r/TikTokCringe • u/New_Libran • 26d ago

Discussion The easiest $30k this guy ever made

On October 26, 2022, the judge ruled that Walden's contact with Land should have ended when it became clear that Land was not sleeping in the park or in need of assistance, and that the city was not responsible for Walden's actions.

On November 22, 2022, the city settled the lawsuit for $30,000.

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u/ProtectionContent977 26d ago

Seems like their cops can arrest you for just about anything.

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u/Queasy_Badger9252 26d ago

No, no they cannot. The whole post is making the exact point that cops can't.

Honestly wish this would happen to me. I'd act exactly like this guy. Calm, state your rights, don't fight back when arrested. Payday incoming. He just earned 30k in probably few hours work here as unlikely he was booked for long. Probably at the station supervisor very quickly let him go.

I think a lot of cops kind of know this. But they are trying to antagonize so the person argues back and gets angry and they can slap real charges on.

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u/pinkmarsh99 26d ago

You don't want this to happen to you because you no way of knowing which way this could swing. People have been shot because they were sleeping in their cars. This shouldn't happen at all.

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u/flexxipanda 26d ago

Not to mention the whole stress and effort until the settlement.

Its not like he got 30k for free upsidupsi.

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u/GoodDogBrent 26d ago

breonna taylor was sleeping in her home

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u/Waylander0719 26d ago

They literally can. And in this video did.

The fact the guy got 30k of taxpayer money later doesn't change that fact or stop repeat behavior by the cops who abuse their power.

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u/SuckingOnChileanDogs 26d ago

Yes, yes they can. And they did. Doesn't mean that the charge will stick, but they sure can arrest you and drive you down to the station for whatever the fuck they want.

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u/JoeyJoeC 26d ago

Exactly. The cops got away with it. Tax payers paid for their poor judgement/training/what ever you call it.

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u/phanmo 26d ago

There should be some kind personal accountability in this type of situation, not just institutional accountability, otherwise cops will never learn.

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u/GGgreengreen 26d ago

Honestly might be a good compromise. No pay for the week if you violate someone's rights

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u/ryegye24 26d ago

Best version of this I've ever heard is require each officer to carry liability insurance. If you're the cause of a lost lawsuit, the insurance pays it out and your premiums go up. If it happens repeatedly either the insurance providers won't work with you anymore or the premiums they require make it unaffordable to stay in that line of work.

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u/Event-Forsaken 26d ago

Here me out; this would make officers hesitant to do their jobs when an officer is actually needed. I understand that may be the goal of some people, but like it or not, we need effective police officers to keep crime down.

I completely agree with the concept of accountability, especially for violating our rights, and I don't believe the public should have to foot the bill for their mistakes.

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u/GGgreengreen 26d ago

The public should foot the bill for drastically more education required to be a police officer. They should swear an oath, and be liable for violating that oath. The education equips them to consent to the oath.

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u/AutoRedux 26d ago

If you can't do your job, you shouldn't be in that job

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u/Sleep-pee 26d ago

You would think the institution would enforce some kind of personal accountability since they have to pay out.

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u/Unique-Yoghurt4170 26d ago

The ruling class doesn't want cops to learn. The purpose of a system is what it does, cops are supposed to act this way.

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u/unknownSubscriber 26d ago

City settles civil suit from 2018 incident | Daily Gate City - Keokuk, Iowa | mississippivalleypublishing.com

$27k was covered by insurance. Seems like taxpayers paid about $3k of it.

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u/unknownSubscriber 26d ago

That premium was being paid either way. We don't have any information on whether this case caused increase rates for the city, it likely didn't. Not sure why we are searching for more outrage when there is plenty here already.

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u/unknownSubscriber 26d ago

No response now? Just handing out downvotes once it was shown you didn't know what you were talking about? I at least gave some evidence for why its unlikely to have had much impact, you just gave vibes and insults based on how your car insurance works. If you have more info to show rates went up please share and I will apologize.

