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u/Careful-Force2506 18d ago

The doctor was the mother! How clever!!

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u/Master-of-Not 18d ago

Its shocking how effective that riddle is today even amongst men who claim to be feminist.

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u/drewsandraws 18d ago

I wonder how long that will be the case since most med students (in the US, not sure about elsewhere) are women. Give it a generation, I guess!

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u/Any-Advantage-3171 18d ago

'The doctor was a woman!?' is a phrase I say frequently

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u/idk936z 18d ago

What is this in reference to? Sorry, I guess I’m out of the loop since everyone else seems to know what you’re referring to lol.

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u/DiscDocPhD 18d ago

A man and a son get into a car accident. They are rushed to the hospital and the boy requires surgery. Both are badly hurt, and the boy needs surgery. The surgeon looks at the boy and says "I cannot perform surgery on him! He's my son!". Why is this the case?

Or

A father and son get in a car crash and are rushed to the hospital. The father dies. The boy is taken to the operating room and the surgeon says "I can't operate on this boy, because he's my son." How is this possible?

The reader might have a mental image of the surgeon as a male. This, they can't figure out that the surgeon is the boys mother.Ā 

I have seen people try to reason that the surgeon is the secret father before they reason the surgeon could be a woman...

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u/spaceguitar Prefer Coffee But Fill My Cup šŸ«– 18d ago

It is wild to me how many people don’t get the answer to this within 5 seconds.

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u/msc1 18d ago

My father and mother are doctors, I asked this riddle to them and they both failed. I asked this riddle to my sister and she answered immediately and I also got the answer correct immediately.

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u/Nuclear_rabbit 17d ago

Lol the thing tripping me up was "why can't a mother operate on her son?" I may be a different kind of stupid

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u/Traditional-Text1888 16d ago

if people you associate with are saying the answer to this riddle is a 'secret father', then you are associating yourself with idiots

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u/Dualidean_ofman 15d ago

I just wish I could go to ONE party without someone trying to tell me the life story of goddamned EADWEARD MYBRIDGE

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u/GreenZebra23 18d ago

What's extra ridiculous is every man has had a guy mansplain to them. They don't do it as aggressively as they do to women, but they still fucking do it. Acting like it's not a real thing is obvious cap

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u/I-screwed-up-bad 18d ago

True, I was reading this and thinking that many people regardless of identity do this, just some men do it a lot more emphatically.

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u/underboobfunk 18d ago

There are exceptions to every gendered stereotype, but the confidence that causes someone to explain a subject of which they have casual knowledge to an expert of that subject is definitely a masculine trait. That confidence is driven by testosterone.

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u/I-screwed-up-bad 18d ago

Oh testosterone might play a part but I think it's mainly how men are socialized. Or women with PCOS would be pcosplaining lol as well as other conditions where women's testosterone levels lie outside the "normal" levels.

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u/underboobfunk 18d ago

Socialization definitely plays a huge part. Trans men report will report a huge surge in confidence when they start HRT but will continue to be more deferential in conversations than cis men.

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u/I-screwed-up-bad 18d ago

That's interesting. Sucks that they feel like they still have to be deferential but interesting.

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u/AnastasiaNo70 Waffles And PancakesšŸ§‡šŸ„ž 18d ago

It once happened to me while my husband was standing there. He told me later he didn’t totally believe me about mansplaining but seeing it done to me in front of him convinced him. Now he notices it all the time.

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u/UpperYoghurt3978 18d ago

I totally understand: See what the other posters are doing is mansplaining the mansplaining to you which is ironic because you were saying that mansplaining is bad......hmmmmm let me see how I can get through to you.

(sarcasm viva la dirt league skit)

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u/Particular_Grass8050 18d ago

No literally most of the comments are ā€œyou dumb woman, how do you not understand that we’re just EXPLAINING things to you because we know things about subjects that you don’tā€

Like they’re just mansplaining mansplaining but are just triggered by the world

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u/UpperYoghurt3978 18d ago

Yea irony is funny and not lost on me, if you have time look up viva la dirt league on mansplaining get a good laugh.

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u/Technical-Banana574 18d ago

Gosh, it is the absolute worst feeling.Ā 

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u/Friendly-World-5273 18d ago

I’ve seen it; I’ve experienced it, but I’ve also seen the term thrown around to shut down conversation. And that I’m seeing more frequently, especially on the internet.

If you start a discussion, you don’t own it. Other people can contribute, and even if they add things you already know, it’s not mansplaining or one upping, it’s just sharing knowledge and it might benefit someone else. I see that bad take far too frequently.

