Shoutout the Brewers defense in game 1

[u/creaturecatzz]

[u/isunktheship]

Biggest hit they've ever seen

[u/Jefwho]

Dead ball or ground rule double. What the fuck is this shit

[u/BZLuck → u/Jefwho]

It's almost like like if a fan reached over and interfered with a home run hit, flubbed it, but the outfielder still caught it.

[u/DaPads → u/BZLuck]

Wouldn’t it be the same if it bounced off a high wall? I get it’s in play but it’s not an out.

[u/doverawlings → u/DaPads]

It depends what the ground rules are. Ostensibly the Padres coaches know the ground rules, because when lineup cards are exchanged the umpires brief the managers on them. I assume they don’t actually do this much, though, because everyone has played in these parks for years and feels like they know the deal.

I don’t know what the stadium’s ground rules are. But there isn’t a universal rule so it’s not analogous to a wall or anything else; it’s defined on an individual park-basis. That’s why the Rays and Astros have different ground rules for different parts of their roof. Apparently the ground rule here says the roof is in play. I agree that’s stupid, but it’s stupid for both teams and agreed upon. So it’s the “right” call, but it’s still totally unfair.

It was clear watching that the ball was headed over the fence, fair or foul. I’m not a Padres fan so I can say that unbiased. But if those are indeed the ground rules, nobody got a call wrong here; it’s just incredibly stupid and screwed you guys out of a possible win.

[u/Barr_cudas → u/doverawlings]

There’s no way to NOT accept the home team ground rules - rules like this inherently suck for all visiting teams

[u/HaulinBoats → u/Barr_cudas]

Doesn’t the rule suck for home teams just as much?

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[u/BeepBoopAnv → u/BZLuck]

A fan with a 40 foot tall flyswatter maybe

[u/BZLuck → u/BeepBoopAnv]

And what happens when a ball gets stuck in between the outfield padding or get lost in the shrubbery? How is this any different? The stadium itself prevented the ball from continuing it's normal path. Ground rule double? Great. Dead ball? Fine. Out because he still caught it? Silly.

[u/Wahwahwahhhwahwahwah → u/BZLuck]

Something like might’ve happened b4 🤔

[u/Zealousideal-Sail524 → u/Jefwho]

I'm not a Padres fan and I was pissed at that call. That ball was gonna be long gone.

[u/otm_shank → u/Jefwho]

Can't really be a ground rule double when the stadium's actual ground rules explicitly say otherwise.

[u/Jojofriend → u/Jefwho]

This shit is a rule that has been in place since the park opened decades ago.

[u/Barr_cudas → u/Jojofriend]

While true - doesn’t mean that it’s a good rule

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[u/CPriceRun86 → u/Jefwho]

Ground rule double would be stupid.

If a player skies one in the infield and it hits the roof it's a double?

[u/Mysterious-Tiger7293 → u/CPriceRun86]

Youre actually stupid for not knowing the rules. In every other stadium where theres interference of the stadium design or the ball goes out of play i.e. in the vines or through the scoreboard, its a double.

[u/BigFigWasp666 → u/Mysterious-Tiger7293]

https://giphy.com/gifs/OkYZATBHRXTSU

[u/Best-Investments]

Unbelievable assist by the roof

[u/BlazeonPadres]

shouldn’t play baseball in shopping malls

[u/Fluffy_Voice953]

If you go back to Darryl Strawberrys iconic homerun in Montreal where he hit the roof, it bounced back in the field but common sense determined it was a home run

[u/AllPinesMustDie → u/Fluffy_Voice953]

Different stadium, different ground rules. They didn't make this shit up after the fact, everyone knew the rules going in.

[u/Forgethestamp → u/Fluffy_Voice953]

Daaaaarryl! Daaaaarryl!

[u/DisWizzaRightHer]

What in the actual fuck guys? High level shenanigans. Fuck me

[u/Posty_McReddit]

MVP of the game: Steel Crossmember

[u/every1gets1more-egg → u/Posty_McReddit]

Inanimate carbon rod

[u/honestyaintnice → u/every1gets1more-egg]

[u/chickentowngabagool]

shithole stadium

[u/biggolnuts_johnson]

what an ugly shithole of a stadium

[u/Seananagans]

Brewers fans when defending the literal worst ground rule in sports knowing full well they'd be screeching for change had this happened to them: 🗿

[u/sbrider11 → u/Seananagans]

Has happened to them a few times and ALL players hate this rule.

We would all give zero fucks if they lost today the same way.

On to the next game. No sense whining and crying over what is.

