r/CAStateWorkers • u/Res_judipapa • 1d ago
General Discussion Solvang City union rejects three year contract for 6%, 5%, 4% COL increases
Three weeks of strikes and sticking to their guns for 6/6/6. I don’t know where they stand in general on competitiveness in pay/benefits with other public agencies. But it does make me reflect on the typical ~2.5% annual COL I usually see at the state as inflation and RTO curb stomp those increases.
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u/Prestigious-Tiger697 1d ago
Deng, they were offered in one year what we got over 3 years…. then another 9% on top. That much of a raise would take the state 8 years to reach.
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u/_SpyriusDroid_ 1d ago
That’s just not true. We received 9% over the last three years (not counting 26-27 which is currently on the table). 15% over three years is what we got over five years. Yeah, it’s better than what CalHR is offering now, but no need to make numbers up to prove the point.
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u/No-Ad4706 22h ago
We got 6% over the last 3 years with 3% owed. So the numbers are correct. Also there will not be retro for the time the 3% was delayed. Also the State will try to use that 3% as part of negotiations in the future. So if we want 7% for 27-28, the State will try to say 3(owed)+4=7%, not 3%(owed)+7=10%. So their numbers are correct, we did not receive the 9% you stated. Until it is on my paystub it is not received.
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u/_SpyriusDroid_ 20h ago
We received 9%. 3% each year for 23/24, 24/25, and 25/26. You can’t count 26/27 while it’s being actively bargained for.
Also, the union is asking for 7% in 26/27. That will supersede the previous side letter. It doesn’t compound to 10%.
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u/Demi_Bob 19h ago
9% was negotiated, not received.
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u/_SpyriusDroid_ 19h ago
It was absolutely received.
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u/Demi_Bob 19h ago
So we're getting paid that last 3% right now?
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u/_SpyriusDroid_ 19h ago
Yes. The side letter maintained our 25/26 GSI. They then did PLP and OPEB shenanigans as an accounting trick for the budget, but we received the raise.
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u/No-Ad4706 14h ago
Nope!
Where did the postponed 3% come from? The answer is 25/26. Therefore only 23/24 and 24/25 have been received.
Where did you see the union state that the 7% for next year includes the 3% from 25/26?
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u/_SpyriusDroid_ 14h ago
26/27 is the deferred GSI (to 27/28), and that’s being actively bargained, so it could change. We received 3% in 23/24, 24/25, and 25/26.
Your own post brought up 10% in some weird CalHR mindset hypothetical. I never mentioned it except in response to you. The union is asking for 7% in 26/27, 7% in 27/28, and 6% in 28/29. There’s no reason to consider the 26/27 deferral because the union is trying to reach an agreement that will supersede it.
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u/Prestigious-Tiger697 18h ago
BU 6 agreement...
General Salary Adjustment
• Effective July 1, 2025, all Bargaining Unit (BU) 6 classifications shall receive a general salary increase of three percent (3%).
• Effective July 1, 2027, all BU 6 classifications shall receive a general salary increase of three percent (3%).
• In order to address budget short falls, the parties agreed to a Personal Leave Program 2025 (PLP 2025) located in Sideletter #11. PLP 2025 Program5
u/Prestigious-Tiger697 22h ago
Our latest 3 year contract we got 2x 3% raises. So yes, 6% over 3 years. not made up. I’m BU 6, but I had thought it was the same for all… maybe not?
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u/Prestigious-Tiger697 19h ago edited 18h ago
So I'm making numbers up? That's low key offensive of you
BU 6 agreement...
General Salary Adjustment
• Effective July 1, 2025, all Bargaining Unit (BU) 6 classifications shall receive a general salary increase of three percent (3%).
• Effective July 1, 2027, all BU 6 classifications shall receive a general salary increase of three percent (3%).
• In order to address budget short falls, the parties agreed to a Personal Leave Program 2025 (PLP 2025) located in Sideletter #11. PLP 2025 Program(Sideletter #11)
• Effective with the July 2025 pay period through the June 2027 pay period.
• Three percent (3%) pay reduction for all BU 6 employees.
• 5 hours credited monthly for the PLP 2025 ProgramSo by all means, BU 6 negotiated a 6% raise for a 3 year period. However, the first 2 years we actually saw a decrease in our pay... because $1,000 +3% = $1,030 then $1,030 - 3% = $999.10.
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u/_SpyriusDroid_ 18h ago
You didn’t mention that you were BU 6 in your original comment and I’m not familiar with your contract. Most people here are SEIU 1000, and that’s generally the union with the most active discussion because of the current bargaining and strike vote. I don’t think anyone would assume you’re talking about BU 6 without you first mentioning it.
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u/ComprehensiveTea5407 18h ago
I wouldnt say most. There is a lot of diversity. I think a more true statement is that most people assume you are in the same BU as they are
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u/_SpyriusDroid_ 18h ago
I mean, it’s just a numbers game. SEIU is the largest union, it’s four times bigger than CCPOA, so it’s a fair assumption. Still, my bad for assuming you were in the same union. Every contract is different.
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u/Happy-Relation-2959 1d ago
the state will lose MILLIONS of dollars and California would shut down if strike goes out to 3 weeks
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u/CaliLurker26 1d ago
Solving makes all their money in tourism ! And it’s an expensive area to live. The irony North County Santa Barbara is very conservative and and hate unions.
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u/coldbrains 1d ago
Damn, this is nuts. Even the folks in Solvang can’t catch a fucking break. Solidarity with our city worker siblings. Let this be a lesson to us as well…we can and will strike when necessary
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u/danknessoverlord 1d ago
75% of their municipal workers have been on strike for 3 weeks. That's massive. Tons of state workers beg every month to be paid even 1 day early to pay bills. We can't replicate their strike.
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u/perf1620 1d ago
The catch 22.
If you never make a stand eventually you crumble under the weight. It's only because low raises have been accepted over time that people are in this position to begin with. It's time to wake up.
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u/katmom1969 16h ago
I still make it to the end of the month because of my husband's I come, but we can't afford 3 weeks of me not getting paid without having to negotiate bills.
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u/Goodgulf42 15h ago
It's going to be rough if we go that long. Do you guys have equity in a home? A HELOC is a way better solution than running up credit cards and generally has a much lower interest rate than a personal loan.
That being said, our lawyer said it is pretty rare for something like this to go over 3 days. So I have sort of been imagining it going for 6 days as a likely worst case for us.
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u/No-Ad4706 13h ago
Then you are saying the contract that ended on 6/30/26 was the end of the side letter and the actual contract ended on 6/30/25???
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u/aja_ramirez 20h ago
Folks around here are concerned about potentially sticking for three days, never mind three weeks
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u/katmom1969 16h ago
I don't have savings for 3 weeks of not working. That's my concern. I'd have bills I can't cover.
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