r/Borderlands2 • u/Aggressive-Main7576 • 13h ago

🗞️ [ News ] Huge Thanks to the Modding Community

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I have to get this out.

I wanted to say a massive thanks to all these people who made a massive step to the BL2 Community.

The unthinkable happend to fast and we didnt even saw it coming.

To think something like this could happend was only a fake dream many years ago.

Theres even more coming like claptrap mod is right around the corner.

Of course the other modders deserve a thanks but i think we all can agree that this one is the Cherry.

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u/RalseitheFloofie 13h ago

Literally the product of YEARS of their hard work btw.

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u/Aggressive-Main7576 13h ago

I can’t really comprehend what’s happening. It’s still unbelievable that we got something like cryo or new characters into this „old“ game

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u/RalseitheFloofie 12h ago edited 12h ago

IF nothing else, bl2 players and the modders by proxy are STUBBORN, this is a testimate to that.

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u/AngryBliki 10h ago

Yes, but no. It’s AI decompiling and other modding tools which allowed for this rapid progress in the last few weeks

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u/RalseitheFloofie 9h ago

For once it helped. Still though, this was in the works prior to ai's decompiling, doesn't lessen the product when we have the product

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u/AngryBliki 9h ago

Yeah. That’s my view as well. If it’s used correctly I have nothing against AI.

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u/RabbitMuch8217 9h ago

Literally AI

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u/UberMorpth 9h ago

As mentioned by a different person here: Far as we know AI was *only* used for decompiling, as for the hero mods themselves they seem to have no trace of AI code in them at all.

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u/55tumbl 7h ago edited 7h ago

In the Aurelia mod, the author acknowledge pretty explicitly that it's vibe coded ("Made by Grim Reader and Claude (Anthropic's AI). Grim Reader directed it, made the calls and play-tested it; Claude did the research and wrote the converter and the mod. Built on the bl-sdk team's willow2-mod-manager."). I imagine it's the same for the others, even if they don't disclose. The authors of these mods also don't seem to have made any BL mods before. Used to be that a character mod was not really possible for anyone who hasn't spent a year or more making smaller mods.

Still, it's pretty cool. I'm not trying to criticize.

The years of hard work are real, but by other people (notably apple and everyone who worked on the sdk).

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u/Scelusteach 8h ago

Ai was also used for reverse engineering. This is when ai is used to do something great other rhan produce mindless slop.

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u/RetroNutcase 12h ago

...How, how hard will it be to do the reverse? That is, get the BL2 squad into Pre sequel?

Hell, would it be at all possible to bring the original BL1 crew in? Because I would LOVE to bring out Moredecai to do some proper head-shotting sniper gameplay.

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u/Papaburk 12h ago

Project Moonshot is currently in development and will merge BL2 and TPS fully, so you’ll be able to just play both games at the same time.

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u/Handsome_Jack_Here 8h ago

Oh so like A Tale of Two Wastelands for Fallout 3 and New Vegas? Hell yeah

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u/Embarrassed-Ad230 11h ago

Can you send the link to this project, please? Google won't let me find it for some reason

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u/HoswaeDoolay 9h ago

This would be so legendary

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u/RalseitheFloofie 12h ago

Well, people have ported the BL1 crew in before, and modded characters in general have been somewhat popular over the years.

I think the tools modders have access to in general have gotten stronger, so time will tell.

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u/Lucas_Ilario 12h ago

I wish gearbox would do the same thing Bethesda did and get mod support on consoles this is so cool

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u/Gendreau113 9h ago

I think the biggest problem is with how licensing and everything works. Since the game's been out for quite a while now it's kind of hard to go back and change how you want things to work

Any game from this point forward they're welcome to do whatever they want, but I think it's just harder since it's an old game. Not only that but as a business they need to make money... Borderlands 2 doesn't really make them any money anymore, not like releasing a new game does. So to spend all this time and money adding stuff to old games is just silly in their eyes unfortunately

Unless it's Valve. Valve loves its gamers

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u/TheMemeLord4816 5h ago

Remake BL2, call it Borderlands 2 Handsome Edition and put some QOL stuff and update the graphics and put in a Skyrim style mod menu and BOOM

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u/Gendreau113 5h ago

Now thats a idea that can work!

