaty in history. However, when he went back home he described himself as victorious as form of state propaganda.
Also, he ended up marrying the daughter of the Hittite king after the peace treaty in order to ensure the peace continues between both empires
He built many grand temples and statues such as the temple of Abu Simbel, which is in the pic below. He built it in Nubia, in the Southern frontier of Egypt in order to consolidate his power in the South and as a show of force and grandeur, since Nubia often rebelled against Egypt. He also militarily expanded the rule of Egypt over Nubia.
He is one of the most fascinating figures of ancient Egypt
My dad always thought displaying mummies was disrespectful as they are just dead people .
Looking at this dead guy who used to be a mighty king now look like a weak old person makes me think dad is correct
They wanted to live forever, and by us finding the mummified remains, we want to know more, and study their history, and eventually put them in a museum, so here we are talking about them 3300 years later so it's kinda working.
Nobody's talking about Bill Jenkins who died in 1937 in Nebraska. Or even worker # 2985891 who helped build a pyramid.
Whilst i tend to agree with your dad , a displsyed mummy is actually the most desirable outcome.
Throughout the 17th and 18th century, mummy's were grounded up and turned into the pigment "mummy brown" and sold across Europe to artists to use in their art work. This pigment was so popular demand for mummies was huge until the supply was exhausted.
Before that, mummies were grounded up and used as medicine in 15th and 14th centuries.
imagine the thousands, maybe even 10s of thousands of mummies consumed this way over the centuries
I think the most desirable outcome would be to be the whole closed casket would be displayed but not the body
The victorian era thing is so weird idk how they even came up with it . Why would we ground up a dead person to get a pigment ... Is it because the person doesn't look like the person using their body therefore it's ok ?
Medicine from mummies also weird but at least it's not something as juvenile as a pigment
I’m fascinated by the bodies… looking at the face of a great man over 3k years old. We recognize him, he’s genuinely immortal now. Is that not the goal?
I remember taking my son to the British Museum and being a bit gobsmacked at how corpsey it was.
There was something so sad about seeing these people's bodies on display, especially the Egyptians. They treated death with such reverence, but ended up thousands of miles from their home, taken from their resting places, and displayed in a brightly lit glass cabinet.
I explained to my son this is one of the reasons my family are so keen on cremation, heh
There is a skeleton of someone with gigantism I think, in one of medical museums in Britain, pretty recent 19th century?
Man specifically asked for sea burial to not be displayed, they stole his body anyway, boiled his flesh away and still display his skeleton to this day.
British museums pilfering aside: I personally think it’s fascinating. Obviously nobody who has a right to be personally offended is still around and while you might say weak old man this guy was a fucking living god among men. Absofuckinglutely none of us will ever be put in a museum to be the face of our entire culture people will learn about as the basis for their own being.
This is like a 5000 year old dude. And there’s like not a bad chance that he’s related to you
Oh, it is fascinating - most of the human remains that get excavated often offer fascinating insights into the health, lifestyle and practices of the time. But most of the remains in the British Museum (and other establishments, like the Jorvik Viking Centre) aren't of leaders or living gods, but just random people.
Obviously they're dead, they're not going to care, but it just feels a little odd seeing corpses and knowing that they were once living people, walking around and having opinions, and now they're on display alongside pottery, like just another object.
I disagree. For one, no one from their family is around to care and they're dead so they don't care. Second, I like that it humbles us and undermines the idea that any human is greater than another.
It's truly interesting how ancient Egyptian corpses are posted for the world to see but virtually all other cultures are against it. The modern Arab Egypt is so far removed culturally from that Egyptian culture and relies on tourism to keep one of the most resource poor nations in that part of the world relevant.
I just feel uncomfortable that people are now opening these mummified dead. Those dead people expected to stay mummified in those crypts forever in accordance with their beliefs. How would these archeologists or general public feel if we started digging up all the buried remains of British or European royalty, and parade them everywhere?
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I saw the exhibit in 2024. This is what they said he looked like at 80