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u/generic-irish-guy 18d ago

ā€œAnd has sometimes expressed reservations about how broadly it is usedā€.

People seem fairly content to ignore this part. There are plenty of genuine examples of mansplaining, but it has also become another buzzword that people throw around when they hear something they don’t like.

Same thing happened with ā€œincelā€. Even aside from how it changed from the original meaning of involuntary celibate to its meaning now, plenty of people just use it when a man happens to criticise a woman or a group of women even when the criticism is valid.

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u/BigDowntownRobot 18d ago

I feel like the refusal to listen is really the main thing that is generally ignored.

Being confident about something, or knowing things, and talking about things you know are not bad. It's the ignorance masked as confidence that is the thing. But I generally just see it as "a man is saying something he shouldn't be allowed to say, because he's a man, so he is ignorant" and I am not a fan.

Hell, the actual act of shutting someone down because they are "mansplaining" when you really just don't like what they are saying, or don't want to engage with it so you resort to personal attacks is essentially the same ignorance masking as confidence issue.

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u/Omnizoom 18d ago

There’s also a lot of femsplaining that happens too

Turns out humans just like being condescending asshats sometimes

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u/Unbuckled__Spaghetti 18d ago

Which is a problem in its own right, because the word loses meaning. It’s like how gaslighting used to be a serious manipulation tactic but now it basically just means ā€œlyingā€.

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u/Global-Discussion-41 16d ago

There was a Video posted yesterday of a women on a dating show and she seemed sweet, but none of the guys wanted to date her.Ā 

Lots of the top comments (in several different subreddits because it was reposted) were calling the guys incels.

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u/Idaho-Earthquake 18d ago

Right? I’m glad it mentioned her unease with the misapplication of the word. It has enough valid uses without adding abuses.

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u/TopTopTopcinaa 18d ago

Some guy the other day explained to me that pregnancy is ā€œan inconvenienceā€ and that giving birth is not that bad. I have two kids. If that isn’t m*nsplaining, I don’t know what is.

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u/Idaho-Earthquake 18d ago

Ah. That falls squarely in the ā€œno uterus, no opinionā€ category.

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u/GreenSsswinger 18d ago

Exactly! I've literally been told irl to "stop mansplaning" just for asking clarifying questions.

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u/Candid-Hovercraft228 18d ago

Words like this unfortunately are too effective as social weapons for the disingenuous to ignore when they run out of arguments.

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u/Interesting-Copy-657 17d ago

Exactly, the term is too quickly used and just seems to put people on the defensive or to shut down the conversation

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u/Salt-Lingonberry-853 17d ago

It is a term with a valid meaning to describe a phenomenon common enough to need its own word... But like any other discrediting accusation, it often lobbed around in places where it doesn't belong when toxic people aren't getting their way.

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u/AoE3_Nightcell 16d ago

I explained mansplaining to my sister and it ruined thanksgiving

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u/HexspaReloaded 14d ago

Children can’t be responsible with power tools.

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u/tzaeru 17d ago

As shown by this thread as well, men are very sensitive about these things. Have to be careful to not hurt their feelings.

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u/Pandaburn 17d ago

Some people seem to not believe men have feelings? Or maybe enjoy hurting them? It’s not actually a good look.

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u/Fancy_footwork3670 18d ago

I was just reading a comment thread of a guy trying to explain the female orgasm (incorrectly) to a famous lesbian adult film star who's been working for 20 years.

Some men have no shame and infinite confidence.

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u/Confident-Ad-6978 18d ago

Mansplaining is when a man explains something to a woman that she already understood. Hoped I helped you girlsĀ 

  • a man

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u/PersonalPerson_ 18d ago

I have actually had mansplaining mansplained to me in all seriousness. He assumed I had never heard the term (despite it being over a decade old at that point) and was telling me all about it.

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u/WhydIGetLoggedOut 18d ago

I'm aware of mansplaining as a concept, but would certainly like someone to mansplain to me what this guy at the party did wrong - or was mansplaining - by saying that a new book had come out about this guy, and not knowing she was the author? Unless it's some author conference, why would you think you are talking to the author of a book about some topic (especially ome that seems pretty obscure). Like, ok, mansplaining happens, but it sounds like this guy was caught off guard about meeting the author of a book about an obscure topic.

:shrug:

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u/Xeno9116 18d ago

He cut her off while she was speaking about the topic to tell her about her own book, without having read it. It's the cutting her off and assuming his partial knowledge outweighed her actual knowledge.

