r/CHICubs • u/swishmon Baseball is better with Pat Hughes • 2d ago
[Bastian] 'He is the Chicago Cubs': Happ reflects on career after what may have been last game with team
https://www.mlb.com/news/ian-happ-talks-cubs-tenure-set-to-enter-free-agency59
u/Tom_Cruises_Uterus Santo 2d ago
I was really excited in 2017 when he came up. I think he handled being sent down really well too. He's a grinder. I will always have a place in my heart for someone that will put in the work and be a team player
To me, he's been in a way this indirect link to the WS team. I would hate to lose him. As a lot of people have said, I'd be fine with a team friendly contract. I'd go with a 2 year with a 3rd year as a team option.
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u/CubsEnjoyer 2d ago
Happer has cubbie for life status no matter if he's going to continue with the cubs or if he's going to be playing with another org.
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u/shiloh88 Helmet Hands 1d ago
If he comes back, I'd probably want to be in the conforto role and commit to left handed hitting.
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u/blyzo Chicago Cubs 2d ago
His down year this year he still put up almost 3 WAR. Probably going to get his 4th straight Gold Glove in Left Field.
If he would do like 3/50 I would definitely resign him. I think he'll probably get better offers but I dunno. Probably the most underrated OF in baseball.
Plus he's just a great all around dude.
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u/chrisGNR Chicago Dubs 1d ago
Yup. And 107 wRC+ on a down year, which is above league average. And, for example, much better than Kyle Tucker’s 2026.
But if you look at just his PAs batting left, Happ had an .809 OPS, 125 wRC+. His struggles against righties this year brought down his overall numbers. Career, he’s much closer to league average from the right.
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u/AdditionalNewt4762 Chicago Cubs 2d ago
He is literally everything you could ask for. Shows up game after game. Puts up solid ass numbers(a bit down this yr maybe), plays GG defensive every yr. Interacts w/fans on a personal level. Dude is truly an all time Cub great.
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u/Margoth_Rising 1d ago
You could nitpick and find some stats that are down but overall it was a average year for Happ. Not really up or down just average. Nothing really sticks out to me other than career high in SO.
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u/fastassbluegras 1d ago
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u/Margoth_Rising 1d ago
I was responding to Happ having below average year for him. If Happ is above/below average league hitter is another conversation entirely.
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u/epilepticninja Chicago Cubs 1d ago
Him and seuya are both rock stars. There are no upgrades available fir L or R field. Y'know go get some some pitching Jed
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u/Glittering-Local-147 1d ago
Great dude, 0 clutch
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u/chrisGNR Chicago Dubs 1d ago
Career with bases loaded: .250/.365/.441.
Career late & close (baseball-ref) .238/.327/.460.
Career High leverage (Fangraphs): 135 wRC+
Career w/RISP (Fangraphs) 119 wRC+.
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u/Glittering-Local-147 1d ago
0.193 with RISP this year
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u/chrisGNR Chicago Dubs 1d ago
Right. But you said zero clutch. Down year in 2026. Yet still 99 wRC+ with RISP, so just about league average. 124 wRC+ with RISP batting left.
Batting from the right side was awful this season and dragged his overall numbers down much more than usual.
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u/Wrath0920 1d ago
I don’t get the deep rooted love for the guy. I get that he was a great teammate and that for sure has value, he played excellent defense, also an asset. But he was not and never was a star. He never was a a stud who lead the team to success on the field. Actually, it was other players who had to make up for Happ’s lack of production. I’m not saying he was detrimental to winning games, but I also dont think he is not easily replaced in the production category. They need more from a corner OF spot than he is capable of giving.
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u/Hurm 1d ago
You don't understand people liking a guy fir being a good person?
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u/theporter75 1d ago
Agree, I despise Happ and Shaw for very different reasons, one because he sucks at the plate the other because he sucks as a human.
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u/I-I_I-I_I-I_l-l 1d ago
Yep. Also, I don't get why people act like him being good only against righties is a good thing. He's above average at best when you carve off half of his stats.
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u/dilapidated_wookiee Chicago Cubs 1d ago
Above average bat with great defense is a valuable player lol you can't have 9 PCA's out there
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u/I-I_I-I_I-I_l-l 1d ago
103 OPS+. “Above average” is pushing it.
His bat is worse than the two guys behind him: Taylor and Conforto.
He has blocked our OF prospects for years.