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u/unknownSubscriber 26d ago

I feel like you are being difficult for no reason, and now making personal attacks.

It looks like Keokuk participates in the Iowa Communities Assurance Pool, which is a public entity and designed to be insulated from pricing spikes. Again, we don't know for sure, but they pay hundreds of thousands into the pool, a $27k payout is *unlikely* to have any impact.

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u/4_fortytwo_2 26d ago

No but a lot more cops all doing this kind of shit put together do have an impact.

And the actual point is simply that in the end tax payers will pay this and the idiot cop will likely see zero consequences.

Trying to argue "well the insurance gets paid no matter if something happens or not" as a way to argue taxpayers are not the ones paying is just dumb. If cops wouldnt consistently do this type of shit the insurance would not be needed or at be least cheaper, that is for sure.

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u/degenfish_HG 26d ago

You can beat the case, you can't beat the ride

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u/Kinetic_Strike 26d ago

There's the old saying, "you can beat the rap, but you can't beat the ride."

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u/Thehelloman0 26d ago

Yeah exactly. If a cop doesn't like you they can fuck with you even though they know the charge won't stick. But they still get the satisfaction of wasting hours or days of your time.

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u/ScreamingDizzBuster 26d ago

cops can't

What are you talking about. They arrested him in the video.

They're not supposed to but they absolutely can and do.

The inconvenience of fighting a false arrest should not be imposed on anyone any more than a false arrest itself.

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u/Emergency-Feed2760 26d ago

Yeah that's why the giu stood and turned to allow cuffs easily. We should all remember that once a cop says those words "you're under arrest" then avoiding it is an actual crime of resisting arrest.

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u/sexy-man-doll 26d ago

Resisting arrest is the most bullshit charge ever. Other countries recognize that living things have an INSTINCTUAL DESIRE to seek to be free so it's merely human behavior to try to resist being handcuffed but in America, resisting arrest can easily be the ONLY thing you get charged with

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u/Terrh 26d ago

We should all remember that once a cop says those words "you're under arrest" then avoiding it is an actual crime of resisting arrest.

This is not always the case but it is smart to act like it is in the moment.

But if you are charged with resisting you are not necessarily guilty of any crime if the arrest itself was not legal.

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u/Phyraxus56 26d ago

It not the color of the shirt they find objectionable

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u/-Shoebill- 26d ago

Especially if you're black somewhere where there's a high chance of getting a racist judge which is the case in many parts of the land of the fee.

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u/Specialbrowny 26d ago

But they did still arrest him…. Regardless, if it was justified or not they took away his freedom. If he fought back, they could have kill him.

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u/Merk7_18 26d ago edited 26d ago

You literally see him get arrested in the video the point is they do it any ways.... and if any accountability is held you can be sure it will be after the fact and something they don't face personally like a cash settlement that's not real accountability for the officer he should have to serve the time he thought that man should of when he was cuffing him right... They have to properly be held accountable in some manner. Cash settlement is not that.

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u/primefart 26d ago

They can't but they DO.

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u/Ranger1617 26d ago

The justice system would need to be functional if you think the end result is always a 30k payout. If you think the US has a functional system that is fair and equitable, then I value your idealism.

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u/haskell_rules 26d ago

Don't sleep on the bench. If he was sleeping that would have been illegal in many municipalities. That's why he was careful to say he wasn't sleeping and was looking at the sky.

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u/Available_Actuary977 26d ago

As the saying goes, "You can beat the rap, but not the ride."

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u/jrolls81 26d ago

I mean, I’m sure there was more work and stress and harassment after those few hours of being arrested before he actually got $30k handed over to him

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u/ElProfeGuapo 26d ago

"The whole post is making the exact point that cops can't."

He was literally arrested, bro. Did you watch the video to the end?

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u/Any-Photograph5525 26d ago

I don't know if we watched the same video or not, but I saw him get arrested

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u/Ecw218 26d ago

You’d get harassed endlessly by the same PD. Not worth it.