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u/GrantSolar 18d ago

Mansplain, manipulate, manifest šŸ’–

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u/Able_Trade_7233 14d ago

Thank you, Bachman Ehrlich.

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u/HighPoweredSandwich 18d ago

That's not mansplaining. I will tell you what mansplaining is.

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u/No_Excuse4323 18d ago

no, dont listen to her. i heard from a good hird hand sourse a few deacades ago and know much better than... HER

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u/Interesting-Copy-657 17d ago

Mansplaining is when your are condescending, condescending is when you talk down to people, use simpler words like they don’t know anything.

/s

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u/W3REWOLF 18d ago

Imagine fumbling a social interaction so bad that it becomes culturally significant

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u/VelvetCactus50 18d ago

Imagine making an ass out of yourself because you ignored the one attempt from the other person to stop you from doing that by "that's her book" repeatedly.

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u/ReasonableIron8712 18d ago

He was probably too inside his own head coming up with bullshit to register that.

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u/theswamphag 18d ago

I can only imagine the repeating self cringe.

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u/ShoppingcartBiology 17d ago

Generational cringe

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u/buddhist557 18d ago

Rich men mostly suck, I concur.

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u/Huzzo_zo 15d ago

Where does it say he's rich?

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u/Vast-Breakfast-1201 18d ago

It's definitely over applied

I have had special interests where I am like "well I did some work here and it seems xyz abc whatever" and my wife is like "stop mansplaining"

This is my hobby im just talking about what I like, if you don't want to hear it then fine... I listen plenty too so it's not a unilateral thing.

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u/Lone-Frequency 18d ago

I've had it used on me when I was literally explaining something they did not understand...

I'm like, "Okay! Good luck!"

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u/Jazzlike-Basket-6388 16d ago

I was the cost person on a major project. The project manager was a woman. I'd give her cost info and she's snap at me for mansplaining. I'm the subject matter expert, I own the tools that provide this information and it is my literal job to provide this information to you. My performance is entirely contingent on informing you.

Now they only pair her with women.

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u/SquirrelBoom 18d ago

That's where I've had it used at me 99% of the time.

Like dawg I'm just a little touched and thought you meant it when you asked me to explain.

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u/Salt-Lingonberry-853 17d ago

If I had a woman use it on me seriously like that I don't think I'd stick around, it's pretty indicative of a sexist attitude. The term has valid meaning and cultural relevance, but it's not just "man explained something" and it is a big red flag for someone to use the term as such.

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u/Stildawn 15d ago

When this came out I was like yeah of course assholes are everywhere.

But to be honest, in my experience mansplaining is WAY more common from women than it is from men. Obviously not a great thing to do from either gender.

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u/TheChronographer 14d ago

I mean even the original event is like that. It doesn't say he was rude about it, or 'thought he knew better'. Her description equally fits someone who was really excited by her work talking about it, and her too timid to say anything, that's all.

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u/LurkerByNatureGT 18d ago

Unsurprisingly, the comments in a a post about mansplaining demonstrate Lewis’s law.Ā 

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u/banjovi68419 18d ago

Ahhh yes. That he who controls the lewis controls the laws.

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u/Ok-Contribution6337 15d ago

One thing we can all agree on as being worse than mansplaining is a statement which is a poorly disguised attempt to prompt a question begged by the statement.

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u/Otherwise-4PM 18d ago

Only one thing isn’t clear, did he explain the book to her just because she’s a woman, or would he have done the same if there had been a man on the other side? Maybe he’s just an idiot.

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u/FlipperBumperKickout 18d ago

I've heard from trans people they begin experiencing quite a difference in how much this happens before and after transition šŸ˜…

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u/Felyxi4 18d ago

Immediately. The speed at which mysogyny showed up in my life was genuinely insane.

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u/TwinkleToes1996 18d ago

Ya know not trying to be insensitive, but the things you said in parentheses sound like names of heros that would fight alongside Negasonic Teenage Warhead.

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u/m3gb0t 18d ago

I've seen this with my sister in law. When newly transitioned and out in public, she would text me saying "Omg, men stare at women so much!" or "Why do so many men have issues with personal space?" People don't always notice things that don't happen to them personally.

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u/peritonlogon 18d ago

Not only that, men seem to instinctively keep poor behavior away from the eyes of disapproving men, which makes claims harder to believe because the actions are out of sight.

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u/m3gb0t 18d ago

Exactly! She had no idea (how could she?) what women go through on a daily basis. She no longer thinks I'm some "crazy feminist" unfortunately now understands the means ing of patriarchy and misogny on a whole new level. I've been teach her how to stay safe and protect herself.