[u/Barr_cudas → u/sbrider11]

How about we focus on how to capitalize on them dozen stranded runners instead

[u/gibertot → u/sbrider11]

Yeah it’s best not to dwell on it. It’s over I’m mad but it’s done it’s in the past move on.

[u/B1GP0PPA82 → u/Seananagans]

Yep. They've just never hit hard enough or high enough for it to have even been a possibility

[u/Feisty_Tour_6934 → u/Seananagans]

"no ball in the Statcast era that had an exit velocity of 105 mph and a launch angle of 49 degrees has ever been a home run" Timothy Burke

Luckily science doesn't matter because it's 2026

[u/Seananagans → u/Feisty_Tour_6934]

Its not about the homer, its about it being a catchable ball.

[u/Western-Flamingo5965 → u/Seananagans]

That was catchable all day long, it was bang up in the air

[u/Barr_cudas → u/Feisty_Tour_6934]

I had this estimated at 365’ given the LA, EV, distance and height of impact

Of course there have been zero HRs with LA greater than 46 - they all get physically impeded

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[u/Seananagans → u/[deleted]]

Now imagine if it stays a live play when it gets caught in the vines. Thats the issue here.

[u/Barr_cudas → u/[deleted]]

Well watch your butter asses melt in the 100* heat next week with your stale ass beer and cheese

But great game otherwise…

[u/MkeYosh → u/Barr_cudas]

Wait... Talk shit about our beer all you want but we unanimously have the best cheese in the country. I won't stand for that slander

[u/Barr_cudas → u/MkeYosh]

May be remiss - I’m quite addicted to cheese curds and squeekers

[u/MkeYosh → u/Barr_cudas]

🤝

[u/Barr_cudas → u/[deleted]]

This is an honest take - that’s a ton of missed opportunities that has to be addressed

I’m Sorry, but Merrill should have been pinch hit in that situation

[u/CPriceRun86 → u/Seananagans]

Don't see us lobbying to change the ivy rules at Wrigley that have fucked us more times than I can count over the years

[u/OrganicValley_ → u/Seananagans]

The Padres did agree to it

[u/Seananagans → u/OrganicValley_]

Its the ground rule. It has to be agreed to in the game. It doesn't mean its not a dogshit rule that needs to change.

[u/RythN3L]

Brewer fans celebrating the call. Karma is a bitch, that’s all I’m gonna say

[u/Seananagans → u/RythN3L]

Its just up to the Padres to finally be the karma dealers for a change instead of the karma victims.

[u/HaruMistborn → u/RythN3L]

I'm a dodgers fan, just stopped by to say I hope you guys dunk on them after that shit.

[u/Buckets-O-Yarr → u/HaruMistborn]

And then the hunt for whoever wrote their ground rules begins. (To hire them, because they might be psychic.)

[u/Select-Chapter-2010 → u/HaruMistborn]

Wrong sport bud

[u/Acceptable-Fly9430 → u/RythN3L]

If brewers advance we all know they’re going to roll over against the dodgers 4-0

[u/furiousrodbader → u/RythN3L]

It's gonna be so delicious. You KNOW this ain't their year

[u/Time_Local_586 → u/RythN3L]

I'm pretty sure the breakdown of response sentiment would look pretty similar here, had we benefitted from it. The boys'll take care of business on the field.

[u/VincentFreeman_ → u/RythN3L]

They arent just celebrating they have like a botnet downvoting anything that doesn't agree with it in r/ baseball

[u/Imaginary_View_1956 → u/RythN3L]

i think we need to calm down. stats based off exit velocity and angle are saying it wasn't a homerun. still shouldn't be an out tho

[u/Rebs619 → u/Imaginary_View_1956]

Sure buddy. At that angle it’s a good 20 ft into the stands. It hit the roof and came straight down and was still basically at the warning track.

[u/Imaginary_View_1956 → u/Rebs619]

we don't know if it was spinning or not when it hit the roof. a ball with topspin on it will ricochet forward instead of backwards, it's literally a law of physics. i guess we all hate science in this sub

[u/Nerd4funNprofit → u/Imaginary_View_1956]

Here's some physics calcs for you from a comment I made in r/baseball:

At 105.3mph and 49° (reported) with the stadium at 635ft above sea level, 59°F air temp and 0mph wind, and including air drag on a baseball, ballistic calculator says ~375ft; at 70°F it goes ~378ft. The wall is at 344ft along the 3rd base line and the next marking over according to the field map on Wikipedia is 370ft, so seems like it would have been a HR with at least 5ft to spare.

This could be dialed in further with the time it took from being hit until it hit the roof; since it clearly deflected downward, it hadn't yet reached the top of its trajectory. If you considered that time as the time to reach the apex and it'd still be calculated to clear the wall, then it definitely would have gone over had it not hit the obstruction.

