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Arizona police violently tackled a woman onto a metal bike after she watched them from a public sidewalk
Like I know ideally you shouldn't try to insert yourself in an arrest, but c'mon wasn't this too much? Was the punch necessary? Like, (not that im surprised) the people defending them on X are sickening, with one saying he would have tased her... btw, with no much context to what happened asides from this. One person said it right: "People who support the police will justify them breaking into their house and killing their mother, so there really isn't much you can say to change their minds." This to me is just unnecessary abuse of power.
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I just hope the cop goes to jail and gets violently attacked the same way he attacked others. Exactly the same way. He deserves to be feel fear for life.
It is wild how we’ve allowed standard police procedure to include beating the living shit out of people or even murdering them.
Way too often they investigate the cop’s actions and find “this falls within defined guidelines.” Any other first world country this is an instant firing.
Instead we offload cops’ responsibility onto insurance companies and taxpayers.
And don’t EVER forget that some Republican lawmakers, the police and police Union all tried to blame the citizens who saw the death of George Floyd for “not jumping in and stopping” his death. Once they saw that narrative was going nowhere, it soon disappeared….
I'm american, and i get enraged by the corruption of basically all of our law enforcement agencies, and doubly so when smooth-brained mouth breathers with the reading comprehension of a blind rock go off about how i 'd change my tune if i needed cops. I've needed cops before. You know what happened? They made it way worse each time while carefully avoiding doing their actual job.
ACAB, even the "good ones" because they do nothing about the bad ones.
With Trump and Ice and Stephen Miller -- our country has taken a whole new level to cruelty and violence towards our citizens and humans in general- there is no level of decency that these fascists won't cross. The ends justify the means for Trump/Miller/Ice/Holman/Vought etc.
“The officer felt like he was in imminent danger”… the fact that even with video evidence, officer still say this and it is considered a valid defense when they are assessing the incident. It’s insane. Like the most recent incident in Denver.
After sweeping her leg while holding both arms. There was no way for her to brace for impact. This is a massive lawsuit waiting to have it.
We need to move towards individual insurance for police officers, the department still pays the bill, but incidents and payout records follow the individual. It would make it allot harder for officers to just jump to another job if they get in trouble.
"Sorry Joe, we can't hire you, insurance says you were involved in 2 lawsuit payouts, this department just can't afford to pay your premium. "
And he purposefully steered her toward the bike knowing it would do more damage.
The big problem in the US is that the police can get away with this shit. If he gets fired, he is immediately hired by the next town. When I used to teach, I had to have a valid teaching certificate for each province I taught in. Without that certificate, I could not be employed as a teacher. The police need the same thing - if you do crap like this, you lose your license. No police license, no police job!
Local reports state she was leaned in trying to inform the cops that the person they already had down had a torn tendon and physically could not put his arms fully behind his back, and that he was not resisting. She got beat up for telling cops not to beat up that person essentially.
That's not what she was saying, but the police were arresting the guy who was just trying to hold his friend back, and the violent response to her yelling is disgusting.
Here's something not getting enough attention: when they talk to the white guy (who they call the "victim") he says that they never even touched him. The cop continues to push the narrative that he was assaulted bc his pizzas got knocked to the ground. Bc they had to justify this use of force on what would have otherwise been normal late-night bullshit, where someone was a dick, his friend grabbed him and apologized to the guy, and everyone went about their business.
Also none of what I saw merits her getting taken down by one person and he'd down by two others when she already stopped moving. It's not like she was dressed for a fight either.
The 40% statistic is based on a questionaire that described specific actions, rather than asking if they were domestic abusers. So, at least 40% according to that study.
My beautiful, kind friend was killed by her husband, in their home, while their young children were awake at how. He was a fucking cop. And get this - serving in a domestic violence task force. I'm not kidding.
The guy who intentionally pushed an innocent woman onto a bike and then used his body weight to push her into the bike in order to hurt her as much as possible before punching her in the face? You might be right.
There was a married cop couple in my neighborhood and they went on vacation to mexico once and the wife came back in a box. Weirdly, his sister was posting to the wife's facebook a few days after when she died. Then he was seen around town with a woman with two small kids within a couple months.
Yeah. He didn’t even hesitate to slug her. Full fist. He will claim she was the aggressor and tbh, she should have just laid down after he shoved her the first time. Would have been a clean lawsuit.
It's never a clean lawsuit. The cops are going to claim she ran up on them, he was trying to hold the guys legs (the one who was literally not fighting back). It's not going to matter because the officer will say he didnt know what weapons she had, she just ran up on them. Judges will not go against "cop safety" unless it is 110% blatent.
I think you answered your own question - they both wanted to mount her, and did. One even stayed mounted, after he punched her in the face for good measure.
Police brutality is how they let out their aggression over never getting laid / being married to a woman that has hated them since they weren’t in high school anymore, hating your life, having guilt over covering up crimes / making false arrests / getting into the powder in the evidence locker, knowing they’ll be stuck doing this until they collect their pension, having everyone hate them… you new here?
Police officers should be required to take psychological exams, counseling and other annual courses. I also believe that they should be stricter on who they allow to become one in the first place.
They should face steeper consequences than the average citizen for sure. So should lawyers judges and politicians. And the higher up the pyramid you are, the consequences should get even steeper.
But honestly we need to get rid of police and do something else entirely. I won't pretend to be informed enough to say what else it should be. I do believe it needs to involve mental health liaisons and other people trained in deescilaton.
“But who will you call when someone’s trying to kill you?” Is regularly commented under stories of people calling the cops to help and the cops beating the victims upon arrival
That’s way too generous. Hours is usually the case, sometimes days because it’s not their job to care about anyone worth below 7 figures or anything worth below 6 figures.