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u/peritonlogon 18d ago

It's the same with race, I only get to hear 2nd hand from my wife (African). At first it's like "that doesn't sound right, maybe they meant this? " Then after while it's pretty disturbing how well people are able keep their views to themselves around me and me alone. It takes piercing through your understanding about the world.

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u/Felyxi4 18d ago

Yes! Ty! It's EXACTLY the same as race!. It's all the same miserable mechanism.

It is NOT applied evenly and that's where people get messed up.

The inequity of oppression is part of It's design

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u/m3gb0t 18d ago

I agree. No one truly understands the experiences of other marginalized groups. That's why it's so important to listen to and believe others when they tell you about their lived experiences. We have to be willing to admit to our areas of ignorance, take accountability for our mistakes, take feedback without becoming defensive, and teach others without alienating them. I will never understand the people who feel they somehow know the experiences of a marginalized/oppressed group better than the actual members of that community.

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u/Felyxi4 18d ago

ā¤ļø spread the word sibling. I'm doing what i can.

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u/MrColburn 18d ago

My wife works in a highly technical (STEM) field. She is the director of the department and her one superior is also female and the VP of the department. Both my wife and the VP are ridiculously accomplished in the field and both have been recruited several times by companies that need their expertise. My wife has not had to search for a new job in 15 years. She also works from home most days and I hear a lot of her meetings and the ones with men MUCH lower ranked than both of them can be absolutely hysterical. I cant count the number of times I have heard a man from an entirely different department, that has worked maybe a total of 1 year in her industry, explain to my wife and her superior how to do their jobs and how things work "around here". I honestly thought it would be the C-Suite execs that treated them like that but it's not. My wife said it has always been like that and anywhere she works the lower you go on the totem pole the more likely she was to find someone who was happy to explain what her job was and how to do it, even though being completely off by miles.

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u/Technical-Banana574 18d ago

Yeah, my friend said he was shocked by how differently he got treated post transition. Everyone suddenly listened to him and took what he said at face value.Ā 

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u/SnazzyGeoff 18d ago

Also people have always been condescending to each other since time began.

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u/m3gb0t 18d ago

That's not what we are talking about.

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u/Mogura-De-Gifdu 17d ago

The best way to see this is asking trans people.

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u/_mnrva 18d ago

I never knew this. This hurts to the core of my very being 😣

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u/Complete-Leg-4347 18d ago

I've heard good things about her book "A Paradise Built in Hell", which challenges the popular narrative that following a disaster, people are less likely to embrace the chaos as an excuse to seize power and more likely to want to help each other.

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u/AnastasiaNo70 Waffles And PancakesšŸ§‡šŸ„ž 18d ago

It’s infuriating. Makes you want to never talk to a man again. I’ve been interrupted by men, had my ideas stolen by men, told how to do something I’m a literal expert in….that was all when I was younger. I’m in my 50s now and don’t tolerate it.

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u/JGeerth 18d ago

Pretty embarrasing that he had to explain it to her. Didn't she understand what was going on when she wrote it?

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u/m3gb0t 18d ago

Well texhnically, he didn't actually witness her do the research or write it. Her being the author is just what they want you to believe, sheeple. /s

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u/KindPlans 17d ago

The woman responsible for the word mansplaining even has reservations about it and thinks it's used too broadly lol

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u/sadguywithhugedick 16d ago

Ladies, mansplaining is short for man explaining.

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u/Awesomo_Judgementday 15d ago

My sister wrote a few books. I should mansplain them to her.

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u/wtsnack 18d ago

And then everyone clapped

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u/JazzgirlGriego 18d ago

This reminds me of Billy Jean King vs Bobby Riggs....he got his nuts handed back to him lol.

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u/lwb03dc 18d ago

It was an exhibition match created specifically as a way to make easy money for both BJK and the 55 year old Riggs. All his chauvinist bravado was basic showmanship. I'm sure he had no complaints about getting his nuts handed to him.

King entered the court in the style of Cleopatra, on a feather-adorned litter carried by four bare-chested muscle men dressed in the style of ancient slaves. Riggs followed in a rickshaw drawn by a bevy of models. Riggs presented King with a giant Sugar Daddy lollipop, and she responded by giving him a squealing piglet, symbolic of male chauvinism. Riggs was given $50,000 (about $363,000 currently) to wear a yellow Sugar Daddy jacket during the match, which he took off after three games. Riggs also placed many bets on and invested money in the match.