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u/dilapidated_wookiee Chicago Cubs 1d ago
As a lefty he is considerably above average and he has not blocked anyone of merit lol
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u/I-I_I-I_I-I_l-l 1d ago
If you have to carve off half of his stats to make him look good I think that proves my point
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u/JZobel El Mago 1d ago
lol blocked all our outfield prospects for years…if only we’d been playing Canario, Velazquez, Caissie, Alcantara this whole time. None of em have done jack shit
Taylor and Conforto have good numbers because they’re strictly platoon. If they had as many ABs as Happ, they’d struggle
You people just want a shiny new toy you can delusionally map any ceiling you want onto because a guy who’s steady every year but not a star is too boring for you
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u/Wrath0920 1d ago
If those are the only options, sure, gimme Happ. Ever hear of free agency? Trades?
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u/I-I_I-I_I-I_l-l 1d ago
Are you being serious? Cassie just had a better first year than PCA did
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u/JZobel El Mago 9h ago edited 9h ago
Negative WAR, he sucked for the most part. I expect the bat to get better as his career goes on, but he’s a defensive liability and has big K problems. He would’ve been public enemy #1 for whiny cubs fans if he was playing everyday for us. Not even remotely close to the player Happ is at this point
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u/JZobel El Mago 1d ago
This mindset is part of what sucks about sports fans a lot of the time. As if the only player you could ever appreciate or love has to be a superstar. Happ has been grinding for this team and this city for a decade, always been a productive player every year, always been a professional. That’s worth appreciating.
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u/chrisGNR Chicago Dubs 1d ago
You don’t understand how people can love a player who’s not Aaron Judge-levels of elite? Really?
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u/Wrath0920 1d ago
Did I mention AJ at all? Wow talk about grasping for straws. Happ is a decent player. That’s all he is, in terms of production.
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u/chrisGNR Chicago Dubs 1d ago
It was implied. You said he was never a star. So I assume you’re talking about a top 10 player in baseball. Like an Aaron Judge. Pete Crow-Armstrong, etc. Happ has certainly been a perennial top OF in baseball.
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u/Wrath0920 1d ago
He has NEVER been a perennial top OF, lol. He’s been a great defensive player. Solid guy. He has made one all star team. He’s a nice player. “Perennial top” implies something he never has delivered.
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u/Yetis22 1d ago
I love Happ. Just an easily likable dude.
I could see him coming back next year at a team deal. But I also think he’s going to explore his options because of the fact that he doesn’t want to platoon. Which I think if he came back, he’d only play majority vs righties.
I could see a lot of teams interested in him to. Such as a team like the Whitesox. Veteran presence. Doesn’t have to uproot. Goes to a team on the rise. OR (gross) LAD. Imagine Happ hitting 6 to 9 in that lineup. I think the biggest problem ever with the cubs is Happ was always hitting 1-5. If you put him a little lower and he is the 3 outcome hitter, I think he would be elite in a lineup like LAD.
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u/MithrandirHabibi 2d ago
He’s been a solid cub, but this is major hyperbole
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u/lykathea2 Bae 2d ago
I think for a lot of newer fans post 2018 or so, Ian is that guy for them. I don't cherish him as much as the 2015 and 2016 teams or Rizzo or MVP KB or Javy or even Schwarber for coming back from injury to play in the world series. Even for modern guys hes not PCA, Nico, Shota or Seiya in terms of entertaining me. He has great stats and moments and had a solid career, but nothing like 2015-16.
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u/z_o_i_n_k_z Stupid Sexy Rizzo 2d ago
I love Ian but I agree.
Rizzo was the Cubs and they traded him away for scraps.
I still love the Cubs, but I’ll never love a team like I did the core of that 2015-2016 Cubs run. It hasn’t felt the same for me since the deadline where they gutted the whole team.
This year’s group, despite all the pitching woes, was the closest feeling I’ve had to that team.
But that’s probably just because of PCA lol
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u/atooraya Will be triggered if downvoted 2d ago
Javy was our PCA during that run. Rizzo was what Ian Happ may be to some because Rizzo was the first piece for Theo Epstein to rebuild the Cubs.
That team also felt so good because the pitching was so damn good. I wish I could feel as good about a trade deadline as I did when we got Chapman.
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u/SoupAlternative1 1d ago
Dont even put Happ in the same sentence as Rizzo. Happ is a poor man's Rizzo if anything
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u/OpportunityOk5362 2d ago
I’ll be sad to see him go play elsewhere. Hopefully not the reds. He’s also been the one player who’s been in the lineup every season since 2018 when we started to go cold as an team at the end of the season. I’m not saying there’s any correlation, but it’s best for everyone involved to try something new.
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u/CarlySimonSays Let's play two 1d ago
I mean, if he goes anywhere, I kinda hope it's the Reds or the Pirates. I think he'd do well on both of those teams, even if I won't like facing him there, lol.