It would also help to know the height of that part of the roof, and the spin direction, angle, and RPM of the batted ball.

None of this changes the rules at the stadium, but it does show that A) the rule as-written is demonstrably dumb, and B) Statcast showing the distance hit based on where it was caught (325ft?) is also super dumb.

And about the erroneous Statcast 325ft "projection":

I strongly suspect that in the moment they didn't calculate HR distance at all, because why would they when the ball was caught in fair territory? In any normal circumstance it's categorically NOT a HR because of the simple fact of where it was caught. Just think of the logic of it outside this freak occurrence: when would you ever do projected HR distance for a caught ball? Maybe in a HR robbery situation, but even then they usually just do "distance to the wall" plus some rough guess somewhere between the outfielder's arm length and 1.5x the height of the wall at that location, depending on the trajectory.

Continued:

[People are] assuming they even did any math vs just reporting the distance at which the catch was made, because under any normal circumstance you don't need to calculate a projected HR distance for a caught ball. It's faster and easier to just put an IF-THEN statement in there that grabs the catch distance than to always be calculating trajectories for batted balls that you already know where they landed.

Uncritically repeating what Statcast says isn't "science".

[u/Zkmc → u/Imaginary_View_1956]

Topspin at that angle is pretty much impossible.

[u/National-Slip-845 → u/RythN3L]

lol I’m a dodger fan as well and I hope you guys die again. Machado shouldn’t be allowed to play in the league.

[u/Linksl1]

All I can say is the Baseball Gods are fickle.

Go get em tomorrow. LFGSD!!!

[u/Jazullo913]

So fucking pissed. That was a HR in any other stadium without a roof

[u/DemandNew4547 → u/Jazullo913]

Statcast shows it’s only a homer in the Astros stadium. Not sure what ur talking about

[u/Nerd4funNprofit → u/DemandNew4547]

Statcast is wrong. Ctrl+F my username in this thread for that calcs, but TL;DR that ball would have gone 370-380ft unobstructed.

[u/Own_Performance271]

In all seriousness, with the amount technology they have nowadays, why couldn't the MLB just ask they're endorsed statcast Google Gemini bullshit what they trajectory could've been and rule it a homerun as it would've been in every other park or a dead ball.

That was bullshit.

[u/BeepBoopAnv → u/[deleted]]

The statcast screenshot, if you read it (which you obviously can’t) said it’s not a home run based on the hit distance of 325… where it was caught. The ball was still going up until it hit the roof (also obvious) and came down early because of it. The hit was going to be a home run except the stadium has a “no home runs too big!” baby rule.

In all seriousness, this is the kind of shit level analysis that I expect from dodgers fans, and don’t come back to our sub.

[u/Agitated_Ad1259 → u/Own_Performance271]

You do understand stat cast indicated it was 325 feet which is short of the wall right? Not saying it was only going that far but that is short

[u/Barr_cudas → u/Agitated_Ad1259]

That’s where the ball was caught

Take away the impediment - distance is estimated at 365’

[u/Agitated_Ad1259 → u/Barr_cudas]

It’s like yall missed the point. Stat cast indicates 325 no way it was going 325 so how can we trust stat cast?

[u/Barr_cudas → u/Agitated_Ad1259]

It’s like we don’t comprehend that SC reports the 325 as the distance when Churio caught the ball - obviously short of the 342

Removing the impediment and calculating LA, EV, height and distance of impact (ball was not at apex) - the rough calculation is a median 365’

And spin has not even taken account into this equation.

So, because a HR has never been recorded above 46* LA at AFF, doesn’t equate to impossibility.

[u/Own_Performance271 → u/[deleted]]

That would've been on the 3rd deck of the Western supply building in Petco tf is lmfaooo

[u/Naive_Inspector4506 → u/[deleted]]

Stat cast uses where the ball landed after it hit the roof, dumbass

[u/Marble___ → u/Own_Performance271]

stat cast says this was an out so idk chief

[u/LoyalToSDSoil]

If they lived in an actual inhabitable place like we do, that roof is open and we win.

[u/Barr_cudas → u/LoyalToSDSoil]

MLB dictated the roof closed

[u/killedinfluence → u/LoyalToSDSoil]

We know the difference between habitable and inhabitable over here that’s why we built the roof wit yo cheap ahh

[u/Barr_cudas → u/killedinfluence]

I think your squeakers went bad - or it’s the bitter beer talking…

[u/BoomhauerSRT4]

Bro ☠️

[u/Beautiful_Soil_4420]

I don’t even care about who wins or loses this series but make the roof 1000 foot high or whatever you have to do to eliminate what happened today. If you can’t do that play the game outside. Absolutely insane that in the year 2026 they build all these billion dollar indoor stadiums and they can’t figure this out.