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u/sphinxorosi 18d ago

How most of the users here feel after firing off a reply about women doing it too

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u/ASomthnSomthn 18d ago

I happen to enjoy when people explain things they’re excited about to me, regardless of their gender.

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u/Captain21423 18d ago

I got accused of mansplaining for explaining how to use the functions of a radar. I’m the captain. She was the trainee.

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u/nikolasz1173 14d ago

Should have Faild her immediately

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u/PerfectPenguino 18d ago

So she didn't coin the term at all? Okay.

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u/throw7661 18d ago edited 18d ago

Edit: I originally expressed skepticism at the story shared in her essay - most notably regarding an apparent contradiction with the time of the review and the party.

I was wrong and offer my sincere apologies.

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u/17Girl4Life 18d ago

The book had recently been reviewed in the NYT so it’s not that big of a coincidence that it would be a topic of conversation at a party for educated, literary people. I was at a party with academics when someone brought up an article my friend published without realizing she was the author. It was just a current topic of conversation at the time

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u/stormyarthur 18d ago

ā€œ Ā But at some party, some guy, was like, 'Hey, let me tell you about this fairly obscure book about this guy nobody has heard of...' But wait Guess who happens to be standing right there?!? The Author!ā€œ

Go back and read it again. The author was already talking about recently authoring a book about Muybridge, and the host started pontificating about a recent on published book onĀ  Muybridge, not understanding that the book the author just published and was discussing was the ā€œvery importantā€ book that the host was talking about. So the book was already being discussed before the host brought up the book.

And if you don’t think that folks didn’t discuss books that were reviewed in the New York Times, probably at a party that was full of ā€œintellectualsā€ than I have a bridge to sell you.

r/nothingeverhappens

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u/Visible_Pair3017 18d ago

It's usually about as obnoxious as the other way, if by that you mean women explaining to men things they don't know about and the man does.

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u/No_Bluebird6873 18d ago

Anyones confidence can be mistaken as knowledge or skill, it does not have to be man. It is clear that this was from 2008 since it was so stale and disgustingly filled with sexism which isn't so fresh in the current year, 2026.

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u/Familiar-Tomorrow-42 18d ago

This is a perfectly reasonable story. It’s a shame the second most insufferable people in the world took the word and ran with it.

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u/Ohmybro34 18d ago

Just becsuse you read a book once doesnt mean you know the writers face or voice. Or even properly remember their name. Seems like a mistake i could have made.

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u/VelvetCactus50 18d ago

He didn't even read the book...

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u/shadowlev 18d ago

Yeah but typically you figure it out after being directly told to your face multiple times

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u/HolaDrNick 18d ago

I always thought that story sounded like exceedingly pretentious people trying to one up and argue with each other in Aspen. I'd have gone looking for a dog to pet.

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u/m3gb0t 18d ago

I always thought that story sounded like exceedingly pretentious people trying to one up and argue with each other in Aspen. I'd have gone looking for a dog to pet.

Hold on.

  • Susan is at a party. In making small talk she mentions she wrote a book about pine trees.
  • John hears this and begins to explain Susan's book to Susan, despite never reading it or knowing about pine trees.
  • Max tries to tell John that Susan is the author of the book he's talking about, but he seeming doesn't care and continues to tell Susan about her own book.
  • Max has to tell John several times before he believes that Susan wrote the book he never read.

Who are "exceedingly pretentious people trying to one up and argue with each other"?

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u/Rawrielai 18d ago

You think a woman trying to point out that she in fact authored the book someone is trying to tell her about is a "one up"?

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u/Taras_Kvas 18d ago

Why nobody mentions the fact that the man was Albert Einstein?

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u/FuklzTheDrnkClwn 18d ago

lol men are fucking dumb.

-man

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u/Apprehensive_Ad3731 18d ago

My major issue with this is because a lot of women think it is a personal attack on their gender and they don’t realise that the person ā€œmansplainingā€ is just an asshole and they would be just as dismissive of a mans idea.

It’s sad because it throws a whole gender under the bus instead of specifying the asshole in front of them.

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u/Aggravating_Dot9657 18d ago

What is the term for when a woman does this?

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u/sasheenka 17d ago

Womansplaining. What else would it be.

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u/nikolasz1173 14d ago

It doesn't exist

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u/Jive_Turkey__ 14d ago

ma'amsplaining

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u/Comfortable-Tea7122 18d ago

The primary tenet of literary critique is that the author's opinion of their work is irrelevant to it's meaning.

