r/TikTokCringe • • 26d ago

Discussion The easiest $30k this guy ever made

On October 26, 2022, the judge ruled that Walden's contact with Land should have ended when it became clear that Land was not sleeping in the park or in need of assistance, and that the city was not responsible for Walden's actions.

On November 22, 2022, the city settled the lawsuit for $30,000.

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u/FlyAwayJai 26d ago

The fact he said, “Can you articulate a reasonable suspicion?”says this guy knows his shit.

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u/Notorious__APE 26d ago

Sidenote: It's state by state whether cops are required to actually articulate their reasonable suspicion TO YOU. In some states, it's sufficient to have reasonable suspicion without articulating (or communicating it at all) it to the suspect. And just to be clear, a cop approaching you saying "we got a call saying someone was doing X" does not meet that threshold by itself.

But yes, if someone uses the term "reasonable suspicion" and the word "articulate" is thrown in there somewhere, they likely know more about their rights than 95% of other people walking around.

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u/Company_Z 26d ago edited 26d ago

Additionally, you are lawfully required to present I.D. when asked in some states, regardless of reasonable suspicion. I'm going to infer that this state was not one of them and this guy was already aware, but it's always good to know one's legal rights to even the small stuff like this

Edit: As a couple of others have pointed out, I was mistaken. When previously searching for various "Stop and Identify" laws, the wording that each state has got me all mixed up. That's on me for not understanding

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u/aj8435 26d ago

IANAL but that is not true unless you are performing an activity that requires a ID such as a license (driving, hunting, fishing etc). Outside of that you don’t need to ID yourself in ANY state (thanks to the 4th Amendment) because that would require you to be lawfully detained which can’t happen unless you are reasonably suspected of having committed or planning to commit a crime.

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u/Call_Me_Chud 26d ago

We recently got a new law in Ohio that passengers, in addition to the driver, must present ID when pulled over.

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u/FlyAwayJai 24d ago

So you need an ID to ride in a car?

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u/Call_Me_Chud 24d ago

You must provide name, address, or dob during stops. 4th degree misdemeanor for refusal.

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u/FlyAwayJai 24d ago

Fuck that shit.

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u/exiestjw 26d ago

Additionally, you are lawfully required to present I.D. when asked in some states, regardless of reasonable suspicion.

This isn't true - there are zero states in the union where you have to present identification if there is no probable cause of a crime being committed, because thats against federal law.

If they tell you you're not free to go then you can't leave, and if they say you're under arrest you have to id, but short of that you don't have to id.

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u/TwistXJ 26d ago

I know you already put the edit, but it’s the is exactly kind of thing that screws over the average person in the US

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u/Dopplegangr1 26d ago

That's standard sovereign citizen wording. They definitely don't know their shit

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u/vermilionpulseSFW 26d ago

Nah, not really. You hear that from sov cits all the time too.

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u/MooseTurbulent8786 26d ago

Sov Cits aren't inherently illegal

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u/vermilionpulseSFW 26d ago

Where did I say they were? I was responding to someone saying just because the person in the video gets some legal jargon out that they "know their shit". Plenty of people can/do say this phrase with no idea what they are saying

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u/Righteousaffair999 26d ago

It is the getting it right in this case that should have red flagged this is a amendment auditor.