[u/WitlessWalrus]

Even my NYC born and raised partner is yelling this was BS

[u/ravenecw2]

Baseball should ban roofs

[u/fiftiethcow → u/ravenecw2]

MLB is the one that forces Milwaukee to keep the roof closed for playoff games. Its weird and I dont know the reasoning, but its not the Brewers decision in the playoffs

[u/wazzledudes → u/fiftiethcow]

Why was it open today

[u/Nerd4funNprofit → u/[deleted]]

"Even playing field" = "50ft penalty for hitting the ball harder than we could" 😂

[u/furiousrodbader]

somebody needs to dump Gatorade on the roof, mfer won the game!

[u/Automatic_Bar_9309]

Got robbed by a roof!

[u/NewtpwnianFluid]

I 100% accept it was the correct ruling. I am still genuinely shocked THAT was the particular ground rule for a situation like that

[u/h20verdrive → u/NewtpwnianFluid]

IKR? So many front-of-the-class types come out of nowhere on plays like this, pointing to the rules. We get its the rule, but its a bullshit rule and needs changing.

[u/Secure-Platypus9457]

Downvote if you want - I’m annoyed as fuck the way the roof made that decision, but the Pads put Miz out in four, gave up a couple of HRs for three total, we “lost” 2-3 against the team with the best record in baseball. We’ve still got the attitude (especially now), and the depth to beat the Brewers. Basically, they put up the best they had and only won by one, and had architecture not decided to intervene, we’d have probably taken out their best, tonight. We out-hit them, and sans a stupid errant throw by a fucking pitcher, out-played them in every other aspect - even getting drilled in the nutsack, both literally and figuratively! We swept them in Petco before, and if we just get one, they come home, again.

I’m not an optimist, normally. My AL team is the A’s, for fucking fuck’s sake!! But, the Padres are the better team. I think we got this.

Edited: spell chekerection

[u/B1GP0PPA82 → u/Secure-Platypus9457]

I agree. Padres in 4. LFGSD.

[u/Secure-Platypus9457 → u/B1GP0PPA82]

Thanks! Glad I’m not alone!!

[u/Barr_cudas → u/Secure-Platypus9457]

We also need to capitalize on not stranding runners - 12 seems like a slipped opportunity to change the game leverage

[u/captainhamption → u/Secure-Platypus9457]

Facts. This is the Padres series to win or lose. Milwaulkee won't beat us, we'll beat ourselves.

[u/dragon3234]

Where the Major League "too high" comes into play. Any other park outside that is an automatic home run.

[u/Mind_of_the_Ancients]

LOL

[u/leiawars]

Their MVP

[u/TheAvantGardeners]

Brewers have their own version of the Marine Layer

[u/Outrageous-Candy-576]

fuckass ballpark bro

[u/Whit3Ch0colat3]

actual bullshit. imagine having a roof on a baseball stadium so dumb

[u/Whit3Ch0colat3 → u/[deleted]]

wrigley field is an iconic baseball stadium. this piece of trash stadium is not a baseball stadium

[u/brookinator]

LOL thanks for bringing joy to that BS play

[u/housemoneyrocketship]

Open the damn roof tomorrow.

[u/Unlikely-Post-4063 → u/housemoneyrocketship]

There was rain in the forecast in Milwaukee last night; it takes a pretty significant amount of time to open and close the roof, so they have to make that determination prior to the game. MLB controls the roof in the postseason and that’s the determination they made

[u/Nexus0919]

Ty France still the man and will be the difference in tonight's game 2.

[u/KERMIT_THE_ORC]

That ball was ticketed for the seats

[u/Helpful_Teaching_470]

Game over. Oh well. We play again today. No excuses. LFGSD . Let’s tie this series and take it back to Diego. 🤎💛

[u/kingcheeta7]

The Padres won that game

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[u/henbutton]

Man I think it would’ve been out but this title sure would feel better if the boys had converted more RISP

[u/SqueakyTuna52]

Per Baseball Savant’s Launch Angle/Exit Velocity spray chart visualizer, there have been 28 balls in play with a 49 degree launch angle and 105 MPH exit velocity since 2016. Only 1 has resulted in a hit, which was a double down the right field line. 

If we were to round up, since France was credited with 105.3 mph, the 49 degree / 106 mph balls fare a little better, at 3/15 with a HR, 3B, and 2B. 