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u/1dollardadaxe 12h ago

BL2 was the peak of the franchise and Gearbox won't catch lightning like that ever again. There I said it, downvote away. God these pretzels suck

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u/AdmiralNeato 12h ago

It's true, but that just ain't what the post is about. We are commemorating the community's dedication not just to this game, but whether you believe it or not, the franchise as a whole. We all love this game and it goes without saying we all love what borderlands can be, otherwise we would not be taking another entry's content and reconstructing it from the ground up to breathe fresh life into this old but gold game, because that kind of commitment and passion is why the years after 2012 were some of our best gaming experiences

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u/1dollardadaxe 11h ago

Don't get me wrong I love how the BL2 community keeps this game alive. I still play on my PS3 from time to time. I'll never get the chance to play these modded versions since I don't play on PC. But seeing all the craziness that is BL2 staying alive is awesome

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u/RabbitMuch8217 9h ago

If it was to commemorate all Borderlands, BL1, 2 and TPS characters / maps would be ported on BL3

BL3 has better gameplay objectively. Athena, Lilith etc with slide, so many legendaries etc would be even more interesting. 

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u/1dollardadaxe 7h ago

I just had trouble getting past BL3 story. I get the juxtaposition of the streaming/influencer society, and kind of enjoyed the twists, but that last boss fight was pretty lame. Game play was fun and loved the Krieg DLC. Special place for him and Maya in my heart. I'm not crying, your crying

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u/Krisp_0 7h ago

enderkiller (the guy whos making the tps and bl2 ttw style mod) tried to do the project in bl3 but found out that bl3 has a hardcoded limitation to VH, you cant add more to the game, which is probably why bl3 never got dlc VH

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u/RalseitheFloofie 11h ago

While not my personal fave, Bl2 is by the majorities standards, the best in the borderlands series.

The fact people are willing to try so damn hard to make the TPS vault hunters work AND make new ones for it shows that wholeheartedly.

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u/6000lbs 7h ago

Who is gonna downvote you for having the coldest take since the ice age?

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u/stinkus_mcdiddle 11h ago

Pretty much everyone in this subreddit is going to agree with that sentiment

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u/bosnanic 9h ago

BL2 on BL3's engine would be a easy win for gearbox, therefore it will never happen.

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u/Cmoore1217 | Steam Player 12h ago

You guys know that meme of the swimming pool that jokes about stuff being forgotten with the drowning kid and then the skeleton dead at the bottom. Wilhelm is that skeleton.

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u/Pineapple_Sucks 12h ago

I remember hearing Wilhelm had issues but i dont know any of the specifics

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u/the3nd68 12h ago

So nisha still doesn't work with the other mods.

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u/nicknamesas 11h ago

So I'm not the only one having issues with getting her to work

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u/the3nd68 10h ago

Getting her to work is easy. But having all the TPS vault hunters active at the same time seems to be an issue.

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u/nicknamesas 10h ago

Mmmm thats probably it. I have athena on atm too

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u/the3nd68 10h ago

Yes. Nisha seems to be not compatable with the others yet. But it's gonna be awesome seeing 12 vault hunters in bl2 + the whole TPS game coming as dlc maps into bl2.

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u/nicknamesas 10h ago

As cool as that would be, using tps maps may cause legal issues

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u/the3nd68 10h ago

Might be ways around it. But we'll have to see. No matter I'm still exited for this.

