Just a guess. Gym saw a guy recording behind a person not knowing it was a father son. Maybe they have a no recording in the gym policy.
They overreacted, called the police, and it turned into an issue of "a business asked you to leave the premises" and the guy kind of refusing to leave. Just a non biased look at it though.
But if they got a membership there, it should have just been "hey no recording man" and that's it
so what happened was the guy brought his son in and they asked for a valid id. his son is a teenage and doesn't have a drivers license. dad showed his id and his son's school record on their online portal. they fussed back and forth because management didn't want to accept it but not accepting it is in clear violation of their own guest policy.
now it gets murky because the video starts with them working out BUT we find out no one asked him to leave so because of that i'm guessing they allowed them in and then took it back and escalated via calling the police.
so nothing to do with recording. the comment right below yours by u/ onlytinglef has links to everything.
Had a similar issue with my kid. The issue was that I had to sign a “I won’t sue you “ agreement, but instead of telling us that, we had a condescending jerk question us. I was happy to sign the paperwork after we were treated like thieves. Afterwords I cancelled my membership ( that I had for 6 years and went maybe 4 times). My son and daughter also cancelled. We now go to the local rec center that is super chill.
I once cancelled my PLANET FITNESS membership. I walked in, said, "I want to cancel my membership" while expecting a fight, and the bored girl working the counter said "Ok".
If you're in CA, there's a law that makes it so that once you want to cancel a subscription, you can cancel it online. I didn't know until I saw on reddit. People were advising others if they wanted to cancel a gym membership to change their address to one in CA, and the other one cancel online.
But EU and consumer protections ... they changed the law and now cancelling must be accepted as easily and by the same means as signing up. So it's really really easy to cancel now.
A few gyms were a bit dense and tried to ignore it, but after losing in court and being forced to pay the court cost now it's no longer an issue anywhere :P
I had a membership where I could always bring an extra person for free. When my son was 12, he wanted to start going with me so I’d take him and supervise him on the weight machines. After a few months, I had an employee refuse to allow us in the floor because he claimed it was a state law that no one under 13 was allowed on the floor. I cancelled my membership and joined our local sportsplex that allows kids as young as 10 into the gym with adult supervision.
I live in Alabama and we have some really stupid laws on the books but not even my dumbass state is gonna go to the trouble of making it illegal for a 12 year old to go to the gym with his dad.
Often it's not a law but an insurance issue. Their insurance won't cover anyone under a certain age. Employees often don't know the difference and just assume it's a law.
Sometimes the company or a manager tells you something and you just go with it because you don’t care enough to research it.
I worked for a retail chain and found out later that several of our “store policies” weren’t actually corporate policies, but things that our store managers came up with.
So wild to me they came at you with a condescending tone, when the request is a reasonable and understandable one to begin with (especially if it's a policy because it's already happened to them). I just don't see the value on their end in not be up front and direct about that issue with people that mention they plan on bringing their family on with them.
I can imagine why they didn’t want to accept it. In May I went with my white girlfriend to get our driving permits. Her mom was with her, my brother (we’re native) with me (he was my guardian). We had the exact same documentation except I had one extra, my tribal ID. We got called to different windows at the same time. Ten minutes later they snapped her picture and printed her permit. Nearly an hour later, after getting supervisors involved multiple times, I finally got mine.
Things like this aren’t random or misunderstandings.
So he didn't do anything wrong and they gym guy called the cops on him. Which can get a Black man killed. Naturally, he's upset and angry. And all the people commenting that he's the one who must have done something wrong, and "what happened before the video?" are showing their bias, unconscious or not. They have no information but assumed that it was the Black man's fault. Disgusting.
Of course it was a white dude.. Must be really scary to be a POC in the states, when every police encounter could be a danger to get arrested or get shotted. Only because a white Karen has an attitude..
So is the risk here that they have no actual evidence that the minor he was training was his son (due to not having an ID) and not some random youth? I can see that be a significant liability/insurance issue for the gym if a minor gets hurt there and they later find out that the minor didn't have permission to be there in the first place. I don't think it would be necessary to call the cops on thos though, just explain it to the guy, then call the cops if it continues to escalate several levels above that.
They had a virtual id, just not a physical one. Most kids don't have a drivers licenses, which is what they were specifically requesting. Also student athletes go and work out at public gyms a the time so having minors in the facility isn't typically a problem, they just need a parent to sign the waiver. They had the parent there so I doubt that was an issue.
I think this started as bruised ego on the gym owners part and he retaliated and escalated with racism.
He obviously ignored the staff and deemed the ID worthy, even though they told him it’s not. So yeah u can’t do that.
And something doesn’t make sense here, if they only accept a drivers license then it means kids under 16 are not allowed. Either that or their policy must allow for some way to verify a 14 year old, if they actually do allow kids in the gym.
I wonder what that policy actually is, and I’ll bet it’s public knowledge. Maybe dad forgot or didn’t realize or whatever, but you can’t just ignore staff and do what you want anyway. Race baiting title, just bring valid ID for ur son bro, no one cares that ur black.
student athletes without drivers licenses work out at crunch all the time, they just need a waiver signed by a parent on file. the parent is there so getting a waiver wouldn't have been the problem.
