r/PoursTea • u/Veshaad Timendi Causa Est Nescire • 13h ago

PoliticalTea 🗳️ Exactly this...

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u/Lower-Land-286 12h ago

Almost every time I hear someone describing the 'nightmare scenario' of living under socialism, they end up describing the current realities of modern day capitalism.

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u/Southern-March1522 12h ago

Or they describe an authoritarian regime, and never actually cover the socialism/capitalism at all since they're not the same thing.

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u/Lower-Land-286 11h ago

In their defense, most attempts at communism/socialism did collapse into authoritarianism.

But one is not the other.

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u/Domeil 8h ago

Yeah, they "collapsed" spontaneously because of communism/socialism. The monarchist militias and fascist death squads trained at the School of the Americas, funded by the State Department, and armed by the CIA had nothing to do with the "collapse."

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u/Lower-Land-286 8h ago

No, Stalin was given contol of the red army to get a few of the Baltic states in line (yes, that means it never would have worked.) But, once Stalin was victorious, they said, "Wonderful comrade, now relinquish the power and we can truly be classless, stateless and godless!"

And Stalin says, "Crazy idea. How about I keep the power and we just be godless and classless.'

And as he still had control over the red army there was nothing they could do.

And his Authoritarian rein began.