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u/EmmThem 1d ago
I don’t think we should let him walk, personally. I don’t think he’ll be crazy expensive, he was a big part of statistically the best defense ever. We need to worry about keeping what we have on the field and worrying about pitching. Unless there’s an obvious upgrade available, I don’t see how letting him go helps the Cubs.
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u/CarlySimonSays Let's play two 1d ago
I agree, I don't see how we get a left-fielder just half as good as he is, for a ton less money than he's likely to ask for. The man's arm is worth it.
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u/Clear-Cut-4398 1d ago
Happ will sign a team friendly contract. Look at the list of available Free Agents next year. Seiya is top dog….
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u/pisaudapur Arr-Field 1d ago
wow, reading his 3-year contract get announced in 2024 alongside Nico felt like it happened yesterday and now it's here
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u/chrisGNR Chicago Dubs 1d ago
Bring Happ back. He’s the type of player I want to root for on my team.
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u/WhatsupDoc35 1d ago
I really love Happer and I agree he is the type of player you want to root for. He has had a great run for the Cubs. Not sure he is right for this team in the future unless he will take a team-friendly deal and is willing to platoon.
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u/BlindLantern 1d ago
Why couldn’t we sign him again for a few more years?
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u/fastassbluegras 1d ago
Bottom 10% for strikeouts. You want that back?
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u/NUMBNUTZ42069 Lester 1d ago
Damn Sox should drop Murakami
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u/JF1449 1d ago
Insanely stupid comment, Munetaka hit 35 homers this year
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u/NUMBNUTZ42069 Lester 1d ago
He’s bottom 10% for strikeouts and hit .207.
He’s a great player. I was making a joke.
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u/BlindLantern 1d ago
I like a heart and soul guy. I think he played well enough for a reasonable deal.
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u/Old_General_6741 Chicago Cubs/Canada 1d ago
Sign him. He is a good teammate. He may not be a star but in my opinion he is still great.
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u/ItsGonnaBeAToughPlay 2d ago
My heart and brain are so split on this. If we won it all next year, it would really suck to see his Cubs career bookended by two World Series he wasn't a part of.
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u/gmoney32211 1d ago
We arent winning it all with cheapass Ricketts anytime soon. He got his wallet out for a onetime ride in ‘16, happy for that but zero indication of effort going forward
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u/RunAwayBeerTruk 1d ago
Ian Happ is…ok. Not bad not great just okay. Kind of like the Cubs, just okay.
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u/DJaySteff 1d ago edited 1d ago
You guys are really weird with this dude. He played for a long time here…that’s really it.
Hes not very good. Can’t hit and is slow in the outfield, don’t really care if he’s a gold glover.
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u/NUMBNUTZ42069 Lester 1d ago
I think acting like he is bad is just as weird as the people who think he’s great.
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u/DJaySteff 1d ago
There needs to be a middle ground for sure. I’ll agree.
I don’t understand the attachment to him as a player. Maybe it’s the younger fans?
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u/NUMBNUTZ42069 Lester 1d ago
I’m not a younger fan. I like Happ because he’s been on the team for a decade and is pretty drama free and consistent year in and year out. I’m also not someone begging the Cubs to de sign him. But he was here long enough to be remembered fondly and they will so ceremonies and video montages when he returns and probably be in the a cubs hall of fame when he retires
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u/DJaySteff 1d ago
Why do you feel he is a Cubs hall of famer? Just because his tenure here? That’s where I’m confused.
Is Alfonso Soriano a Cubs HOFer to you?
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u/chrisGNR Chicago Dubs 1d ago
Happ has better numbers in his career than Soriano had as a Cub. But also, there’s a difference when a dude is drafted by the team and has played every single game as a pro for the same team.
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u/WhatsupDoc35 1d ago
He was just voted in by the fans to the 150 Anniversary roster. That say a lot to me.
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u/NUMBNUTZ42069 Lester 1d ago edited 1d ago
A decade and he’s top ten (jk he’s 11th) in home runs all time. The organization loves him and included him on the 150 year team
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u/chrisGNR Chicago Dubs 1d ago
I’m in my 40s and he’s my favorite Cub right now. But I’ve actually liked this core group a lot (Dansby, Nico, Happ, Seiya, and now Pete).
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u/mitchellcronkin 2d ago
I love Ian Happ in my bones. Whatever happens, I support him. Good man. Good teammate, Good voice for players. Thoughtful always. Hitting sometimes. Getting on base as much as anyone. That’s my dude. He’s been a great Cub.