"valid ID" varies and it sounds like there isn't consistent application of the rule on file. a school id is often considered a valid id for someone under 18 and is typically the only piece of ID a kid would have (unless they have a passport). The school ID was provided but it was a virtual card on the school portal and not a physical card. Now, if they TSA/federal government can accept my drivers licenses virtually, then Crunch Fitness can accept a virtual school id.
and he didn't ignore the staff, they confirmed that they did NOT ask him to leave. so someone let them in and then doubled back. which means they escalated before the basic first step. we have the data that shows police escalate frivolously with everyone but engage in excessive force and brutality even more so when interacting with black people. calling the cops when you could have just asked him to leave while knowing that black people have been shot and killed for way less is indeed racial violence
Did the OP follow the policy? Or did the staff just free style it and double triple down on it? Cus if they did then OP just get the guy fired no need to do a race bait tik tok. I’m just trying to think what most likely actually happened cus all we have is OPs take on it. Ur acting like the OP only has to listen to staff if they say, “sir can u please leave”. They can also say sorry he can’t come in and it means the same thing. It means the minor cannot use the gym. The dad has a valid ID he can work out all he wants they can’t kick him out. It’s the son that’s the issue. The fact he’s like, but they never said leave, is like ok bro what about all the other stuff they said did u ignore all that? U really think they said, “that’s not a valid id but go ahead and start working out together”? Ridiculous take. And cut the shit dude the police were fully cordial, just doing their job. It’s literally all on video. They got called out because someone was refusing to listen to the staff. Maybe he only had to leave after he caused a scene. Maybe at first they said u can work out no problem be he (the son) can’t. We don’t know cus it’s not on video but I find that ppl are more likely normal rather than racist for no reason, especially if they’re some young dudes working at crunch fitness.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the Crunch guest policy states:
"Certain memberships have free guest privileges. The best way to find out about your club and/or membership guest policy is to contact your location of interest"
So it seems to be determined by the specific location, and I don't think a school ID is considered a state issued ID, which their guest pass requires (different from a member bringing a guest, but still relevant to the conversation, as perhaps some locations require it for members bringing a guest. Just a thought)
If he wasn't asked to leave and they just called the police that's definitely not the way to go about the situation, there seems to be a lot of missing context here though. I want to read what u/ onlytinglef wrote but I can't seem to find the specific comment your referring to.
he wasn't asked to leave, the staff confirm as much in the video available. and it looks like the comment was deleted which sucks lmao they had all the ig links and everything.
At what point do the staff confirm that he wasn't asked to leave in the video? I can see them talking and gesturing but I can't hear what they're saying
I expect crunch fitness will be firing people as this makes the company look bad and rightly so. If he can show a white man and son working out it is easy to show racism.
Rather than ask him to leave they decided to call the donut patrol to hopefully remove him.
Yeah they can’t trespass someone unless they’ve been asked to leave first. None of my guests have ever been asked for an ID either sooo I think the staff were in the wrong, but it’s their discretion as a predicate business to ask anybody to leave.
I’m pretty sure the cheap membership is what attracts them and all of the people filming at the location nearest me is one of the reasons I went back to Lifetime so I know for a fact it’s not “too crowded” to record.
They arent revoking his membership because to get outta them payments he needs to send a hand written request signed in blood and notarized by the president to the gym ownership via carrier pigeon and have it arrive between 2:15pm and 2:25pm on an odd-dated Wednesday of an even numbered month
I was at a crunch recently and a woman was crying explaining to the dude at the desk that she had come by 4 times to cancel her membership (cant cancel via email/online if you aren't from CA) and their managers were always "in a meeting" and unable to help her as they sat in their guest tables together 10 feet away.
So you aren't wrong. This place is definitely going to be the new planet/la fitness trapped in you in a membership we don't want to let you out of
In 2024, the FTC made a rule that companies had to make it as easy to cancel as it was to sign up. Unfortunately, the courts struck it down in July of last year.
Not sure if it works everywhere, but when I lived in NV and wanted to cancel my gym membership without a fuss all it took was going onto the website and changing my address to a random one in CA. Did that and hit refresh and suddenly there was a button to cancel on the page.
I had to get my bank involved to get out of a local gym membership....after I moved away. Just showed proof of attempts to cancel. It was easier than jumping through the gym's hoops.
I sent 3 letters already because I moved and none around me yet they still got me active at this point I'm gonna just sue for back payments and hassle. Especially since I've sent it through postal and recorded it
Why would they need to ask him to leave if they already told him he can’t work out without a proper ID. They already told him he couldn’t be there. Guy broke the rule by ignoring and working out anyway - then the old, “but you never said to leave”. Selective hearing I guess?
lol the comment he’s referring to starts with “just a guess”. Dude asked for an explanation when we get none of the actual confrontation and all of the fallout on video. Of course it’s all ifs. The fuck are you on about?
Seems from the video that they didn't tell him to leave at any time until the very end, and specifically told him he COULDN'T leave(presumably because they had already called the police) earlier. Just to clear up that portion.
Emphasis on the "just a guess" part. Too many people take their stories and run with them. Sometimes it's best to acknowledge what we don't know. Filling in the missing spaces with speculation can cause more problems than they solve.
I think maybe his son doesn't have a membership, so father's just brought him in for the day, and because his son doesn't have a membership, he's not covered by insurance or whatever, so they've asked him to leave. And they haven't handled it properly at all.
NO, the Devil in details: Yes, Crunch Gym allows you to bring a guest every day, but only if you have a top-tier Peak Results or Signature membership that includes unlimited guest privileges. Lower-tier memberships like the Base plan do not include free daily guest passes
Interesting that your 'guess' invents a cover story that supports the business over the black guy, while glossing over any possible malign intentions. And that your conjecture is unrelated to the facts, but might instead reveal something about you.
That’s a terrible guess, even if you are right, that’s a terrible guess. He probably brought his son and his son doesn’t have a membership. Which my Dad and Uncle used to do with me and my cousins all the time, a couple times we got caught by corny staff and we just paid for the day, most the time we just walked right in.
Guy is recording behind a teen. Guesses don't have to be 100% fact. They are by definition something you presume before evidence, complete facts, or certainty
But someone in the comments posted an hour ago what really happened.
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