r/boxoffice • u/ChiefLeef22 Best of 2024 Winner • 14h ago
Domestic 'Avengers: Doomsday' has already racked up nearly $60M in pre-sales according to theatrical sources (TheWrap)
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u/decoded1 14h ago
That number will keep going up. Average people will start looking at tickets and realizing all the shows from the first few days are full or near full, especially for premium formats. I could see the first 2 weeks doing huge numbers. Positive Reviews and word of mouth will carry it from there.
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u/nicolasb51942003 Warner Bros. Pictures 14h ago
Anything below a $400M OW would be called "underperforming" at this rate.
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u/ChiefLeef22 Best of 2024 Winner 14h ago
What I'm most curious about is how much Dune is affected in all this. Capacity is the word that keeps being brought up and I have to imagine a lot of the standard theaters wanting a piece of the Avengers pie, which might eat through a lot of Dune's OW potential.
But I guess the brighter side is a huge potential for legs29
u/NotTaken-username 14h ago
I think Dune 3 will open lower than the second movie, but have stronger legs and ultimately make more. Like maybe a $65M-$70M OW and a 4.5x multiplier off that
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u/blue_ig1 14h ago
Most likely. It might make a surprisingly decent amount, but probably lower than Dune 2. I do think it’ll end up making more at the end of the run since it’s a conclusion.
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u/Beach_Bum7836 6h ago
I'm surprised more people aren't factoring this in. the Finale factor can do wonders for a movie's box office--assuming it sticks the landing.
People that saw Dune 2 and enjoyed it will see that this is the concluding chapter, and it's your last chance to see a Dune film on the big screen (excluding rereleases), and will most likely turn out for it if it's good.
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u/Antman269 14h ago
Yeah, basically a Sonic 3 situation since that also opened in December on the same day as a Disney blockbuster.
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u/AvengingHero2012 14h ago
I don’t care about the IMAX exclusivity. Dune staying in December with this monster is a mistake.
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u/PrestigiousFail5955 14h ago
I think it'll be like odyssey and spider man (I know odyssey was released 2 good weeks and dune is same day)
Where dune 3 will still make decent money but doomsday will blow it out of the park
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u/lobonmc Marvel Studios 12h ago
Also like the odyssey I feel it's the legs where Dune will make the bulk of its money
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u/PrestigiousFail5955 12h ago
I agree, doomsday will be frontloaded whereas dune like odyssey will have great legs because of imax. I still think dune should come out 1 week before to max out their money
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u/Comic_Book_Reader 20th Century Studios 12h ago
I actually took a look at a couple of schedules when Doomsday tickets went on sale here in Norway not too long ago, and it appears Dunc is taken into account given that some of the screenings (Infinity Vision of course) are spaced apart as opposed Doomsday locking off that screen. We'll only have two weeks, however, as Dunc tickets are going on sale October 20 per one of the sites.
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u/FartingBob 10h ago
I think anything that isnt contractually on lock for Dune is going to be going to Doomsday, no matter how screens a place has for opening weekend the demand is going to push every theatre to maximise Doomsday screenings. After OW im sure it will be slightly more balanced (as well as the other films already in circulation).
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u/Nervous_Most_5585 14h ago
And over 70 days are STILL left, WOW.
The Christmas corridor will allow it to dominate the weekdays, its 2nd and 3rd weekend. Star Wars The Force Awakens will lose those records as well, unbelievable.
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u/PayneTrain181999 Legendary Pictures 6h ago
And this is all WITH Dune.
Secret Wars could do even better.
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u/ChoppyOfficial 14h ago
That is going to depend on reviews. It is not going to have Star Wars TFA or Avatar type legs. No Way Home or a little better will likely be the performance for that movie. The higher the opening, the steeper the second weekend drop will be.
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u/Nervous_Most_5585 14h ago edited 12h ago
Well, that is the thing, it doesn't need TFA or Avatar legs to achieve that.
Avengers Doomsday's opening weekend is going to be so big, especially compared to The Force Awakens (247M), that even with higher drops, it'll still be insanely likely to go through stronger dailies and 2nd wknd + 3rd wknd during the Christmas period.
WOM would need to be on the level of Eternals, The Marvels and Brave New World for it not to achieve this. I don't see that happening with this movie.
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u/NotTaken-username 14h ago
I think it’ll have legs like The Last Jedi and The Rise of Skywalker, about 2.8x-2.9x opening weekend.
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u/ChoppyOfficial 13h ago
That is a very fair performance I can see. I can not see Doomsday having a 70% or more drop if the spoilers are that bad. A 40% or less drop will be tough to get because MCU movies other than GOTG and Black Panther do not operate like that.
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u/RealityRepurposed 13h ago
I'm glad I pre-ordered my ticket because I checked the theater a few days ago for that showing and it's almost all sold out except for the front row.
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u/XLauncher 11h ago
Yeah, I bought my ticket in...July, I think and I keep forgetting about it. I have much gratitude to my past self for having the foresight to pick up a good seat on release night.