Still, combining those two gives 4/43 with a 2.3% HR%. Hard to really say France was “robbed” or that he should be credited with a home run. At minimum, France wasn’t as unlucky as the many batters who launch fly balls at Wrigley that get knocked down by the wind. 

[u/YesterdayExtra9310]

Should’ve been a foul

[u/gobears81]

Finally a post that pokes fun at their ridiculous stadium.

[u/cattycat_1995]

That roof is the tallest roof in the MLB so that Padres player hit must have been that damn high to hit the top. Amazing play by him that got screwed over by the environment

[u/seazonedsaltdog → u/[deleted]]

Only booing Machado

[u/CPriceRun86 → u/[deleted]]

Machado tried to injure the Brewer's Jesus Aguilar by spiking him at 1st when Machado still played for the Dodgers, that's all the booing you heard. Lot of historical context

[u/Jeffwallace619]

They knew what they were doing when they shut thay piece of shit. They are 28th in hr, have little pop on their team. Shutting that could only hurt us if it was to come in play. MLB needs to get there shit together. You better damn well have better rules on place for this bs

[u/Doucejj → u/Jeffwallace619]

Iirc MLB and the broadcast partners decides if the roof is open or closed during playoff games. Brewers have no say. It was also misty and raining.

So its not like this was a strategic move

[u/414works → u/Jeffwallace619]

There are rules in place for this, American family field has published ground rules and it was called correctly. And MLB dictates roof open/close during the playoffs. And it was actively raining.

[u/sportsfan510]

It sucks but the roof didn’t leave 12 guys on base. Could have cashed in sooner. Bounce back tomorrow!

[u/CJDistasio]

The 10th man

[u/GoldCareer6801]

Savanah Banana Series

[u/Padres_Guy2765]

[u/mikeyfornia1]

The curse of Bud Selig strikes again.

[u/StretchBetter8178]

I feel like the Brewers vans need to wear a jacket and just leave the roof open, especially in playoff games

[u/THEONETHEONLYmoron]

Dude we had so many opportunities to score we can not be blaming the roof

[u/GeneSmart2881]

The rules SHOULD NOT be like that.

[u/Euphoric_Taco138]

Losers always complaining about something

[u/Booch5]

Would've been a HR in 1 park keep crying 2-0😂🫡

[u/Delicious-End8023]

Is the roof bouncing rule implemented all season? Or just post season mlb rules? Just wonder how many other teams this happened to all season if not.

Would the Padres have known ahead of time that this could potentially happen? I'm just wondering why everyone was shocked if this is a known (bullshit) "rule" that can happen at their home games.

[u/Doucejj → u/Delicious-End8023]

The stadium has been open 25 years, and iirc, this has only happened one other time in the stadium history.

And they knew the rule. When the teams exchange lineups, umps tell the managers the rules and specific quirks of the stadium they're playing in

[u/h20verdrive → u/Doucejj]

Sure but the rule sucks, I assume you agree.

[u/enjoys_excel → u/Delicious-End8023]

It’s implemented year round. The difference is the MLB requested the Brewers to keep the roof closed even with nice weather. All managers are aware of the rules at American Family and were reminded again before the game (Padres manager said so after the game). You can blame anyone you want, but MLB is to blame, not the Brewers.

[u/Barr_cudas → u/enjoys_excel]

Actually - I blame the stadium designer

[u/Delicious-End8023 → u/enjoys_excel]

For sure, thank you. I didn't know that the roof could be opened and closed.

[u/enjoys_excel → u/Delicious-End8023]

Yup, one of the few MLB parks that can open and close. Mainly so games don’t get rained out, but also Wisconsin winters and snow can fan into April and October.

[u/Sharp-Ad-9221 → u/[deleted]]

“Last night (October 3, 2026), Milwaukee experienced lingering light rain and overcast skies that cleared up by midnight, with temperatures dropping to a low of around 41°F to 44°F.”

[u/ToomanyWoos → u/[deleted]]

Quit your crying

[u/isunktheship → u/[deleted]]

Shootin for a bootin, cheese head

[u/jrglpfm → u/[deleted]]

Stupid rule for a stupid place with stupid weather. If you can't play outside, you shouldn't be allowed to host playoff games. 😂

[u/foreverpeppered]

It’s insane that people don’t know the difference between a roof and a ceiling

[u/chucknorris10101]

The only reason people are upset this much is because a few chucklefucks in the booth who have no concept of ground rules made some speculations live on air while it was still in doubt. If the Padres team actually thought it could’ve been a homer that would have been the review or we would have seen a lot more pissed off coaching staff on the field

[u/WarioFan76 → u/[deleted]]

Nice use of the Cryin' Commies...

[u/redvsbluewarthog]

Poor losers