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u/PerformanceParty2810 18d ago

Youre telling me she tried to tell the guy the author was standing in front of him and he ignored her? Ngl, this makes me think that entire story is a lie

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u/Athunc 18d ago

Having read the whole text, she did not make that word after all. Unknown strangers on the internet did after relating to her story. So the first picture is inaccurate

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u/narco-sub-admiral know me, broken by my master 18d ago

The term "reply guy" is also pretty funny in the context of Twitter. Before it was muskd.

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u/Jaded_Afternoon_4778 18d ago

"Mansplaining" is when a man shares his perspective on something and then misandrists get upset at him for it.

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u/almostaproblem 18d ago

Yall never miss an opportunity to make something sexist. This is totally a gendered problem and not a people problem.

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u/primals_game 18d ago

Everybody clapped

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u/Due_Brother8485 18d ago

So basically, woman was slightly off put by one man, then decided to make it literally everybody else's problem out of spite.

More breaking news at 11.

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u/SchemeOne2145 18d ago

It's hilarious how many comments here say (with no sense of irony) "actually that wasn't mansplaining. mansplaining is....."

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u/Elensar265 18d ago

he read a review of it

The dipshit in question aside that is practically everybody on this site and other social media nowadays

People commenting on things they've seen a 30 second clip of and think they're now an expert

Nobody does their due diligence lmao

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u/HotUKTakes 18d ago

Then everyone clapped.

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u/Fragrant_Entry9232 18d ago

What a bullshit story because this turned into its all men until its no men.Ā 

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u/nahitdontmatter 18d ago

um, that’s not what mansplaining is…

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u/theevilgood 18d ago

Did we ever get any confirmation that this actually happened or nah? Because honestly, these people lie so much i don't take anything they say on faith anymore

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u/Interesting-Copy-657 17d ago

My issue with the word is that it just gets used to shut down conversations

Like it is just used when ever a man explains something and the woman doesn’t want to listen or feels the argument isn’t going her way.

Their just doesn’t seem to be any requirement for condescending or sexism before people use it.

Just a man explaining anything is enough

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u/Boring_Butterfly_273 17d ago

People who aren't sexist simply call it condescending, patronizing, or overexplaining.

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u/icanith 17d ago

Ahh yes the time honored tradition of only one gender ever condescending talking down to the other.Ā 

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u/Kayanne1990 17d ago

Man that was far too many words just for something I ended up not caring about...

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u/Dense-Western4634 17d ago

He should have explained it better, she still doesn't understand

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u/Equivalent_Bar_5938 17d ago

I never really liked how women when talking about mansplaning always talk in a way that makes it seem like men do it only to women we do it just as much to other men.like i legit saw my dad whos not a mechaninc explaining to a mechanic hoe an engine would run But its wierd with men when you mansplain to a men they rarely get offended the mechanic just laughed and said yeah i know its kind of my job.

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u/Skee76 17d ago

In all fairness, men do this to each other as well. If somebody has that feeling of status/importance over the other in a "discussion", you cant get a word in sideways regardless how much of an expert you are on the subject.

Is this not an issue between women talking/discussing? Are they all considerate of each others feelings and value everybody's opinion equally? Just asking.

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u/AnonymousCapybara72 17d ago

Women also do it to men.

Is nobody ever meant to discuss a book they've heard about it in case the person they're talking to happens to be the author?

Like wow women are so desperate to be victims. It's actually seriously pathetic.

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u/dgaruti 17d ago

i had my mom trying to explain why i did somenthing .

while i was there .

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u/xYekaterina 16d ago

Women do it to each other and to men, yes.

"Are they all considerate of each others feelings and value everybody's opinion equally?"

God, no.

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u/TheEPGFiles 17d ago

Yeah, in my experience it's because it's all ego, they want to feel like they're the smartest person in the room. If truth is a matter of ego, then mankind is fucked.

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u/TruelyDashing 17d ago

Most believable misandrist garbage story

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u/Doobiius 17d ago

I hate the term mansplaining. It's simply the case if ignorant people who like to feel intellectually superior by surface level projection. I've seen all genders do it. I once watched a women who studied law at uni sit telling my GF at the time how wrong she was about certain laws and processes and when she eventually stopped to say how would I know any better. I went I don't but I'll believe my GF is right for nothing other than shes been practicing law as a job now for 8 years. You left uni 8 years ago and work retail.

