r/technology • u/Miserable_Phase_2519 • 14h ago

Artificial Intelligence Florida woman used Claude as a diary, then Anthropic reported an entry to police

https://www.techspot.com/news/114091-florida-woman-used-claude-diary-anthropic-reported-shoot.html
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u/mediocre_remnants 14h ago

This is hilarious because when a murderer asked an AI to help plan the murder, everyone freaked out and said "why didn't they report this???"

When a lady is writing a diary with no intention of harming anyone, everyone freaks out and says "why are they reading her private stuff???"

You can't have both. You can't monitor someone's activity to make sure they're not planning a mass murder or terrorist attack while letting people who are doing creative writing exercises have a pass.

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u/PatchyWhiskers 14h ago

There’s no indication that she wasn’t planning to carry out her plan.

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u/Alternative-Soil2576 14h ago edited 14h ago

Why make a plan at all then?

Why did she get herself a new gun?

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u/youmightwanttosit 14h ago

Double negatives, they're tricky.

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u/Responsible-Tap-3748 13h ago

Those are different people getting outrages. Hope this helps.

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u/littleemp 14h ago

I don't know if I would label anything thrown into an AI blender as creative, but I get your point.

People just need to stop treating these things as friends or confidants; They are tools to which you are paying access to with your data.

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u/InfinitelyThirsting 13h ago

I don't want both. I want dangerous AI monitored, precisely for reasons like this.

No one invaded her privacy. She chose to use a chatbot that responds to her, that is not, by any stretch of the imagination, a diary.

Would you also sneer about privacy if someone was using the Staples helpbot to express their violent thoughts? Someone choosing to misuse a tool does not mean their privacy was violated.

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u/LiamJamIsMyNeesons 13h ago

This is hilarious because when a murderer asked an AI to help plan the murder, everyone freaked out and said "why didn't they report this???"

When? Just because some moron goes to "think of the children " doesn't mean the rest of should lose our rights to privacy 

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u/Ihcend 13h ago

How do you have the right to privacy on a model that you didn’t train, on an interface that you didn’t make, on model that you aren’t hosting? It’s called terms and conditions and you signed away your privacy when you ticked that box.

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u/Megneous 12h ago

Same reason you have a right to privacy when you use Microsoft Word. AI are tools that we use. And if we institute laws that give us privacy using them, then laws override ToS. ToS cannot break literal laws, as much as companies wish they could.

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u/Megneous 12h ago

This. I don't care if some terrorists commit terrorism. I am not in favor of curtailing important privacy rights because some idiots don't understand how dangerous it is to flirt with authoritarianism and a surveillance state.

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u/AutistcCuttlefish 13h ago

Goomba Fallacy at work right here.

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u/SamKhan23 11h ago

It really isn’t. People are nonsensical when it comes to privacy vs prevention

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u/Cronus6 8h ago

with no intention of harming anyone

From the article :

After deciding it was a credible threat

I'd say both Anthropic and the Sheriffs office both felt she had that intention.

Either way a judge will now sort it out.

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u/Jedbo75 14h ago

So the choice, then, is clearly to not monitor at all.

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u/nplus 14h ago

Look up Tumbler Ridge shooting. OpenAI was aware of the plan the teen made with ChatGPT, did nothing to alert authorities and a bunch of people died. There are a bunch of lawsuits against OpenAI now

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u/Jedbo75 14h ago

Lots of shootings and similar incidents could be prevented. In order for that to happen, though, we have to trade privacy and freedom for security, and that is always a raw deal.

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u/nplus 14h ago

Yep, and the big corporations won't want to be liable. If you want privacy, don't use cloud based AI services. As others have said, run it locally/offline.

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u/Then-Veterinarian432 14h ago

"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." - Benjamin Franklin

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u/nplus 13h ago

I hear you and this is also no different from Reddit, Google, Facebook, etc. they all work with law enforcement in various ways. I'm not saying it's right or wrong, but nobody should be surprised by AI providers doing the same.