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u/AussBear 6h ago

Not if they do something similar to what Tale of Two Wastelands does for Fallout 3/NV. Where they require you to own & have both games installed & then the mod takes what it needs during installation

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u/AnonyMouse3925 9h ago

I haven’t played her since Jack released but I have them both installed

(Strangely it allows me to use Nishas cosmetics on Jack. It looks so freaky)

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u/Rothenstien1 12h ago

I want so bad to get a computer just for this

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u/Big-Investigator1202 12h ago

I mean BL2 really doesnt take that much in terms of specs to run

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u/Rothenstien1 11h ago

The best i have currently is a galaxy s21, so i don't think I'm prepped for it quite yet.

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u/Commercial_Visit4584 12h ago

Fingers crossed we get a Wilhelm after Clappy to complete the squad

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u/Sweaty-Inevitable163 11h ago

Oh wow cool! Does cryo work too for baroness? What if we had a corrupted baroness that changed all her ice support to slag... Would be crazy

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u/AnonyMouse3925 9h ago

That would be cool as hell. But also I think Cryo is pretty much working as intended with Aurelia

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u/Alex_the_Mit 5h ago

Can these mods be used in archipelago?

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u/professorclueless 12h ago

How did you get Timothy and Athena working together? Last I checked(it's been a couple weeks) they had a file with the same name that sort of messed with it

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u/Aggressive-Main7576 12h ago

I installed a mod, startet the game, chose new game, restart game, install next mod and repeat :-)

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u/Bp820 11h ago

That's awesome! Athena will forever be my most favorite vault hunter, playing her through bl2 with maybe cryo effects and bleeding damage would be completely badass!!

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u/soundlesspanik 10h ago

How are voice the lines?

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u/AnonyMouse3925 9h ago

They are just as I remember from TPS. Somehow I’m getting nostalgia from a slightly newer game while playing the older one

Edit: you can change how much jack speaks with the mod. Options are ‘default’ ‘half as much’ ‘1/4 as much’ and ‘off’

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u/RalseitheFloofie 2h ago

Jack doesnt talk at all in dialog, athena will use maya's voice in dialog, but in terms of normal play you get the same voicelines for them in TPS gameplay (dunno about aurelia, but i would assume its a similar story with her).

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u/ididitforthemoney2 10h ago

this is so fucking cool

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u/Dreddlok1976 10h ago

No fucking way. Noice

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u/spiced-angel 10h ago

Does the mod work for Steam version or is this a separate process to play/download 🏴‍☠️?

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u/RogueVox3l 10h ago

Works with the steam version, it's a bit like the early days of modded Minecraft where you gotta install stuff directly to the files

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u/spiced-angel 9h ago

Thanks so some %appdata% throwback?

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u/AnonyMouse3925 9h ago

It’s been a while…. That’s not how it’s done anymore? 😭

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u/RogueVox3l 9h ago

Nowadays mod loaders like curse forge, modrinth, and prism do most of the work for you. Just load up the program and download whatever mods or mod packs and it installs it for you.

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u/RogueVox3l 9h ago

Don't forget to delete meta_inf

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u/Glaustin 9h ago

Is there anyone here that could help me install these mods? I am struggling beyond the jack one, Athena Nisha and Aurelia look fun and. I don’t know what I’m doing wrong

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u/Aggressive-Main7576 7h ago

For Aurelia, Jack, Athena: You have to have sdk and tps installed. Put the zip content into the bl2 directory, start game, activate mod, restart game and check new game character screen. Works like this with all three

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u/Aromaticrefrigarator 8h ago

Is it easy to download these mods?

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u/Aggressive-Main7576 7h ago

Yes, you only need sdk installed and drop the mods into the sdk mods folder like every other mod. Restart the game a few times and you are done

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u/Handsome_Jack_Here 8h ago

I've always dreamed of being able to play as Timothy outside of the Pre-Sequel, this is so cool.

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u/SlappingSalt 6h ago

I bet Jack's pissed seeing Timothy fight for Roland.

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u/DwemerSmith gubforger almighty 6h ago

i’ve seen a version of the athena mod that replaces flash freeze with a corrosion version. is there a version for cryo/regular tps version now?