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u/jaybool 17d ago

She doesn't like women explaining things, either, though.

https://cathyyoung63.medium.com/rebecca-solnit-is-the-queen-of-fauxminism-and-fakery-d0b2f0cb77d

"One of the essays in The Mother of All Questions is ā€œMen Explain Lolita to Me,ā€ first published on the Lithub site in December 2015 as a follow-up to another piece (also included in the book) on books that are toxic for women. Some people on the Internet had the nerve to disagree, so Solnit penned another essay about how men oppress her by telling her she’s wrong. She was particularly incensed by one comment questioning her statement that, when reading Vladimir Nabokov’s Lolita, she identified with the sexually abused title character:

It all came down to Lolita. ā€œSome of my favorite novels are disparaged in a fairly shallow way. To read Lolita and ā€˜identify’ with one of the characters is to entirely misunderstand Nabokov,ā€ one commenter informed me… The popular argument that novels are good because they inculcate empathy assumes that we identify with characters… It’s just when you identify with Lolita you’re clarifying that this is a book about a white man serially raping a child over a period of years. Should you read Lolita and strenuously avoid noticing that this is the plot and these are the characters? Should the narrative have no relationship to your own experience? This man thinks so, which is probably his way of saying that I made him uncomfortable.

A few paragraphs down, Solnit quoted the comment again, snidely referring to its author as ā€œone of my volunteer instructors,ā€ and mentioned discussing it on her own Facebook page only to get lectured some more by two ā€œnice liberal men.ā€

Five days after the essay was published, a post appeared in the comments section claiming that (1) ā€œthis manā€ was a woman with a gender-ambiguous name, and (2) she had not made this point to Solnit but in a discussion in her alumni group on Facebook. In two more days, one Sidney Newton (whose Facebook page confirms she is indeed a woman) chimed in:

I am a woman and the person quoted in the article and described as a man. She left out most of what I said as well. That’s fine. What isn’t fine is claiming men are explaining things to you and supporting that by quoting a woman talking to someone else.

That’s when Solnit did a ā€œstealth edit,ā€ altering the text without acknowledging the changes. ā€œOne commenter informed meā€ became ā€œone commenter asserted,ā€ while ā€œthis man thinks soā€ became ā€œthis reader thinks soā€ — and the speculation about the reader’s discomfort with white-male-rapist-blaming disappeared altogether."

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u/NerdyBro07 17d ago

What’s it called when a woman explains something to a man that he already knows?

My only issue is the term makes it sound like it’s some gender specific issue. I’ve encountered overly arrogant men and women and regardless of gender those types will do the same shit.

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u/UsefulDiscretion 17d ago

I think the issue was going to Aspen

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u/financialchrisis 17d ago

Mansplaining is such a stupid term, I have many male and female coworkers 'mansplain' the IT infrastructure that I helped create to me.

It's called having a huge ego or having had too much to drink.

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u/HydroPCanadaDude 17d ago

It's too gendered of a term. I've seen confidence masquerading as expertise in women plenty. Extra points if they're a narc.

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u/Lorelessone 17d ago

To preface as this will generate a lot of hate from people who feel called out. I work in heavy engineering and back in the day when women were first braking into engineering and technical trades I witnessed and had to deal with SO many cases of mansplaining, having to deal with them when in charge of people etc.

It was and still occasionally is a real issue.

BUT the word now is used almost exclusively as a sexist slur to try to silence men, this comment will certainly get called mansplaining, its used in the same way the suffragettes or any other women saying things sexists didn't like were called hysterical.

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u/Key_Pound_6213 17d ago

I've met brilliant men and brilliant women.

I've met far more not so brilliant people who very easily feel slighted and grasp to whatever explanation suits their ego.

I'm a man who is often wrong, has met many brilliant women that know more than me.

Yet the women that invoke mansplaining have never felt particularly impressive.

I have no doubt men do undercut women on occasion due to their(the men to be clear) ignorance and arrogance.

Yet most often I have encountered people full of ignorance and arrogance using this as a shield.

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u/Eponymous-Username 16d ago

Never explain anything to a woman. Even if she asks, and especially at work. It isn't worth the hassle, and most people are happier in ignorance.

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u/sadguywithhugedick 16d ago

I can’t remember the last time I was accused of mansplaining because I choose not to hang out with women, but I just like explaining stuff. I usually know more than other people too. So I’m sorry if you’re a lady pharmacologist or whatever, but talking about something used to be known as ā€œconversationā€

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u/launchedsquid 16d ago

Mansplaining is when a man explains a concept to a woman in a condescending way. There you go sweetheart.

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u/MarcelPappas 16d ago

Good. Now create a word about a woman who kills her 3 children. One the world won't forget also please.

