r/SipsTea • • 9h ago

SMH Thoughts on this?

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u/Terminal_Insomnia_ 6h ago edited 6h ago

Toyota recently made a $12k pickup truck that has no bells or whistles. There's no touch screen and the windows are manual.

Y'all are getting fleeced because they refuse to make cheaper cars, and prevent them from being imported too.

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u/GarethBaus 5h ago

Yeah, there are still affordable vehicles outside of the US m, but they are usually subject to massive tariffs so they aren't generally an option in the US.

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u/PlasticStJesus 5h ago

If Toyota sold their Hilux work trucks they would absolutely own the market. But US manufacturers know that. So they have been tariffed to the point that Toyota doesn't even try.

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u/skbugco 4h ago

And that particular tariff goes all the way back to the early 1960’s, because we (the US) were selling chicken super cheap to Europe. So then mostly France and West Germany tariffed the imported chicken. To retaliate, POTUS LBJ put a 25% tariff on all imported light trucks (and brandy, and potato starch- which were dropped eventually). Most of the auto imports tariffs were also dropped, but not the HiLux, because none of it is produced in the US.

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u/MNmostlynice 3h ago

Just spent a week in Ireland. The mid size trucks are awesome there, especially the Hilux.

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u/Available_Copy9433 2h ago

Even with tariffs it's only $15,500. It doesn't meet safety and emissions regulation standards for current US vehicles. Most of the "amazingly cheap" cars of foreign markets exist because of less regulation.

https://www.autonocion.com/us/toyota-truck-12500-us/

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u/LearningT0Fly 48m ago

Also, we (USA) require all cars to have crumple zones/airbags, robust safety and electronics like backup cameras standard.

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u/TheDarkness33 5h ago

Trump wins again!

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u/GarethBaus 4h ago

The excessive tariffs on light trucks predate trump by quite a bit although they are a great example of why we already knew that poorly implemented tariffs do not benefit the country before he made it worse.

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u/TheDarkness33 3h ago

not wanting to be that guy but honestly speaking, is there ANYTHING he made better? lmfao

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u/GarethBaus 3h ago

There are a decent handful of good things he has done but they are mostly overwhelmed by the harm of his other actions since he has done a lot of things that damage the US significantly with no obvious benefit.

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u/TheDarkness33 3h ago

Im european, thats why i am asking. The bad shit news arrives way faster that any good doing, if he even has any.

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u/GarethBaus 3h ago edited 3h ago

Most of the good things are more of a broken clock being right twice a day situation like signing a bill that happens to have a section that reduced the mandatory minimum sentences on certain non violent crimes(the US has one of the highest per capita prison populations in the world in part because it has really high mandatory minimum prison sentences for relatively minor crimes). As far as I can tell reducing the number of non violent people who end up stuck in prison for long periods regardless of whether or not the people sentencing them actually deserve it probably wasn't actually Trump's priority but he did sign that particular bill.

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u/CalmTheAngryVoice 3h ago

Depends on one's definition of "better"...