She fucking looked right at the camera, stopped and then started fiddling with her phone before they came towards her. She was blocking the photo. And normally I would be all about it, but this chick wasn’t even doing anything wrong or cringe. She was just trying to take a wide shot of her and the art.
I feel like it took me way too long to find a sensible comment here. I will happily agree that influencers mostly suck. Taking this picture/video would have hurt nobody. The lady just wanted a good shot of her with the art and that old biddy took it upon herself to ruin it. There was no need for it. The influencer lady waited until the area was mostly cleared and was not interfering with anyone. I just don’t understand all the hate she seems to be getting.
Dont you think, especially given that the old lady is old, and thus likely bit slower in the head, when she looked at the camera, it might have been a moment of "The fuck is that? Ah some camera thing. Where was I? Lets check the phone."
Just because she looked at the camera, does not mean that she put the pieces together and realized that she is blocking a photo. And at least my own experiences with the elderly, make me think that this is what happened, rather than any actual malice was intended.
Yes, especially if it was a selfie with a tripod or some kind of setup. She sees it but doesn't know what she is looking at (blank stare) and then she sees the family coming and moves to the right side of the stairs, as one does in the US, to let them pass, while finishing up looking at her message. Then she moves on. This had NOTHING to do with the girl up above, who she wasn't even really aware of.
Just because someone is a senior doesn't mean they are "a bit slower in the head". Grow up.
Anyone could have unintentionally blocked the photo. Young people, their faces buried in their screens, are far more oblivious of their surroundings than older folks.
Don't get me wrong, I didnt mean to imply that I could not be as oblivious as the old lady. Actually the reason why I wrote the comment is because I absolutely can imagine myself being unintentionally just as oblivious as the old lady. I am not trying to suggest that I am any better here.
Dunno, to me it seems like you are trying to make a big deal out of nothing here.
Yes indeed she has a smart phone in hand. She is aware smarphones exist and she obviously can use one herself.
Your point is what?
Therefore she obviously must be able to discern whether some random phone on some stand aimed in her general direction must mean that its a picture in progress, which she is blocking? Surely its not possible that it would be lets say some timelapse photo? Surely it cant be anything fucking else as far as she is concerned, and that her brain didnt run the whatsthephonepurpose.exe function deeply enough? /s
She was already reaching to her phone well before she stopped, what looked like intentional blocking of the photo when she sidestepped was obviously to let the passerbys pass, and she was not able to see the girl behind her either way.
Is it possible that she did this deliberately? Yes. Is it something that can be proven beyond reasonable doubt that she did that deliberately? Absolutely not.
Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.
I just disagree. I don't even think she was particularly aware of the lady who passed her on the stairs. Out of sight out of mind. And then she sees someone below or some kind of tripod rig for selfies, but it doesn't even register on her face at all. She looks blankly, steps aside for people coming up, finishes her phone business and moves on. At most, she delayed lady's selfie by what, 30 seconds? Calm down, y'all
That would be ignorance. She was ignorant of her surroundings. Again something I was taught, by a woman of this woman’s generation, to be aware of at all times. So at best she was ignorant of her surroundings resulting in her actions being wrong and at worst she intentionally blocked the camera. Considering she LOOKS AT THE CAMERA and positions herself in a way that blocks the young woman I gotta say it’s the latter scenario. Either way old woman is in the wrong while young lady was very co signage of what was going on around her and waited for an opportunity where she wasn’t disturbing anyone.
She was pulling her phone out of her pocket before she looked at the camera. She clearly just didn't know and why would she.
The young woman wasn't doing anything wrong, but it was a bit clueless. It looks busy and people just aren't going to notice, they're looking at the art and living their own lives. If there was a person holding the phone for the photograph it might have been more obvious what was going on.
She was pulling her phone out before she saw the camera. I think this old lady was just taking her time in an art museum... which is kind of what you're supposed to do.
I currently date someone who takes their own photos like this all the time (usually with their back cameras so its even more inapparent). You’re severely misunderstanding how many people are actually aware of someone randomly dropping their phone and walking off is them filming themselves - let alone a 50/60 year old woman. Ive seen it a million times, half the people look at the phone confusingly unaware of the person standing off in the distance before going about their business.
She moved from oncoming foot traffic and then proceeded forward when sensing foot traffic approaching from behind like most people do when messing with their phone in the middle of an active walkway. Not everybody is approaching the world through the lens of constant social media content creation.
Stopping in the middle of a public staircase to look at your phone is rude/potentially dangerous regardless of the photo. Get out of the way and then look at your phone. This is like the geezers who walk into the grocery store and then stop right inside the entrance to pull up their coupons.
I don’t know, she literally was going to pull her phone of her pocket before she looked at the phone. She didn’t seem to notice the girl putting it there. Now the phone position could have made her decide to be an asshole and block the shot or maybe she just thought it was weird. I think her moving out of the way of the people though was 100% valid. As a result she blocked the frame.
On another notes isn’t it wild that this brief encounter has spawned another reality. That lady could just have forgotten she saw the phone because she’s old 😂. Social media really is wild.
Art is meant to be consumed by the privileged so they can understand the struggle of the masses. Not for the masses to think they can achieve privilege.
Oh no, a museum makes more money. God forbid we support the arts and the places they're kept for viewing and restoration, even at the behest of someone taking a picture of themselves.
For what it's worth... My wife and I went to a concert and this girl was in attendance. My wife, out of nowhere, starts speaking with her in Portuguese. Im like how does she know this person? My wife had just moved here to the states. My wife started telling her how much she helped her through college because this girl does educational content and my wife consumed a lot of it when she was in university.
Shes not really an influencer in the way you are alluding to. Her name is Débora Aladim.
It's not just a selfie though, you don't need to set up a tripod for that. She's doing the influencer thing where she thinks she owns the public space.
Have people not been setting up tri pods to take pictures at the eiffel tower, the Vatican, statue of liberty, and holy shit, even art galleries for ages? You have beef with young people doing it, and thats weird, because you forgot an entirely common use of a camera just to shit on someone.
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u/DookieShoez Aug 30 '26
She got out of the way of people using the stairs fool