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u/TheSophWalrus 5h ago

I'll do a playthrough as soon as the claptrap mod is finished, this is awesome!

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u/KainAbdala 4h ago

Can't wait to see custom VHs come to the game

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u/xDeviousDieselx 12h ago

So fucking cool, almost makes me actually want to play BL2 just to have more content to play these better vault hunters in

I’m dying to play Wilhelm and Jack for some reason I might boot up TPS for Wilhelm but both games are just so old now it’s gonna be hard for me to go back

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u/Clintaur 11h ago

Too* fast

See* it coming

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u/Aggressive-Main7576 11h ago

Not my first language as you can tell haha, thanks tho

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u/Clintaur 10h ago

Glad to help 🙏

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u/TheMemeLord4816 7h ago

FYI you are legally required to tell us what replaces Cryo for Aurelias skill tree

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u/DaddyBear2224 6h ago

https://giphy.com/gifs/baPIkfAo0Iv5K

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u/TheMemeLord4816 6h ago

Damn, TPS characters are far stronger than BL2 characters so I guess it balances out

You can also just not use the middle tree until you have to

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u/DaddyBear2224 6h ago

What balances out?

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u/TheMemeLord4816 5h ago

Cryo damage is an important part of aurelias kit but since the mod didn't replace the need for cryo damage it significantly weakens her middle skill tree

But since TPS characters are already strong it just balances her out to BL2 character strength

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u/DaddyBear2224 5h ago

The mod added cryo damage as well. So when you asked what replaces it I was stating that nothing replaces it because it's still there.

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u/TheMemeLord4816 5h ago

HOLY SHIT OH MY GOOOD

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u/DaddyBear2224 5h ago

You ok there friend?

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u/RyonHirasawa | Steam Player 12h ago

Question, what’s the possibility of bringing in BL3’s gunplay into BL2 or even TPS?

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u/TheBattlemanCZ 12h ago

basicaly almost zero, since the two engines are completly different

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u/RyonHirasawa | Steam Player 12h ago

I mean, can it at least be replicated?

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u/Sweaty-Inevitable163 11h ago

You would probably have better luck porting bl2 and TPS assets into 3 and runing it all there.

Trying 4 would be cool, but probably melt your pc

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u/AnonyMouse3925 9h ago

Gunplay? Hopefully 0

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u/the_mighty-chaddicus 4h ago

The guy making project moonshot has ported bl3 guns in, additionally there’s mods for sliding.

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u/RyonHirasawa | Steam Player 4h ago

BL3 sliding being in BL2 is what exactly prompted me to ask if the smooth gunplay and shooting can also be replicated

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u/zetadaemon Bl Modder 2h ago

well, what specifically do you mean by the gunplay? the way weapons handle? alt fire modes?

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u/RyonHirasawa | Steam Player 2h ago

The way weapons handle, yes

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u/zetadaemon Bl Modder 2h ago

Whats different about them to you? in bl2 you have a lot of freedom to tweak the stats, the main difference is you dont have seperate scales for horizontal and vertical kick

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u/RyonHirasawa | Steam Player 2h ago

Just wanted to see how different BL2 would feel with BL3~onward’s more straightforward way of handling how weapons and shooting works

Like the shooting is one of the best parts of BL3, whether it be the feedback from animations or the general way the guns behave in your hands

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u/SnooPeanuts2251 1h ago

You can emulate it (like what some AI-driven movement mods do), but it aint gonna be 1:1 copy, purely cause of a different engine that the BL3 runs on

And emulating it will require bunch of testings and fine tuning, something that even AI cannot really help with

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u/_Tidalwaves_ 8h ago

Normalize explaining posts

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u/MrAuster 8h ago

What's left to explain?

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u/_Tidalwaves_ 8h ago

Literally all of it? The only information given is that the unthinkable has happened.

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u/MrAuster 8h ago

Because it happened, they're porting characters from TPS to BL2

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u/Puzzled-Whole6485 | PC Player 7h ago

bro is allergic to reading and comprehending photos