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u/ReignofKindo25 26d ago

This happened to me but the cop was a detective having a mental break and not wearing a body cam so I couldn’t prove my case.

Cop thought he saw me being dropped off from a van to case the police station when in reality there was no van my car had broken down nearby and walked there because I had to poop

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u/Micronator 26d ago

What are you talking about? He literally was arrested.

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u/USDXBS 26d ago

This cop wasn't arrested.

He got away with kidnapping someone.

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u/Gingevere 26d ago

No, no they cannot. The whole post is making the exact point that cops can't.

Did you not watch the video? They walked that guy off in handcuffs and faced no consequences. He got a settlement later, but he was in fact arrested for nothing.

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u/MouseMouseM 26d ago

I need to watch this video 20 times a day. My anxiety and people pleasing would take over. this

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u/thoughtforce 26d ago

His attorney would have earned a big chunk of that $30k.

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u/Kaladin-of-Gilead 26d ago

No, no they cannot. The whole post is making the exact point that cops can't.

It's extemly easy to get detained (key here is detained, not arrested), but very hard to get charged with anything.

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u/alltheword 26d ago

I mean the guy was arrested. He had to go to jail. Spend who knows how long in there and then go through the courts to get justice. You know what happened to the cops? Nothing. So yah, they can arrest you for just about anything because they will suffer no consequences.

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u/Unique-Yoghurt4170 26d ago

No, no they cannot. The whole post is making the exact point that cops can't.

Brother, the man got arrested in this video. Cops can arrest you for literally anything.

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u/joazito 26d ago

If there was no video, things might have worked out very differently.

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u/AutoRedux 26d ago

They literally just did arrest him for whatever.

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u/ChiefTacoObrien 26d ago

No, no they cannot. The whole post is making the exact point that cops can't.

Except this video shows they LITERALLY DID.

What the fuck video did you just watch? Because I watched the cops put a guy in cuffs for looking at the sky.

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u/rbrgr83 26d ago

We're literally watching a video of this happening and the officer getting away with it.

Cop doesn't give 3 shits that the members of his community now have to cover his 30K settlement. He's doing fine, he's the Sarge now and he's making $60k/yr.

So in what way did the Cop not get away with this, in an instance where it's indisputable to millions of ppl what he did?

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u/fox112 26d ago

You could also spend thousands of dollars and hundreds of hours fighting for your rights and get absolutely nothing.

Why are all the comments acting like this is guy is lucky and something good happened? This fucking sucks.

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u/Ok-disaster2022 26d ago

Cops aren't required to know they law. If they think you broke a law that doesn't exist they can still arrest you and then if you resist illegal arrest they can kill you. 

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u/yesthatdaniel 23d ago

That is such a bonkers thing to say

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u/ElProfeGuapo 26d ago

Yes, that is correct

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u/Wise-Dependent3476 26d ago

I’m in the UK but it does appear that way, all they have to say is ‘we received a call from a 3rd party…. and so we got to investigate..” and they feel that gives them full power to ask you anything

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u/dirty_cuban 26d ago

I would hazard to say the UK is worse because cops can call basically any kind of behavior "suspicious" under the terrorism act and it gives them the legal right to stop you, question you, and demand ID.

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u/dirty_cuban 26d ago

That $30,000 settlement begs to differ

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u/DedBirdGonnaPutItOnU 26d ago

Consider what it took to get that $30,000.

Logan Land was arrested in June of 2019. They actually took it all the way to court, so he had to take time out of work. The court case was nearly two months later, August 27, 2019. The judge cleared him on all charges.

Two years later, June 2021 (on the anniversary it sounds like) Land sues. That case took a year. November 22, 2022 was when he got his settlement.

So he was arrested June 2019. Three and a half years later, he gets $30,000 for it.

How much did it cost to get that $30k?

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u/dirty_cuban 26d ago

I don’t see your point. All you’ve done is explain how the legal system works.

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u/yesthatdaniel 23d ago

Settlements don't beg anything. There was no other verdict.