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u/Maatjuhhh 14h ago
How much did Endgame earn in presales? I see 120M in presales but that's for the worldwide opening, at least according to the internet. I can't find a figure for domestic.
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u/Youngstar9999 Walt Disney Studios 14h ago
According to Deadline sources, before Avengers: Endgame flickers even one image on a movie screen ahead of its Thursday night previews nationwide, advance domestic ticket sales for the Russo Brothers-directed Marvel sequel are estimated to be north of $120 million, with some figuring they’re as high as $140M. These figures do not come from Disney.
This is from a few days before Endgame opend.
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u/--Nightmare357-- 14h ago
I saw a thread that says BND was at $200M. Is the difference really that big?
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u/Youngstar9999 Walt Disney Studios 14h ago
Jatinder said this a few days before BND opend:
SpiderManBrandNewDay has crossed $100M in pre-sales in North America for its opening weekend.
Only the seventh film in history to do so, and there's a lot more to come.
With three more days to go, all set to move to the 2nd spot just behind AvengersEndgame ($190M+).
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u/--Nightmare357-- 14h ago
https://www.reddit.com/r/boxoffice/s/bW1XSBvPyj
Jatinder said it surpassed Endgame earning $200M+. It made over $100M in 3 days. So pre-sales are still counted even though the film is released.
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u/TheWallE 10h ago
Being over $35 Billion right now means the MCU has a chance to get to $40 Billion after Secret Wars… which would mean the MCU would have 40 movies and grossed $40 Billion, and average of 1 Billion per movie released… absolutely insane 20 year run.
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u/John111coldplayer 14h ago
What's the highest pre-sale numbers before release btw? Is it ENDGAME? or maybe BND?
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u/abellapa 14h ago
BND with 75M
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u/--Nightmare357-- 14h ago
It's not 75M. Endgame was at $120-140M. BND I'm not sure.
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u/frustrated_supersum 13h ago
only domestic how much from that 60 million ?
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u/Individual_Client175 Warner Bros. Pictures 12h ago
The entire 60 million is the domestic number
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u/frustrated_supersum 11h ago
holy shit, it might reach 100 million before December
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u/bRabb1t_ 11h ago
Endgame had more than $120M in presales, this might hit $200M, we're in uncharted waters here
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u/KurtisLochman9010 14h ago
Not surprising. First guaranteed $3B movie incoming.
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u/NotHarold8 Blumhouse 14h ago
I could see $2B but where does this becoming the first $3B film come from?
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u/abellapa 14h ago
Because it can
Endgame has 3,5B with Inflation and did 2,8B because it had Heavy competition
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u/HarlequinKing1406 Focus Features 14h ago
He's saying guaranteed though. If it's shite then it does nowhere near 3 billion.
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u/abellapa 14h ago
Obsiously its not garanteed
Its garenteed to Make 2B and almost a sure thing to surpass Spider-man to Become the third highest grossing movie of all time
But does have a decent chance at 3B
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u/SheepherderFun2258 6h ago
The 3hr run time and theaters having to share screens with another major movie are some obstacles. Endgame didn’t have to deal with the kind of direct competition that Doom will have. Theaters might break it down the 60% Doomsday and 35% Dune— that’s percentages not going towards Endgane
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u/abellapa 6h ago
There no way it Will be only 60% Doomsday
Even so Inflation helps doomsday
Doesnt have to sell as Many tickets as Endgame to surpass it
In the US for example to surpass Endgame by One Million,(895M) doomsday would Need 77,8M tickets sold in the US
Endgame sold 93,6M tickets in 2019 , huge difference
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u/Alex-C2099 13h ago
What “heavy competition”? The UglyDolls movie?
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u/abellapa 13h ago
Detective pikachu, John Will 3 , Godzilla kotm and Aladdin
Those movies put together made like 1,8B
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u/PeterFile690 13h ago
Wouldn't bad reviews kill the hype though? A lot of people loved Spiderman Brand New Day.
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u/Alex-C2099 13h ago
Only if it’s Infinity War/Endgame quality. If it’s just around the same level of No Way Home, 2.5B
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u/Alex-C2099 13h ago
Is this domestic or global?
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u/Individual_Client175 Warner Bros. Pictures 12h ago
This thread is listed as Domestic
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u/Significant-Cloud-19 14h ago
2026 is very interesting year so far. So many bombs and record breaking movies. There's also a middle ground success movies. Seems pretty well balanced year at the box-office. Also great year for horror films as well.
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u/JessicaRanbit 14h ago
The problem with your statement is this is having bonker presales in different countries and will more than likely be very OS heavy. So it's not just "Americans"...
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u/Samsun88 14h ago
Moviegoers love a good time in the theatre.
If an original is good, people will go, like they did for Obsession.
What your comment implies is people love franchise over originals.
No, people like a movie that gives them a good time, be it franchise slop or original.
You are not better for liking an original because it’s more intellectual or whatever shit you try to attribute them to have.
Hate this kind of smug take.
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u/Prestigious-Cup-6613 14h ago
The closer we get to release, the more likely it is that Doomsday is gonna make 100 million in pre sales alone