"Laws are threats made by the dominant socioeconomic-ethnic group in a given nation. It’s just the promise of violence that’s enacted and the police are basically an occupying army.”
They need to read The People's History Of The United States. They show you unflinchingly who's side the police are on. Spoilers they beat and kill you for business owners.
The blurb “to serve and protect” was born of needed PR repair. The reputation of so many police units had soured because of shit like this. Someone thought that it was a good idea to use a friendly tagline to make the people feel better.
More police officers need to be fired and/or jailed. They wield too much power for shit like this to be tolerated. We wouldn't tolerate that type of behavior from the public. We should tolerate it even less from law enforcement.
I remember when the cameras on phones started being able to record videos and they tried to do everything in their power to make it a violation to film cops.
Why do you think David Brouillette turned off his body camera before murdering Johan Sebastián Durán Guerrero? David Brouillette, who was also accused by his ex-wife of pointing a loaded gun at her head and throwing boiling water on her and their daughter.
The act of turning off the camera should be an automatic life sentence as far as I'm concerned and that's only because I'm fundamentally against the death penalty
Adverse inference is one of the penalties for spoliation of evidence. Following that logic, Brouillette should be presumed a first degree murderer and sentenced accordingly.
Last time I was in jail (never charged, so you can fuck off with the whole ‘don’t do the crime’ shit) a bunch of piece of shit CO’s were all lamenting about cameras and joking about what the used to get away with. 80% of the profession are literal monsters, the remaining 20% keep their head down and wait until they’re eligible for their pensions. Zero honor in American policing.
I got arrested once, and the cop not only groped me, but he also put the cuffs on me so tight that they were incredibly painful and cut off circulation, and just sat in the car with me for twenty minutes listening to me beg for him to loosen the cuffs because it was so painful. My wrists were numb for months after that ordeal.
She’ll get a great settlement, but not from the police.
She and all of the people police brutalize get those payouts without much of a fight because it comes out of our pockets and not theirs. I bet if police had to pay settlements from the UNION that has emboldened them, they’d stop this shit real fast.
The police and government are supposed to work for us, they dont. Police should be voted in and out. It shouldn't be a privilege to induce tyranny on their people. Vile human beings drunk on power. The tables are turning....
None of it was... that was just blatant overkill. I hope and I say this so loosely that that cop gets fucked up during a call or something. This video sickens me
I had same reaction, they started making it sexual when more than one of them mounted her like that. But by then they had already punched her right in the face as hard as they could. Just totally gross behavior and completely unnecessary in every way. These cops don't deserve to breath the same air that regular law abiding people do.
At first I was like get away from them while they are doing whatever they are doing. Never come up behind an officer when they are detaining someone. Then he shoved her, which was a bit much. She was still back from him and he opted to tackle her and then start punching her in the face. He needs to be fired and held accountable. These bad cops are the reason people hate all cops.
I downloaded it to go frame by frame, and cop #2 goes straight for her ass with his left hand as he comes in. It happens over the course of 45 frames, starting at 22:10. He feels from her ass down to her thigh. This contributed absolutely nothing towards restraining her.
That sounded crazy so i googled it. That number was from a small survey in 1990 that said 40% of police reported at least one incident of marital conflict involving physical aggression by either partner during their relationship.
"After being shoved back a second time, Bonner allegedly raised her fists and aggressively approached an officer in a fighting stance. When the officer tried to place her under arrest, both fell to the ground during the struggle. According to the arrest report, Bonner then struck the officer in the face five to six times while he was on top of her attempting to gain control. The officer responded by "striking Bonner once in the face" to stop the assault, allowing police to finally place her in handcuffs."
Local media has a serious bias problem toward favoring the cops story, and they should pretty much never be taken seriously.
They usually just copy and paste department/union releases verbatim.
If a local outlet is critical of the police, they stop getting tips from them, which means always getting a scooped, so therefore they always bend the knee.
True free press is almost mythical.
Sadly, the vast majority of people will swallow the official story and never verify.
Literally none of that is true. Actually, him striking her in the face is true but literally nothing else plays out that way. Luckily there’s video otherwise I’m guessing this would just be taken as fact.
pushed her, tackled her, punched her in the face, pushed up her skirt to expose her, then grabbed and manipulated her bare legs before sitting on top of her ass while it was exposed.
they were very clearly getting off on beating and assaulting this woman. i’m disgusted, but not even remotely surprised.
if this is the type of shit cops do in public, imagine what they do in private.
I recognize that officer. I work around town and see lots of officers come into my stores. Damn
Edit: guys this is one police officer out of hundreds that ive seen across the valley. And to clarify i probably shouldve used past tense "worked" instead of work. Also, its not fair to put my employees at risk like that, they depend on the safety the police department provides in rough areas.
In Cortesluna v. Leon (9th Cir. 2020), the federal court governing Arizona ruled that kneeling heavily on the back of a suspect who is already down or non-resisting constitutes excessive force.
Everything we witnessed is illegal on how these officers handled themselves.
The public is really getting to a tipping point on these paramilitary police tactics. The cops aren’t ready for what happens if they actually incite the mob.
Cops are saying she attacked first and they have body cam footage to prove it but that certainly isn’t what we see. I hope they release it so we can all see this maneuver that this video didn’t capture.
“After being shoved back a second time, Bonner allegedly raised her fists and aggressively approached an officer in a fighting stance. When the officer tried to place her under arrest, both fell to the ground during the struggle. According to the arrest report, Bonner then struck the officer in the face five to six times while he was on top of her attempting to gain control. The officer responded by "striking Bonner once in the face" to stop the assault, allowing police to finally place her in handcuffs.” Fox10News
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