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u/BoomBoxPizza 16d ago

No one finding irony that a woman wrote a book explaining Muybridge (a male photographer), later went on to say she was ā€œmansplainedā€ šŸæ

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u/moonyflamingo 16d ago

I recently had to sit through a five minute monologue of a man explaining feminism to me. Including how hard it was for men.

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u/warbondtomorrow_88 16d ago

Oh, so the word is an insult in itself. So it's like adding "for a woman" at the end of the sentence to trigger someone?

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u/PrettySatyric-al 15d ago

And because of this, we now have women confidently claiming a man is mansplaining something to her, even when HE is the actual expert and SHE knows Jack. But nobody's ready for that conversation.

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u/MrT-87 15d ago

In everyday life though its funny how a man can patiently explain something a woman didn’t understand… and the second she gets it, someone still labels it ā€˜mansplaining.’ Apparently the crime isn’t the explanation, it’s having a Y chromosome while delivering it

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u/ban-me-baby 15d ago

Just a sexist version of something that already exists.Ā 

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u/corn_explosion 15d ago

'splaining in general, man or not, is the actual problem here. I'm and man and get interrupted by the women in my life with great frequency. I have to just stand there while the 'splaining occurs, and when it's over I continue.

I think there's a decent chance that the man in this situation was really excited to tell them all about this great book he heard about, and I would guess most likely didn't catch, maybe even couldn't really adequately process that this woman in front of him wrote it.

I think the "he explained her own book to her" is misleading at best. He was excited by your book, that's a huge compliment. He didn't know you, and sure they say they told him over and over it was her book... I don't know. If it was sexist I imagine he'd not have been as excited or whatever in the first place, knowing it was a female author.

I'm just saying, being sulky about a stranger showing excitement over your work, even (and maybe more so) if they can't quit talking about it is a bit weird. I would die to have someone recognize me in this way, and I think would genuinely laugh at the end, feeling humbled and content..

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u/Main_Damage_7717 15d ago

at least it points out it's own absurdity "one man at a party"

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u/ConclusionNaive8816 15d ago

So they took one case involving one asshole and turned it into a rule for all men. Now they can just shut down conversations and debates and always be right because, you know, a man explaining something is automatically ā€œmansplaining.ā€ Women’s manipulation has no limits.

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u/thegoddamnsiege 15d ago

I remember when the idea of mansplaining actually clicked with me.

About a decade ago, me and my partner at the time were at her mother's house for Christmas or something. Her step-father, a regular blue-collar dude who didn't graduate high school and got most of his information from Joe Rogan, was confidently and incorrectly explaining feminism to another family member. The person he was talking to was AFAB, and had a master's degree in women and gender studies. When the other person would try to correct him on certain points, he would argue with them, and cite a bunch of YouTube videos he saw.

I was kind of stunned by the exchange, and at that moment realized why so many women are infuriated by mansplaining.

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u/nasty_billy 14d ago

This post is some quintessential reddit shit

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u/beastmen-enjoyer 14d ago

Anything regarding mansplaining and redditors trip over themselves to tell everybody how they understood the 'female surgeon' riddle instantly. Bravo guys youre one of good ones /s

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u/sbrozzolo 14d ago

Only a woman can get annoyed at the fact that people tries to look good using your book.

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u/BigJim_McBob 14d ago

I do this with my negative encounters with ethnic minorities, and all I got was a meeting with HR.

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u/Brave-Confusion5324 14d ago

To have the confidence of a mediocre, straight, white male.....

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u/Jive_Turkey__ 14d ago

Imagine not taking that as a huge compliment. If I met someone who was effusive about a piece of work I created, I would let them finish and then let them in on the surprise at the end

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u/Fast_Technology_5622 14d ago

He isn’t explaining anything. He’s guilty of loving the sound of his own voice and even that can be explained by him being the host of the party and having to be ā€œonā€ more than he probably would be usually.
I can’t believe this is where mansplaining comes from. What typical bullshit.

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u/Cotton_420 14d ago

Must of been such a traumatic experience for her, I hope writing a book about it helped her heal šŸ™. People who live in abject poverty, severe illness and disease, worn torn countries can take some strength and gratitude from hearing about the author’s struggles.

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u/RavenQuark 13d ago

So glad her therapist has content to talk about regarding that one interaction for 6+ appointments

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u/Glad_Music_4138 13d ago

In that context it just sounds like some douchebag obnoxiously trying to hold attention.

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u/Pinco_Pallino_ 12d ago

explaining something, that has to be the result of evil patriarchy